Comments on: WSJ: Franken campaign trying to ’steal’ election http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election News. Politics. Media. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:43:11 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John K http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18705 John K Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:03:10 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18705 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122722771153246225.html Al Franken's Minnesota WSJ's response to Marc Elias. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122722771153246225.html

Al Franken’s Minnesota

WSJ’s response to Marc Elias.

]]> By: Nixon http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18703 Nixon Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:49:09 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18703 This is a simple issue. Local election officials fall under the fourth branch of government (headed by Dick Chaney) and their work is not subject to any review. Unlike the entire rest of the election process, the local election officials' work regarding absentee ballots is exempt from any checks or balances. It's a clear as day. I thought the Lizard People all explained this to you earlier? Weren't you paying attention? This is a simple issue.

Local election officials fall under the fourth branch of government (headed by Dick Chaney) and their work is not subject to any review. Unlike the entire rest of the election process, the local election officials’ work regarding absentee ballots is exempt from any checks or balances.

It’s a clear as day. I thought the Lizard People all explained this to you earlier? Weren’t you paying attention?

]]> By: Sick of the GOP B*tching http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18697 Sick of the GOP B*tching Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:16:10 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18697 I'm really not trying to be partisan here, but the Republican whine and constant childish berating of Franken over this whole election is getting so old. I simply am not seeing one tenth the amount of vitriol from Franken supporters. And it's not for a lack of looking- I was a Barkley supporter. Please folks, give it a rest. It's really pathetic. And it's making me really hope Franken does win. This race is close like none ever. 2,900,000+ votes and it's within 200. It's closer than the voting machines are precise, so we honestly, truly have zero idea who one. None- whether you think we do or not. A recount should be a recount of all votes- those that were effectively ruled out by machines as well as the ones ruled out by people. That's what you do, revisit and recount every ballot. So let's do it. And the WSJ can take a walk- seems to me these days they ought to be worrying a bit more about their business. I’m really not trying to be partisan here, but the Republican whine and constant childish berating of Franken over this whole election is getting so old. I simply am not seeing one tenth the amount of vitriol from Franken supporters. And it’s not for a lack of looking- I was a Barkley supporter. Please folks, give it a rest. It’s really pathetic. And it’s making me really hope Franken does win. This race is close like none ever. 2,900,000+ votes and it’s within 200. It’s closer than the voting machines are precise, so we honestly, truly have zero idea who one. None- whether you think we do or not. A recount should be a recount of all votes- those that were effectively ruled out by machines as well as the ones ruled out by people. That’s what you do, revisit and recount every ballot. So let’s do it. And the WSJ can take a walk- seems to me these days they ought to be worrying a bit more about their business.

]]> By: abraxaf http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18694 abraxaf Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:46:10 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18694 icecycle, see http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/interview-with-john-ziegler-on-zogby.html and http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/zogbys-misleading-poll-of-obama-voters-459/ icecycle, see http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/interview-with-john-ziegler-on-zogby.html and http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/zogbys-misleading-poll-of-obama-voters-459/

]]> By: icecycle http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18692 icecycle Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:27:04 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18692 Next, Franken will be demanding we count the "training ballots" that kids filled out at the polls. After all, from what I've seen, a six year old child has a at least as good a grasp of political issues and candidates as did many of the people that voted Democrat this year. http://www.howobamagotelected.com/ Next, Franken will be demanding we count the “training ballots” that kids filled out at the polls.

After all, from what I’ve seen, a six year old child has a at least as good a grasp of political issues and candidates as did many of the people that voted Democrat this year.

http://www.howobamagotelected.com/

]]> By: Hot News And Web Search http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18690 Hot News And Web Search Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:10:31 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18690 The Wall Street Journal is owned by Billionaire Rupert Murdock who owns Fox News. The Wall Street Journal is owned by Billionaire Rupert Murdock who owns Fox News.

]]> By: Michael Compton http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18688 Michael Compton Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:04:20 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18688 We've now all seen some of the rejected ballots, and it's clear that some of them should not have been discarded. The original count erred on the side of extreme caution, but in a race this close it is absolutely proper/necessary to attempt to count every vote possible. The WSJ is clearly wrong on this one, though perhaps they meant well. We’ve now all seen some of the rejected ballots, and it’s clear that some of them should not have been discarded. The original count erred on the side of extreme caution, but in a race this close it is absolutely proper/necessary to attempt to count every vote possible. The WSJ is clearly wrong on this one, though perhaps they meant well.

]]> By: John http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18685 John Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:52:54 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18685 I would think everyone voter who's ballot was rejected and every other voter in a democracy would welcome a viable appeals process to insure all legal voters ballots are counted. This is clearly not an invasion of anyone's privacy. It is a check and balance on those persons deciding a ballot should not be counted. I would think everyone voter who’s ballot was rejected and every other voter in a democracy would welcome a viable appeals process to insure all legal voters ballots are counted. This is clearly not an invasion of anyone’s privacy. It is a check and balance on those persons deciding a ballot should not be counted.

]]> By: aBigDog http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18684 aBigDog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:52:40 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18684 legalities aside, common sense dictates that, as an election recount is intended to subject the entire election canvassing process to additional scrutiny, and yes, even an adversarial process, the decision as to whether an absentee ballot should be counted or rejected should be reviewed as well. to my mind what injects politics into the absentee ballot question, and a nasty kind of politics at that, is to allege that somehow "voter privacy" will be violated. well, hello ... when the decision on whether to count an absentee ballot is reviewed, ONLY THE ENVELOPE will be seen by franken and coleman observers. the observers aren't going to see BOTH the envelope's exterior, with voter name and address, and ALSO the voter's actual vote! so how is the privacy of the vote compromised? it's the vote that is secret, not whether you voted absentee or in-person! just ridiculous. please excuse my captalization (or lack thereof). legalities aside, common sense dictates that, as an election recount is intended to subject the entire election canvassing process to additional scrutiny, and yes, even an adversarial process, the decision as to whether an absentee ballot should be counted or rejected should be reviewed as well.

to my mind what injects politics into the absentee ballot question, and a nasty kind of politics at that, is to allege that somehow “voter privacy” will be violated. well, hello … when the decision on whether to count an absentee ballot is reviewed, ONLY THE ENVELOPE will be seen by franken and coleman observers. the observers aren’t going to see BOTH the envelope’s exterior, with voter name and address, and ALSO the voter’s actual vote! so how is the privacy of the vote compromised? it’s the vote that is secret, not whether you voted absentee or in-person!

just ridiculous. please excuse my captalization (or lack thereof).

]]> By: Phil http://minnesotaindependent.com/18179/wsj-franken-campaign-trying-to-steal-election/comment-page-1#comment-18682 Phil Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:37:14 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=18179#comment-18682 Where is Kathleen Harris when they need her? Where is Kathleen Harris when they need her?

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