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	<title>Comments on: Michele Bachmann: Granting a pardon to campaign donor and ex-con Petters associate Vennes is &#8216;good for society&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Why Michele Bachmann Must Never Be President: She&#8217;s Crazy! &#124; Veracity Stew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Michele Bachmann Must Never Be President: She&#8217;s Crazy! &#124; Veracity Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Crazy Shelly has some pretty strange friends and supporters: Bachmann was quick to try to distance herself from ex-con campaign contributor Frank Vennes Jr. when his alleged involvement in the multibillion-dollar Tom Petters financial fraud scandal became public recently. But she showed little hesitation in showering praise on the convicted money-launderer and cocaine-and-gun trafficker a year ago in her letter of recommendation to grant Vennes-who, along with his wife, is among the most generous individual donors to Bachmann&#8217;s campaigns-a presidential pardon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Crazy Shelly has some pretty strange friends and supporters: Bachmann was quick to try to distance herself from ex-con campaign contributor Frank Vennes Jr. when his alleged involvement in the multibillion-dollar Tom Petters financial fraud scandal became public recently. But she showed little hesitation in showering praise on the convicted money-launderer and cocaine-and-gun trafficker a year ago in her letter of recommendation to grant Vennes-who, along with his wife, is among the most generous individual donors to Bachmann&#8217;s campaigns-a presidential pardon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Venes is as crooked as Lombard St in San Francisco.  He knew exactly what he was doing.  I personally dealt with the man, he was trying to bankrupt me through litigation in Florida over a parcel of land next to his Merritt Island pad at the time.  In the end, I had to sell it to him because he would not let me build and the court was accommodating him.  I also left the area after that debacle.
The first conviction in 1987 was for small change, he now earned the privilege to be Bernie Maddoff&#039;s neighbor once the Feds are through with him.  Maybe that he will try to buy off Bernie&#039;s cell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Venes is as crooked as Lombard St in San Francisco.  He knew exactly what he was doing.  I personally dealt with the man, he was trying to bankrupt me through litigation in Florida over a parcel of land next to his Merritt Island pad at the time.  In the end, I had to sell it to him because he would not let me build and the court was accommodating him.  I also left the area after that debacle.<br />
The first conviction in 1987 was for small change, he now earned the privilege to be Bernie Maddoff&#8217;s neighbor once the Feds are through with him.  Maybe that he will try to buy off Bernie&#8217;s cell.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayers is indeed a non-issue- I assume from the reactions across the country that if those who think this IS an issue of substance had decided to pursue politics and community improvement as a career, and served on a charitable education reform board where you found someone else working whose views and past actions you didn&#039;t agree with, that you would say &quot;if THAT guy is helping kids than I WON&#039;T!&quot; 

If you are so concerned about un-American associates of the candidates, why don&#039;t you poke around a little into the Palins and the AIP?  You know, that little group of people who want &quot;the US out of Alaska,&quot; the one that Todd Palin belonged to for 7 years (I think he stopped paying dues in 2002), and the one which Sarah told, this past April, to &quot;keep up the good work.&quot;  That&#039;s on video too, btw.  These aren&#039;t tenuous connections to people who did un-American things 40 years ago, it&#039;s direct connections to people who proudly espouse un-American behavior, TODAY.  Talk about an appalling lack of curiosity by the media...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayers is indeed a non-issue- I assume from the reactions across the country that if those who think this IS an issue of substance had decided to pursue politics and community improvement as a career, and served on a charitable education reform board where you found someone else working whose views and past actions you didn&#8217;t agree with, that you would say &#8220;if THAT guy is helping kids than I WON&#8217;T!&#8221; </p>
<p>If you are so concerned about un-American associates of the candidates, why don&#8217;t you poke around a little into the Palins and the AIP?  You know, that little group of people who want &#8220;the US out of Alaska,&#8221; the one that Todd Palin belonged to for 7 years (I think he stopped paying dues in 2002), and the one which Sarah told, this past April, to &#8220;keep up the good work.&#8221;  That&#8217;s on video too, btw.  These aren&#8217;t tenuous connections to people who did un-American things 40 years ago, it&#8217;s direct connections to people who proudly espouse un-American behavior, TODAY.  Talk about an appalling lack of curiosity by the media&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ric</title>
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		<dc:creator>ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AYERS is a non-issue------Bachman learned from the master CROOK
John McCain and Charles Keating----&#039;HOW TO SWINDLE INNOCENT
SENIORS FROM THEIR LIFE SAVINGS AND PENSIONS&#039; 101.
That&#039;s about as far as McCain got with his education.
AND Bachman needs a history lesson as to why AMERICANS began to 
question OUR GOVERNMENT decades ago!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AYERS is a non-issue&#8212;&#8212;Bachman learned from the master CROOK<br />
John McCain and Charles Keating&#8212;-&#8217;HOW TO SWINDLE INNOCENT<br />
SENIORS FROM THEIR LIFE SAVINGS AND PENSIONS&#8217; 101.<br />
That&#8217;s about as far as McCain got with his education.<br />
AND Bachman needs a history lesson as to why AMERICANS began to<br />
question OUR GOVERNMENT decades ago!</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;Hey Nate, wasn’t Obama about 8 when that happened?&quot;&quot;

What does that have to do with anything?

Was he 8 when his political career was launched in the living room of an arrogant unrepentant terrorist?

Speaking of throwing people under the bus, Obama was quick to throw Acorn under the bus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Hey Nate, wasn’t Obama about 8 when that happened?&#8221;"</p>
<p>What does that have to do with anything?</p>
<p>Was he 8 when his political career was launched in the living room of an arrogant unrepentant terrorist?</p>
<p>Speaking of throwing people under the bus, Obama was quick to throw Acorn under the bus</p>
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		<title>By: DumpBachmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>DumpBachmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off the ALWAYS interesting DumpBachmannBlog Today...

&quot;DB reader Wellstone&#039;s Ghost left this comment:


Frank Vennes Jr: &quot; Knock Knock&quot;

Michele Bachmann: &quot;Who&#039;s There?&quot;

Frank: &quot;Michele, it&#039;s me Brother Frank Jr&quot;

Michele: &quot;Mr. Vennes, I am HOT for God&quot;

Frank: &quot;Michele, EVERYBODY knows that&quot;

Michele: &quot;I am also a foster mother of 23&quot;

Frank: &quot;Michele, why have you betrayed me?&quot;

MB: &quot;Did you bring me an offering?&quot;

FV: &quot;I brought you some pink gloves&quot;.

MB: &quot;Mmm, they do what they r supposed 2&quot;

FV: &quot;Michele why have you betrayed me?&quot;

MB: &quot;Pastor Quack says you are not a winner&quot;

FV: KNOCK KNOCK is anyone ELSE down there?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off the ALWAYS interesting DumpBachmannBlog Today&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;DB reader Wellstone&#8217;s Ghost left this comment:</p>
<p>Frank Vennes Jr: &#8221; Knock Knock&#8221;</p>
<p>Michele Bachmann: &#8220;Who&#8217;s There?&#8221;</p>
<p>Frank: &#8220;Michele, it&#8217;s me Brother Frank Jr&#8221;</p>
<p>Michele: &#8220;Mr. Vennes, I am HOT for God&#8221;</p>
<p>Frank: &#8220;Michele, EVERYBODY knows that&#8221;</p>
<p>Michele: &#8220;I am also a foster mother of 23&#8243;</p>
<p>Frank: &#8220;Michele, why have you betrayed me?&#8221;</p>
<p>MB: &#8220;Did you bring me an offering?&#8221;</p>
<p>FV: &#8220;I brought you some pink gloves&#8221;.</p>
<p>MB: &#8220;Mmm, they do what they r supposed 2&#8243;</p>
<p>FV: &#8220;Michele why have you betrayed me?&#8221;</p>
<p>MB: &#8220;Pastor Quack says you are not a winner&#8221;</p>
<p>FV: KNOCK KNOCK is anyone ELSE down there?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jonerik</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonerik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl&#039;s point here is right even if it is not exactly pertinent to the issues of the campaign. Bachmann has kept a tight lid over anything that would interfere with the persona she seeks to project to to the public. While a few of us see her for the liar, bigot and nut job she really is, the media and many voters in the Sixth see a hard working devout Christian mom who raised 23 foster children and who courageously stands up for what she believes. That would be consistent with the person who wrote an apparently heartfelt letter of support for Frank Vennes&#039;s pardon. 

Now, with the Petters indictment forthcoming and Vennes himself thrown into the middle of a lawsuit accused of being a tool of Petters by some of the Christian charities he is involved with, Bachmann revokes her support of Vennes. Vennes has not been charged with anything. What has changed since Bachmann wrote her letter of support? One thing is that Bachmann is in the middle of a political campaign where her carefully burnished image is under scrutiny. So what if a truly reformed and Christian man is not given a pardon if by disassociating myself from him, I  Michele Bachmann, can get re-elected?  

&quot;Then a servant girl,seeing him the firelight, stared at him and said, &quot;This man also was with him.&quot; But he denied it, saying, &quot;Woman, I do not know him.&quot; ....&quot; Luke 22:56-62.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl&#8217;s point here is right even if it is not exactly pertinent to the issues of the campaign. Bachmann has kept a tight lid over anything that would interfere with the persona she seeks to project to to the public. While a few of us see her for the liar, bigot and nut job she really is, the media and many voters in the Sixth see a hard working devout Christian mom who raised 23 foster children and who courageously stands up for what she believes. That would be consistent with the person who wrote an apparently heartfelt letter of support for Frank Vennes&#8217;s pardon. </p>
<p>Now, with the Petters indictment forthcoming and Vennes himself thrown into the middle of a lawsuit accused of being a tool of Petters by some of the Christian charities he is involved with, Bachmann revokes her support of Vennes. Vennes has not been charged with anything. What has changed since Bachmann wrote her letter of support? One thing is that Bachmann is in the middle of a political campaign where her carefully burnished image is under scrutiny. So what if a truly reformed and Christian man is not given a pardon if by disassociating myself from him, I  Michele Bachmann, can get re-elected?  </p>
<p>&#8220;Then a servant girl,seeing him the firelight, stared at him and said, &#8220;This man also was with him.&#8221; But he denied it, saying, &#8220;Woman, I do not know him.&#8221; &#8230;.&#8221; Luke 22:56-62.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing to me that most everyone is quick judge before any evidence is shown in a court of law. But then again that is Man&#039;s nature. Most likely no one who has posted replies to this article has even met Frank Vennes. Frank has touched more lives in a positive way in the last few years than most people do in a life time. How do I know? Because I&#039;m one of those people. Even in the worst case, I will always be thankful to God for Frank&#039;s generous heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to me that most everyone is quick judge before any evidence is shown in a court of law. But then again that is Man&#8217;s nature. Most likely no one who has posted replies to this article has even met Frank Vennes. Frank has touched more lives in a positive way in the last few years than most people do in a life time. How do I know? Because I&#8217;m one of those people. Even in the worst case, I will always be thankful to God for Frank&#8217;s generous heart.</p>
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		<title>By: DumpBachmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>DumpBachmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very relevant Mr. Avidor, he sounds MAINSTREAM just like &quot;Hot for God&quot; Bachmann.

Hey Nate, wasn&#039;t Obama about 8 when that happened? About when McCain was trying to pressure the Keating5 S&amp;Ls that had Cindy McCain&#039;s clear conflict of interest $$Millions? Relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very relevant Mr. Avidor, he sounds MAINSTREAM just like &#8220;Hot for God&#8221; Bachmann.</p>
<p>Hey Nate, wasn&#8217;t Obama about 8 when that happened? About when McCain was trying to pressure the Keating5 S&amp;Ls that had Cindy McCain&#8217;s clear conflict of interest $$Millions? Relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Avidor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avidor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Strib... what was found at the Vennes home by the Feds:

&lt;i&gt;Last week, agents with the FBI, IRS criminal investigative division and U.S. Postal Inspection Service seized scores of documents, computers and records from Vennes&#039; home -- including checkbooks from one of the charities he had sponsored.

From a basement vault, agents took boxes and buckets of silver and gold coins, trays of jewelry, five stacks of $100 bills, boxes of gem stones, silver plates and Rolex watches. Agents also seized diamond rings and numerous paintings, including dozens with religious themes, such as the raising of Lazarus from the dead.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Strib&#8230; what was found at the Vennes home by the Feds:</p>
<p><i>Last week, agents with the FBI, IRS criminal investigative division and U.S. Postal Inspection Service seized scores of documents, computers and records from Vennes&#8217; home &#8212; including checkbooks from one of the charities he had sponsored.</p>
<p>From a basement vault, agents took boxes and buckets of silver and gold coins, trays of jewelry, five stacks of $100 bills, boxes of gem stones, silver plates and Rolex watches. Agents also seized diamond rings and numerous paintings, including dozens with religious themes, such as the raising of Lazarus from the dead.</i></p>
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