The Schultz Report: Is Minnesota another Florida 2000? No, and yes

By Steve Perry
Friday, November 14, 2008 at 12:43 pm

In this week’s edition of the Schultz Report, David Schultz examines the looming vote recount in the Minnesota US Senate face-off between Sen. Norm Coleman and Al Franken.

Is the situation here another Florida 2000 cage match, as so many pundits are claiming? “No,” says Schultz, “in the sense that we don’t face the same problems as Florida on several counts. In Florida, we had clear evidence of a secretary of state, Katherine Harris, engaging in vote suppression and purges of voter lists. We have no evidence of that in Minnesota. The secretary of state is trying to figure out how to count every vote, and to encourage people to vote. Second, unlike Florida, where we had multiple different technologies used across the state to vote, Minnesota pretty much has one technology to vote.

David Schultz

David Schultz

“Third, unlike Florida, when they actually started doing the recount in the four counties — where the Supreme Court entered in, for good or for bad, was when it reacted to the problems we all remember, where you had people in one county counting ballots differently [from another county]. Is a dimpled chad counted? A pregnant chad? What if it had two of its corners torn loose? In that state, you had wide variance across the four recount counties regarding what was considered to be the intent of the voter. That’s where the Supreme Court entered in and said you had to have uniform standards.

“Unlike that problem in Florida, Minnesota has a state law that describes how you ascertain voter intent. And what the law first says is that, if at all possible, the intent of the voter should be ascertained. And more importantly, the law says that technical noncompliance with the law in terms of how you cast your vote should not be an obstacle to counting votes. The law says that even if you don’t follow [ballot rules] to a tee — even if, for example, you circle a name as opposed to filling in a bubble dot — if you can figure out how that person meant to vote, you have to do it. So the law is very different in terms of establishing uniform standards.

“For all those reasons, we’re not Florida. Where we are Florida is in terms of the ideological battle that’s being waged by the Republicans to attack Mark Ritchie and to cast doubts on what’s happening in Minnesota — anywhere from claiming that Mark Ritchie is the new Katherine Harris to claiming that votes are being manufactured. To that extent, Minnesota has become a powerful battleground, like Florida. And additionally, while Florida was the state that decided a presidency, it is possible that, depending on what happens in Alaska and Georgia, Minnesota could be the deciding state to determine whether the Democrats get 60 votes in the US Senate. If they get 60 votes in the Senate, that means they have the votes to break a Republican filibuster. So the stakes are enormous, and from that score we’re potentially another Florida in terms of the high stakes going on.”

Listen: David Schultz discusses the great recount shootout of ’08 (and Michele Bachmann’s last laugh on the bailout bill) (12:48)

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Comments

6 Comments

city
Comment posted November 14, 2008 @ 1:51 pm

Watching from California, I sure hope Al Franken wins.


Coors4bob
Comment posted November 14, 2008 @ 1:58 pm

Watching from Texas I sure hope Al Franken gets food poisoning.


Will it end?
Comment posted November 14, 2008 @ 2:44 pm

Watching from Oklahoma, I sure hope Texas jumps ship to Mexico.


John K
Comment posted November 14, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

“It is not who votes that counts; it is who counts the votes.” Karl Marx It appears that Karl is doing the counting in Minnesota.


snowbird
Comment posted November 15, 2008 @ 2:22 pm

Please. Mexico has enough problems.


Minnesota Central
Comment posted November 19, 2008 @ 10:46 am

Since the subject is voting in Florida and Minnesota, has anyone looked at “double” voting … using an absentee ballot to vote in your “summer” home-state (where the Senate race was important) and voting in person in Florida in your “winter” home-state (where the Presidential race was considered in play) ?

There are a number of people with dual-residency … Florida, Texas and Arizona in addtion to their Minnesota roots.


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