Comments on: A (Possible) Buzz.mn Boycott and a Strib-Vikes Land Deal

By: lloydletta2

lloydletta2 — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:34:48 +0000

Advertising will be less valable on the Buzz If traffic is more national than local. Advertisers do like to reach targetted audiences - and don't want to be paying for people who can't come to their event, store or whatever.

Eric Black's blog had local people commenting day to day.

By: Master of None

Master of None — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:13:14 +0000

Hey Joe At our sister site, Colorado Confidential, this actually led to an investigative piece being published that targeted someone who was actually a donor to the Center for Independent Media.

Do you have a link for that?

By: Joe Bodell

Joe Bodell — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:21:46 +0000

Thanks Yes, I like to think we do have chutzpah, thanks for noticing.

The reason we don't disclose the identity of our donors is because we, as contributors to Minnesota Monitor, don't know those identities. At our sister site, Colorado Confidential, this actually led to an investigative piece being published that targeted someone who was actually a donor to the Center for Independent Media.

As for the word "unbiased", if you read our Code of Ethics document, it is clear in stating that we favor fact over balance. If you've ever met Paul, it would also be clear that he is not the type of person to speak or write in the form of "pissy little tirades." On the contrary, he brings up good points about the motivation behind Lileks' move to Buzz.mn.

We also prefer the abbreviation "MinMon"; since we are shortening "Minnesota Monitor", we prefer that the abbreviated form actually come directly from the site's full name.

Thanks!

By: Dontcha?

Dontcha? — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:10:43 +0000

You use a lot of quotation marks. Given the hyperlocal emphasis touted by managers at the restructured Strib, I'd guess maybe someone would want to pay lip service (at least) to the actual community the paper is located in.

By: Amused onlooker

Amused onlooker — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:58:33 +0000

You've got some chutzpa "If so, are they -- or potential contributors at the Strib -- concerned that readers of this "community journalism website" aren't necessarily from the local community?"

Why would contributors to a "community journalism website" be any more concerned where their readers come from than readers of this "new journalism" project are about why the "reporters" refuse to disclose who is paying for their "unbiased" "reporting"?

I'm guessing this pissy little tirade is being fueled by nothing more than the fact that Lilek's daily hits add up to more than MiniMoni gets in a week.

By: Amused onlooker

Amused onlooker — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:58:25 +0000

You've got some chutzpa "If so, are they -- or potential contributors at the Strib -- concerned that readers of this "community journalism website" aren't necessarily from the local community?"

I'm guessing this pissy little tirade is being fueled by nothing more than the fact that Lilek's daily hits add up to more than MiniMoni gets in a week.

By: Amused onlooker

Amused onlooker — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

You’ve got some chutzpa “If so, are they — or potential contributors at the Strib — concerned that readers of this “community journalism website” aren’t necessarily from the local community?”

Why would contributors to a “community journalism website” be any more concerned where their readers come from than readers of this “new journalism” project are about why the “reporters” refuse to disclose who is paying for their “unbiased” “reporting”?

I’m guessing this pissy little tirade is being fueled by nothing more than the fact that Lilek’s daily hits add up to more than MiniMoni gets in a week.

By: Amused onlooker

Amused onlooker — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I’m guessing this pissy little tirade is being fueled by nothing more than the fact that Lilek’s daily hits add up to more than MiniMoni gets in a week.

By: Dontcha?

Dontcha? — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

You use a lot of quotation marks. Given the hyperlocal emphasis touted by managers at the restructured Strib, I’d guess maybe someone would want to pay lip service (at least) to the actual community the paper is located in.

By: Joe Bodell

Joe Bodell — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks Yes, I like to think we do have chutzpah, thanks for noticing.

The reason we don’t disclose the identity of our donors is because we, as contributors to Minnesota Monitor, don’t know those identities. At our sister site, Colorado Confidential, this actually led to an investigative piece being published that targeted someone who was actually a donor to the Center for Independent Media.

As for the word “unbiased”, if you read our Code of Ethics document, it is clear in stating that we favor fact over balance. If you’ve ever met Paul, it would also be clear that he is not the type of person to speak or write in the form of “pissy little tirades.” On the contrary, he brings up good points about the motivation behind Lileks’ move to Buzz.mn.

We also prefer the abbreviation “MinMon”; since we are shortening “Minnesota Monitor”, we prefer that the abbreviated form actually come directly from the site’s full name.

Thanks!