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	<title>Comments on: Norm Coleman: &#8216;I&#8217;m a winner&#8217; and &#8216;most challenges will be dismissed&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NORM COLEMAN: &quot;I am a weiner&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: John K</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only relevance karela comment seems to have to the recount is the fact that Franken is radioactive.  By the way, France gets most of its energy from nuclear power plants and they seem to be doing very well, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only relevance karela comment seems to have to the recount is the fact that Franken is radioactive.  By the way, France gets most of its energy from nuclear power plants and they seem to be doing very well, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy Chase touched upon one very important point that people like Brent never seem to realize. WE DONT GET THE OIL!!! EXXON GETS THE OIL!! Our oil is NOT nationalized in this country. Just because they pull it out of our land doesnt automatically mean we get &quot;dibs&quot; on it. If exxon wanted to, they could take the oil and sell it to China, or Russia, or anywhere. The oil produced would be factored into the global market causing a very slight and very temporary drop in price. 

“This apparent aversion to drilling or producing our own petrol resources is economic suicide.”

This quote from Brent proves how little he understands the issue. Notice how he refers to it as &quot;our own petrol&quot;. If this was Venezuela, than Brent would be correct. However this is not Venezuela. In the past the US has invaded countries and overthrown democratic leaders to stop them from nationalizing their oil, so i very much doubt that were going to then turn around and nationalize it ourselves. Brent needs to bone up on the facts before coming in here and trashing on everyone else. Oh yeah, and mentioning ACORN at the end was a nice touch. It put the final nail in the coffin of Brents credibility.

If common sence was gasoline the republican party wouldnt have enough power to back out of their own driveway.

I have my problems with the democrat party as well, but at least their living on the same planet as i am. I swear sometimes it seems like the republicans live in an alternate reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Chase touched upon one very important point that people like Brent never seem to realize. WE DONT GET THE OIL!!! EXXON GETS THE OIL!! Our oil is NOT nationalized in this country. Just because they pull it out of our land doesnt automatically mean we get &#8220;dibs&#8221; on it. If exxon wanted to, they could take the oil and sell it to China, or Russia, or anywhere. The oil produced would be factored into the global market causing a very slight and very temporary drop in price. </p>
<p>“This apparent aversion to drilling or producing our own petrol resources is economic suicide.”</p>
<p>This quote from Brent proves how little he understands the issue. Notice how he refers to it as &#8220;our own petrol&#8221;. If this was Venezuela, than Brent would be correct. However this is not Venezuela. In the past the US has invaded countries and overthrown democratic leaders to stop them from nationalizing their oil, so i very much doubt that were going to then turn around and nationalize it ourselves. Brent needs to bone up on the facts before coming in here and trashing on everyone else. Oh yeah, and mentioning ACORN at the end was a nice touch. It put the final nail in the coffin of Brents credibility.</p>
<p>If common sence was gasoline the republican party wouldnt have enough power to back out of their own driveway.</p>
<p>I have my problems with the democrat party as well, but at least their living on the same planet as i am. I swear sometimes it seems like the republicans live in an alternate reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Totto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a heck of a lot of hate, Esteban.  Poor guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a heck of a lot of hate, Esteban.  Poor guy!</p>
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		<title>By: G.G.Vadnais</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.G.Vadnais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coleman quotes; two from the same interview:

&quot;I&#039;m not going around wringing my hands, worrying about the recount.&quot;

&quot;I attribute that statement of mine to the fact I haven&#039;t slept in three days.&quot;

Yes, those who lie live in glass houses.

GGV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coleman quotes; two from the same interview:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not going around wringing my hands, worrying about the recount.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I attribute that statement of mine to the fact I haven&#8217;t slept in three days.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, those who lie live in glass houses.</p>
<p>GGV</p>
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		<title>By: Esteban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esteban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s funny when people scream about &quot;Republicans&quot; - but it was Obama the Christ who said in his nomination acceptance speech (and elsewhere) that he was for &quot;safe nuclear&quot; power, whatever that is.  Obama the Christ is also the BIGGEST supporter of planet-destroying/poor people-starving ethanol.  Obama the Christ has also &quot;reversed&quot; his opposition to offshore drilling, as if he believes in anything at all.  Bottom line: Obama believes in nothing and never has (except his own career); &quot;his&quot; choices (or his masters&#039; choices) for the Cabinet and White House staff are telling; most pathetic of all, instead of resisting Obama the Christ&#039;s fascist skullduggery, we will be treated to Clinton-era excuses from &quot;progressives&quot; and downright hysterical protectiveness when the GOP/corpmedia launch the INEVITABLE sex/money scandal against Obama the Christ.  Or maybe some faction of the ruling class will panic and off him JFK-style and turn him into St. Barack and give him a national holiday.  Sorry if I blew the ending for you suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny when people scream about &#8220;Republicans&#8221; &#8211; but it was Obama the Christ who said in his nomination acceptance speech (and elsewhere) that he was for &#8220;safe nuclear&#8221; power, whatever that is.  Obama the Christ is also the BIGGEST supporter of planet-destroying/poor people-starving ethanol.  Obama the Christ has also &#8220;reversed&#8221; his opposition to offshore drilling, as if he believes in anything at all.  Bottom line: Obama believes in nothing and never has (except his own career); &#8220;his&#8221; choices (or his masters&#8217; choices) for the Cabinet and White House staff are telling; most pathetic of all, instead of resisting Obama the Christ&#8217;s fascist skullduggery, we will be treated to Clinton-era excuses from &#8220;progressives&#8221; and downright hysterical protectiveness when the GOP/corpmedia launch the INEVITABLE sex/money scandal against Obama the Christ.  Or maybe some faction of the ruling class will panic and off him JFK-style and turn him into St. Barack and give him a national holiday.  Sorry if I blew the ending for you suckers.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent, US oil reserves are less than 2% of the world total, whereas US oil consumption is well over 20% of the total. Increasing drilling can only be, at best, a very small part of the future. And have you forgotten about the urgent problem of global warming (or are you one of the denialists, who simply will not listen to the scientific facts on the matter?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent, US oil reserves are less than 2% of the world total, whereas US oil consumption is well over 20% of the total. Increasing drilling can only be, at best, a very small part of the future. And have you forgotten about the urgent problem of global warming (or are you one of the denialists, who simply will not listen to the scientific facts on the matter?).</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Probably Nancy didn’t like the way they looked…you know how artificial and materialistic she was and is.&quot;

Hey!  She strongly came out in support of stell cell research.  I have to respect her for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Probably Nancy didn’t like the way they looked…you know how artificial and materialistic she was and is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey!  She strongly came out in support of stell cell research.  I have to respect her for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent began his post with this insult:

&quot;I am so shocked and disillusioned by the brainwashing and how the dumbing down of America has produced so many people in our Country with no critical thinking skills. There is so much misinformation in the post I am reading here that I would have to write an entire article to debunk all of the pap.&quot;

You better agree with him, folks, otherwise he will call you stupid, too.  Of course this is an ad hominem attack -- because he finds it necessary to attack the author in order to attack the author&#039;s argument.

He later states,

&quot;Oh and I am one of those evil republicans.&quot;

Well, I guess this explains why you found it necessary to begin your post by attacking the author&#039;s intelligence rather than pointing out what was wrong with his article.  Seems to be a habit with many of those on that side of the political spectrum.  Seen a lot of it coming from over there recently.

He then states,

&quot;This apparent aversion to drilling or producing our own petrol resources is economic suicide.&quot;

Go ahead and drill!  Neither I nor Obama really care.  But with all US oil reserves being roughly 3% of the world&#039;s, I don&#039;t think that it is going to matter that much -- particularly when whatever oil gets produced offshore gets sold on the world market -- and not just in US markets.

Still I might go for it -- if it means that we aren&#039;t producing synthetic oil produced from coal with twice the carbon emissions of regular oil, or purchasing synthetic oil from the tar sands of Canada with three times the carbon emissions.  Perhaps it would buy a little more time for the world to wisely invest in solar and wind rather than become addicted to non-traditional fossil fuel from the carbon deposits left behind by the Permian-Triassic extinction -- which was brought about by an earlier period of rapid global warming -- set off by the release of carbon dioxide from a million year supervolcano and the methane released from methane cathrate deposits in the shallow waters along the edges of the continental plates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent began his post with this insult:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am so shocked and disillusioned by the brainwashing and how the dumbing down of America has produced so many people in our Country with no critical thinking skills. There is so much misinformation in the post I am reading here that I would have to write an entire article to debunk all of the pap.&#8221;</p>
<p>You better agree with him, folks, otherwise he will call you stupid, too.  Of course this is an ad hominem attack &#8212; because he finds it necessary to attack the author in order to attack the author&#8217;s argument.</p>
<p>He later states,</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh and I am one of those evil republicans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I guess this explains why you found it necessary to begin your post by attacking the author&#8217;s intelligence rather than pointing out what was wrong with his article.  Seems to be a habit with many of those on that side of the political spectrum.  Seen a lot of it coming from over there recently.</p>
<p>He then states,</p>
<p>&#8220;This apparent aversion to drilling or producing our own petrol resources is economic suicide.&#8221;</p>
<p>Go ahead and drill!  Neither I nor Obama really care.  But with all US oil reserves being roughly 3% of the world&#8217;s, I don&#8217;t think that it is going to matter that much &#8212; particularly when whatever oil gets produced offshore gets sold on the world market &#8212; and not just in US markets.</p>
<p>Still I might go for it &#8212; if it means that we aren&#8217;t producing synthetic oil produced from coal with twice the carbon emissions of regular oil, or purchasing synthetic oil from the tar sands of Canada with three times the carbon emissions.  Perhaps it would buy a little more time for the world to wisely invest in solar and wind rather than become addicted to non-traditional fossil fuel from the carbon deposits left behind by the Permian-Triassic extinction &#8212; which was brought about by an earlier period of rapid global warming &#8212; set off by the release of carbon dioxide from a million year supervolcano and the methane released from methane cathrate deposits in the shallow waters along the edges of the continental plates.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha.

Checked out the link &quot;somehow gotten a different message...&quot;  Minnesota Republicans comparing Minnesota 2008 to Florida 2000 with Secretary of State Mark Ritchie as the Democratic version of Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris -- presumably gaming the election system to get his candidate elected.  Of course this implies that they know Harris was actually doing gaming the election system back in 2000 and that they can assume that their audience will already take this as a given -- for this bit of analogistic reasoning to work.  (If one assumes that Harris was simply maligned by the other party, the analogy will lead to the opposite conclusion that Ritchie is on the up-and-up.)   This being the case, it would appear that they are well-aware of the fact that Bush illegitimately took the presidency back in 2000.  (And he did -- an exhaustive reanalysis of the voting records by the major newspapers that was completed in late 2001 showed that by any rational standard, a recount of the four counties would have made it appear that Gore had lost the election, but a recount of the entire state would have shown that Gore had won.  But the results of the reanalysis were downplayed by the papers as the nation had just been attacked weeks earlier on 9/11 and with the nation going to war, the papers did not want to be calling into question the legitimacy of the president and his administration.)

Nice to catch people in their dishonesty -- even if it is nearly eight years too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha.</p>
<p>Checked out the link &#8220;somehow gotten a different message&#8230;&#8221;  Minnesota Republicans comparing Minnesota 2008 to Florida 2000 with Secretary of State Mark Ritchie as the Democratic version of Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris &#8212; presumably gaming the election system to get his candidate elected.  Of course this implies that they know Harris was actually doing gaming the election system back in 2000 and that they can assume that their audience will already take this as a given &#8212; for this bit of analogistic reasoning to work.  (If one assumes that Harris was simply maligned by the other party, the analogy will lead to the opposite conclusion that Ritchie is on the up-and-up.)   This being the case, it would appear that they are well-aware of the fact that Bush illegitimately took the presidency back in 2000.  (And he did &#8212; an exhaustive reanalysis of the voting records by the major newspapers that was completed in late 2001 showed that by any rational standard, a recount of the four counties would have made it appear that Gore had lost the election, but a recount of the entire state would have shown that Gore had won.  But the results of the reanalysis were downplayed by the papers as the nation had just been attacked weeks earlier on 9/11 and with the nation going to war, the papers did not want to be calling into question the legitimacy of the president and his administration.)</p>
<p>Nice to catch people in their dishonesty &#8212; even if it is nearly eight years too late.</p>
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