Here’s a quick recap of the latest developments in Minnesota’s Senate recount as of mid-day Monday.
The biggest remaining pool of disputed ballots — 1,346 that that local officials rejected on Election Day for no legal reason — remain disputed. The campaigns of Al Franken and U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman differ sharply on how many should be counted; indeed, the two sides are off by an order of 10.
Yet under a state Supreme Court order they must somehow reconcile their views this week at 12 regional meetings where the ballots’ fate will be decided.
Meanwhile, the state’s only sure-bet senator, Amy Klobuchar — no stranger to electoral squeakers — said she prefers a seat-’em-first, sue-’em-later approach to the contested post. The recount now comes down to the 1,346 absentee ballots that the state’s 87 counties didn’t tally but now say they should have. By order of the state Supreme Court, the counties will submit uncounted, unopened absentee ballots by Friday (that’s a time extension) to the State Canvassing Board, which will incorporate them into the overall vote count before it certifies the election.
Not all 1,346 are likely to make it into the certified tally. First, the campaigns of Al Franken and U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman will review the uncounted ballot envelopes this week at 12 regional meetings around the state and knock out any they find unworthy of counting.
Franken’s folks sent the Coleman camp a letter over the weekend that proposed the two sides skip that step and essentially approve the inclusion of all the counties’ uncounted absentee ballots by acclamation. The Coleman campaign said no, that’s not what the Supreme Court asked us to do.
After a weekend of reviewing the uncounted ballots, Franken wants to count all 1,346 and Coleman wants to count only 136 — about a tenth of the total. The Supreme Court’s order includes a threat of unnamed sanctions for unreasonable objections but it isn’t clear what effect that will have this week.
Franken’s determination to count all the wrongly rejected absentee ballots rests on two ideas, one philosophical, the other political. Counting all valid votes has been the Franken battle cry from the beginning, so even with a lead in hand the campaign has continued to call for including any such ballots in the state’s tally. And with Coleman now almost 50 votes down, any reasonably random pool of ballots (like those wrongly rejected absentee ballots) is statistically unlikely to provide him with enough extra votes to make up the margin.
Meanwhile, U.S. Sen. Klobuchar told the Star Tribune the Senate should seat the man who has more votes after the State Canvassing Board certifies the election — and that man seems likely to be Franken. If Franken does assume his first elective office after a close election, he’d have that in common with Klobuchar. She narrowly won her first race 10 years ago, for Hennepin County Attorney, by a margin of 3,740 votes, avoiding an automatic recount by only three-tenths of a percent, or 1,525 votes.














17 Comments »
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
Not too difficult. ALL ballots should be counted. The courts should stay out of it and not get involved. It is the peole’s vote that should count and only the people. A handful of judges on the court in this case should not decide.It causes cionfusion
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
Since Franken is leading, he could ask to stop all counting right now. That would be hypocritical, but politically might let him win. He and his supporters need to point out that he’s insisting on counting all legal votes, even at the risk of his slim lead. Statistically he’s likely to gain if all 1346 are counted, but he doesn’t know for sure. The public needs to know he’s putting this principle of counting every vote above his obvious interest in counting no more votes now that he’s ahead.
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
you say “the public needs to know he’s putting principle first” Are you really that naive?
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
Forgive my naivety, but what sinister motivation should be read into Franken’s position?
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
I’m just curious–does anyone know what’s so special about the 136 ballots Norm’s campaign wants to count? Gold plated, are they?
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 5:27 pm
Obviously, the folks in Minnesota watch too much TV and do not separate “reality” TV and reality. No matter who wins, Minnesota should take a cold shower and think about itself.
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 5:33 pm
Clearly Coleman realizes he has lost the election, and now wants to only count 136 (10%) of the absentee ballots, because he has knows that those 136 ballots came from heavily Republican districts. And of course Franken is going to take the high road and insist that all legally submitted ballots be counted, since he knows that with the majority of the votes having been cast for him, that as long as the Repulicans are not allowed to cherry pick which votes will be counted, he will finish this election as the winner.
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Al frankens a dick….
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Time to count and tell the court to f off. I do not care who says do not count my vote, Franken,
Coleman or some other court of a holes… Count them all and let God sort it out.
It is not up to the candidates or the court to decide who gets to vote, that was already
done BEFORE THE ELECTION. It is time to count the votes that were cast
Election board, get some stones and count now.
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 6:33 pm
SINCE WHEN DO WE IN ANY STATE NOT COUNT ALL VOTES?COLEMAN WANTS TO COUNT ONLY 10% OF THE 1346 VOTES CAST? WHAT A JOKE.WHY IS HE AFRAID TO COUNT ALL VOTES CAST?
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
According to the STrib, Coleman has his own mysterious list of 650 ballots he wants counted. Doesn’t say whether these are a subset of the 1346 identified by the counties, or where he came up with these.
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 6:52 pm
I am very happy this crap has moved on to you guys. I live here in Florida and think that both of the candidates fighting over these votes are complete douchebags but I don’t fault you for the stalemate that has insued based on a hack comedian running against a known washington political “insider”. godd luck from us here in sunny Florida (77 today and sunny….)
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 6:59 pm
You guys really need to get better informed. It’s not so simple as to say, “Just count all the ballots.” Do you count ballots thought to be duplicate? Do you automatically count all the ballots in the so called “fifth pile” which do not meet one of the absentee exclusion criteria? Does anyone besides to county polling judge review the inclusion/exclusion criteria? What if a ballot is in the so called “wrongly excluded fifth pile” but clearly has a valid exclusion criteria such as non-matching signatures; does this ballot get counted just because the county polling judge said it was wrongly excluded. Also, there are several web site which are posting PDFs of many of the “challenged” ballots. Having gone through many of them, it is obviously a VERY tricky thing to decide whether a ballot was for Franken, Coleman, or neither. Some ballot sheets were apparently extremely poor copies of an original with marking ovals that could barely be seen, if at all. (There needs to be a law saying that all official ballots must be printed by professional printers, with no photocopies allowed.) Some people obviously marked the ballots as best they could, with the election committee having to make guesses at the voter’s “intent.” Now, I’ll tell you; I’m watching all of this from Tennessee, and I’m impressed with the care that the election committee and the Minnesota Supreme Court appear to be taking to get this thing right. Clearly, Franken and Coleman are both jockeying to get the advantage; who can blame them. However, stay informed and give the process the benefit of the doubt.
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 7:04 pm
Jake seems really intelligent. Also, no politician is looking out for the principles. Franken wants to win just as much as Coleman and will rape your mother to get that last vote.
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 11:46 pm
bob and whitfield, since by your admission you don’t live in Minnesota, and by your comments you don’t know squat, get lost.
Interpreter, I can’t tell if you’re in Minnesota or not. You’re just an asshole.
Comment posted December 30, 2008 @ 4:14 am
I have to disagree with bob. Any recount is by its nature a messy situation, but this one conducted in Minnesota has been conducted as civilly and transparently as possible. Unless, of course, he is referring to the two candidates. In that case, I would just observe that they seem to be on a par with most of our legislators, who have been asleep at the switch on economic and executive issues. We could all stand for a little cleansing . . .
Comment posted December 30, 2008 @ 6:48 am
i do not understand why all of the uncounted absentee votes that were mistakenly rejected are not counted. i think the court made a big mistake when they asked both camps to agree on the ballots to count, they must have known that both sides would try to cherry pick. franken is right on this, count all of them, to do any less would rob the voters who had their ballots rejected by the counties.
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