Gay community slams Obama on inauguration pastor pick

This is both outrageous and very, very disappointing. How can a man (Obama) who is pro-choice and I though supportive of gay rights have a man who is anti choice and slanders gays and lesbians offer the invocation.

We Democrats need to stop pandering to these religious wackos and calling them what they are, bigots who harden the hearts and enslave the minds of their parishoners. Shame on Obama for supporting this kind of intolerant ass. Whats all this talk about a “science” driven administration? This is the farthest thing from it.

I wrote both Rick Warren and Obama transition blog
As an openly gay donor to Obama campaign the news of Rick Warren giving the invocation at the inaugeral ,is election night deja vu, all over again. Gays and Lesbians were celebrationg with all the rest of America the Obama victory, then at 11pm we get a shiv shoved in our back with prop 8. Rick Warren and the LDS elders were the MAIN SUPPORTERS which attacked LGBT families in CA, making us the ONE minority not covered by the equal protection clause.
I hope EVERY queer and our friends attending the Inaugeral, TURNS THEIR BACK to Rick Warren, a salute of a single finger wouldn’t hurt …either.
I am so disappointed the president to Bring America TOGETHER, chooses to tear us apart at his FIRST oppurtunity

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE…what’s this WE crud?

We told you…he’s all about the show, being popular and getting himself elected. Suckers.

Give me a break. The problem with the gay and lesbian community is that want everything catered to them. First, Obama is not putting enough gays and lesbians in his cabinet, now you slam him for inviting a minister to his inaugaration. What the heck do you want? An aetheist to deliver the invocation?

Your group needs to understand that you are in the VERY slim minority in the United States. You couldn’t even keep a gay marriage ban from being voted in the most liberal state in the country. The vast majority of americans think that homosexuality is perverted, and we have the RIGHT to feel that way and express it. I am sick of people being deemed haters and closed minded because they are against your twisted lifestyle. This country was founded under the principles of God, and many are intent on keeping it that way, because they like it. Get over it.

Personally I do not think that Rick Warren is a good representitve of true Christian values. It is still easy to stand up and condemn HOMOsexuality, gay marriage and Abortions because it truly is an illness that needs to be irradicated. But there is also a sense that Rick Warren doesn’t really believe what he says, because if he did he would not deliver the invocation speech for President Elect Obama who does support immoral things like samesex marriage and even worse abortion.

Sounds like a tolerant group.

“I am so disappointed the president to Bring America TOGETHER, chooses to tear us apart at his FIRST opportunity”

What a narrow minded opinion.

People that aren’t religious don’t pray. Of those in America that are religious most are Christians. Of those that are Christians the vast majority oppose gay marriage (for some reasons that are legitimate and some that are illegitimate) Choosing Rick Warren does way less “tearing apart” than most other options.

I’m pretty sure Obama is a lot more qualified to make this decision than the hypersensitive LGBT community.

EVERY preacher in America is probably against Abortion/Homosexualty. Stop this nonsense with these stupid articles, PLEASE!!!

So much for “change you can believe in”.

It’s not YOUR inauguration. You will never be happy. You want everyone to tolerate your ideas, but you are unwilling to tolerate ANYONE who doesn’t agree with you. How does that work?
That’s the problem with you liberals.
He’s the President elect of ALL America. Learn some tolerance people. LOVE ALL right?
May God Bless us ALL.

I guess I don’t get it. If we are indeed to be “inclusive”, does that mean we “exclude” those who don’t agree with us? Hmmm, something to think about.

This is a terrible misstep by an otherwise smart Obama. He’d be wise to retract the invitation of such a devisive and hateful individual.

Who is attacking whom? What the LGBT community are saying to the rest of us is clear. ANYONE who does not fully embrace the LGBT cause is attacking them.
ANYONE who does not agree with the LGBT agenda to change the definition of marriage is hateful.
ANYONE who dares say there are sacred standards that do not agree with the LGBT are “homophobic fundamentalists.”
When I hear the responses of the LGBT I feel attacked, I feel hated and I feel degraded. Toleration is not embrace, it is not acceptance, it is enduring differences with respect. I can never accept the LGBT movement’s disregard for the divine design for sexuality.

In the whole schedule of events and speakers, what no one is noticing is
that there are two preachers involved: Rick gives the invocation at the
beginning, and Joseph Lowery will give the benediction at the end.

http://inaugural.senate.gov/media/releases/release-12172008-inauguralwebsite
.cfm

Lowery, you may recall, was a colleague of MLK’s in Montgomery, then headed
up the SCLC. At Coretta Scott King’s funeral — attended by Dubya, Clinton,
Bush the Elder, and Carter (and their wives) — Lowery famously tore into
Dubya (to his face!) over Iraq:

“She [Coretta] extended Martin’s message against poverty, racism and
war. She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way
afar. We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there. But
Coretta knew and we know that there are weapons of misdirection right down
here. Millions without health insurance, poverty abound. For war, billions
more, but no more for the poor.

Well, Coretta had harsh critics, some no one could please. But she paid
them no mind. She kept speaking for the least of these.”

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3j9ltp1qM8
(check about the 4:40 mark)

Like it or not, President-elect Obama has publicly declared that he is a Christian; and that’s who most LGBT’s in the US voted for. Christianity’s sole source for written instruction is the Bible. The Bible speaks against homosexuality and abortion many times. So why is anyone surprised that Obama has chosen Rick Warren?

I dont know what you guys are crying about!

you both were listening during the debates, both candidates where asked their views on marriage and Gay marriage, both said they supported civil unions and both said, MARRIAGE IS ONLY BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. Obama didnt lose prop 8 for you… YOU did! you did nothing when the prop 8 was being bankrolled, you didnt mobilize your own response to it until the final weeks before the elections, you never went into the churches – where the Church of LDS (Mormons) went (the supreme irony is that of an organization which so bastardized marriage into a polygamous monstrosity – one man having many wives (even child brides), financed the removal of the marriage option for a gay monogamous male/female.

You cant cry at Obama, on this issue, he is being entirely consistent with his pre-election positions. You need to get wise, the key you need to turn to unlock the door of acceptance is not petulance and whining, but OPENESS.

GAYS NEED TO COME OUT – it has been convenient for too many of you to hide, and betray the others -if more people new gays (and not the media caricatures and stereotypes) then they would be more accepting of the rights you demand.

what you gays need, is not the right to marry, but the right to SERVE OPENLY IN THE MILITARY. *THAT* is the fulcrum on which all your inequalities are based.

IF, IN A TIME OF MULTIPLE WARS YOU ARE DEEMED NOT FIT TO SERVE, what good are you?

THAT is what you should be fighting for!
Then, when you have fought, died and bled, blood as red as anyone elses, how can you then be denied anything??

(Plus, by then you will also have considerable weapons training so they would be better off not messing with you)

Gays, aren’t you glad you voted for Obama now?

I’m gay. And…I tried to tell you! McCain/Palin were the better choice. Now watch as liars steal more of what belongs to all Americans: America.

Was it not Adam and Eve that were the first couple?
Had it been Adam and Steve, that would of been the begining and the end of it and we would not be having this conversation.

The change Obama was talking about was a change from capitalism to socialism. Socialist governments generally persecute sodomites. Your fearless leader fooled you didn’t he. See you at the whipping post.

I’ve been impressed with Obamas decisions on these types of issues and positions to date. Im a card carrying Republican. So what if the Homosexual crowd doesn’t like it? There less than 10% of the voting population, they act like there 90%. You want to be gay? Than be gay who cares. You don’t get it. When your issues create problems for the rest of us, you say inequity. Your not normal…don’t ask me to accept you as normal…your not. Your life style offends me. I don’t have to accedpt it.

This is par for the course for Obama – who cynically never corrected the incorrect statements made by pro-prop 8 robocalls that Obama supported prop 8. This guy compared gays to incest perpetrators and pedophiles.

Would it be ok if someone who said equally incendiary things about a racial or religious minority give the invocation? Why not get Pat Robertson, or John Hagee while he’s at it?

Ofcourse I wasn’t fool enough to donate to the Obama campaign. ;-)

Mark said gays are the only minority not covered by the equal protection clause. Rubbish. There are scads of minorities not covered by the equal protection clause: people who pick their noses at traffic lights, varnish-can collectors, pig farmers who wear boxer shorts, to name a few. Not EVERY single behavior warrants government approval and “protection”. Maybe Obama is just trying to show a little support for a minority that lately needs real protection (protection from bodily harm)–those California citizens who exercised a protected right of free speech by refusing to grant the gay community’s childish and petulant demands for unnecessary legal approval and acceptance, which is exactly what this fight is all about. It’s not about marriage at all–it’s about silencing anyone (like Rick Warren) who even suggests that wholesale approval and “normalization” of homosexuality might not be the best thing. Shut ‘em up, shout ‘em down, hang ‘em high–the gay lobby strategy in a nutshell.

I am so tired of gay people crying all the time. Why can’t we get married! Why can’t Obama have an all gay cabinet! Why do people make fun of us? Admit it people, Obama used you and then he moved on. No one really cares about gay people, they just want the votes. After that the line is cut and you are on your own to go stick it up the butt somewhere else.

We are ONE people. We’ve just elected a man who has promised to be president of ALL the people. I certainly do not agree with Rick Warren’s support of Proposition 8. I’m a white hetero-male who along with millions voted against it! And I’m also working alongside millions to undo it! I probably don’t agree with most of what Rick Warren represents. But I do support the inclusion of all LGBT persons under the full rights guaranteed under the Constitution. We don’t always get what we want. This is a mere skirmish. The real war lies ahead.
We’re just now beginning a new day in America when the politics of personal villification and rank divisiveness will become a thing of the past. We’ve all been in the dark and scary wilderness for so long that we can’t even recognize the greatness that lies within us all. There is going to be a dramatic difference in the way governance unfolds over the next eight years. This is a “symbolic” thing. Beware the deification of symbolism. No one gets hurt here. There are far bigger battles ahead. Keep your powder dry. Everything’s gonna be alright. This would not have been my choice either. But it’s also not always about how we act, but how we react.

@Lorne Weaver: best post in this thread

When will you people ever understand? It’s so depressing to me. I’m gay. I did not choose this. I am not a pervert pedophile, or freak. I’m an average American living my life. My coworkers know I’m gay and are supportive. Their political idealogies range from ultra conservative to screaming liberals. They knew me as a person before knowing I was gay. When I told them they had lots of questions but are not totally supportive End of story. How very sad that in 2008 there are those who still harbor such views. Do you not think there are gays in your family? In your church? Your friends? For God sake people, open your minds before you are just another ignorant cog in the wheel of history along with all the other intolerant people throughout millenia.

In the spirit of inclusiveness and big tent policy I suggest Obama invite White Supremacist to the White House for his inauguration.

From the bottom of my heart I pray to God that every bigot here may have at least one gay child. Amen.

It amazes me that a group that preaches tolerance is so intolerant. Gays, you need to understand that people have a right to disagree with your lifestyle, and the vast majority of americans do.

Go Marc Go Marc!!!!
and don’t back down! we don’t have to accept anything that is sin and certainly do not agree with it!
You are to Love! but agree NO WAY!

KSR pray all you want, however if it is not Gods will ,which it is not! He won’t listen to that garbage,as he won’t listen to anything bigots say ! Try praying for hearts to follow CHRIST AND GO BY HIS WAYS! instead of something you think is Bad.. Hmmm kinda bigoted,kettle calling pot Black! Hmmmmm!