Fred Phelps Is Coming

Will he show? I’ve followed this creep for years. He’s showed up at the funerals of people who have died of AIDS, or been murdered for being LGBT. And most recently, he’s been picketing the funerals of American troops.

One thing though. The Phelps’ often say they are going to picket somewhere, and then never show up.

We have a law against this now. http://www.house.leg…

Exactly And I’ve seen some people questioning whether our new law covers all funerals and not just those of troops killed int he line of duty. It does indeed cover all funerals in Minnesota.

Here’s what the MN chapter of the Patriot Guard sez From an e-mail:

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Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

We, like all Minnesotans and most Americans, all are grieving for and with the families of everyone affected by the tragedy of the bridge collapse and pray those affected will find comfort knowing that they are all in our thoughts and prayers.

Just think We’re all in agreement on something.

100% in agreement!

Fred Phelps Protest I am disgusted by the disrespect Fred Phelps and the WBB has and continues to show towards America.

The BBC did an excellent documentary on Phelps entitled “The Most Hated Family in America”.  I think most people would be shocked to learn that they do not want to “convert” people to their beliefs, but rather believe that they are the only people going to Heaven and thereby everyone else is going to Hell.  Harboring this belief allows them to gain a great amount of enjoyment over the misery and torment of other people. 

The other scary thing about Phelps’ clan is that they are putting members of their family thru law school in an attempt to usurp or cause chaos in America’s justice system.

What Would Jesus Do? This type of activity genuinely puzzles me. It makes me wonder “What would Jesus do?”

It seems to me that such protests deliberately attempt to victimize those poor persons who have already suffered a devastating blow. I don’t think Jesus would do that, or advise it.

It seems to me that such protests “use” the victims to foment anger and hatred. I don’t recall that Jesus EVER did that.

It seems to me quite arrogant to attribute opposition to their beliefs to these people and their friends and relatives simply because a loved one has been hurt or killed. No-one has ever pointed out to me that Jesus was arrogant, though he may have seemed so to those who were criticized (very gently, most of the time) by him.

It all makes me wonder whether these activities come from Christian Faith or from some other, less honorable source.

Wow Wow. Minnesota: “Land of the Sodomite Damned”? That’s a new one. I laughed a lot at this article, more at the subject than anything.

I really must say it seems like this group is reaching for straws and just picking up on whatever is in the national news, especially something that would allow them to boycott a funeral, a guaranteed way to get in the newspaper and get attention. It’s sad, really, that they would boycott the funerals of people who have nothing to do with their message just to get in the news coverage. Seriously, they managed to get a whole documentary on themselves? It amazes me what people will do for a little bit of attention, even if it’s negative reinforcement. Minnesota just seems like a random location to boycott. I mean, I think we’re often considered a more liberal state, but usually there are other places that seem more interesting to target as evil and sinful…not that these people seem to have any clue what Minnesotans are like. I’m fairly sure the only reason Minnesota was chosen for the label “Land of the Sodomite Damned” was because of the bridge and nothing else. It became international news, therefore anything done regarding the bridge would become news as well.

With that said, am I the only one who is VERY tempted to tell them that the signs they use sound a like like the Muslim extremists? I mean, I was under the impression that most (if not all) western religions were quite antagonistic towards the Muslim religion in general (no offense is meant to anyone by this comment, especially since I know there are varying degrees of faith within every religion from loosely believing to extremists and everywhere in between).

Just to see what they would say of course…I have a weird sense of humor that way. Of course, more than likely they would tell me I was going to hell, though it’s unlikely I would escape a group like this without them already telling me that. Whatever, I guess. I just wish people would be more accepting of the right all people have to maintain their own beliefs. I may disagree with someone’s beliefs,  but I still respect the person and their choices. I feel it’s not for me to dictate how others should live their lives, especially since I dislike people attempting to tell me how to think/act/feel/etc.

Not to nitpick… ..but you said “I was under the impression that most (if not all) western religions were quite antagonistic towards the Muslim religion in general.”  And considering that Islam is a ‘western religion’ not all feel antagonistic towards them.  It is not surprising in the very least that these WBC folk look and act just like Muslim extremists because they are simply Christian extremists.  If you take an objective look at the three major western religions you realize the parallels are uncanny, yet they always seem to be at each others throats.

This tragedy is not about punishment or belief systems but simply about America’s infrastructural integrity.  Corners may have been cut and quality could have been marginalized.  I would suggest that people call their local representatives and voice concerns about infrastructure and other important issues instead of letting these extremists be glorified in their current media attention.  We recently had a vital road collapse in my home town of St. Cloud, due to leaking sewer that caused the road to sink twelve feet into the ground.  Its not just bridges, we need to express concern for our safety on the roads we travel every day.

Will he show? I've followed this creep for years. He's showed up at the funerals of people who have died of AIDS, or been murdered for being LGBT. And most recently, he's been picketing the funerals of American troops.

One thing though. The Phelps' often say they are going to picket somewhere, and then never show up.

We have a law against this now. http://www.house.leg…

Exactly And I've seen some people questioning whether our new law covers all funerals and not just those of troops killed int he line of duty. It does indeed cover all funerals in Minnesota.

Here's what the MN chapter of the Patriot Guard sez From an e-mail:

———————————-

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

We, like all Minnesotans and most Americans, all are grieving for and with the families of everyone affected by the tragedy of the bridge collapse and pray those affected will find comfort knowing that they are all in our thoughts and prayers.

While we feel sadness for our loss, we also feel sadness and disgust for those in this country who feel the need to use this tragedy for their own gain.  These are truly reprehensible acts by people who use the First Amendment right to free speech to further their cause.

As our Mission Statement reads, our main mission is to attend the funeral services of fallen American heroes as invited guests of the family . Each mission we undertake has two basic objectives.

1. Show our sincere respect for our fallen heroes, their families, and their communities.

2. Shield the mourning family and their friends from interruptions created by any protester or group of protesters.

Understanding that mission statement it is the feeling of the Board of Directors that in spite of the threat of protesters, this falls outside of the stated mission of the Patriot Guard Riders. We are not a counter-protest group, and our missions exist to honor the service and sacrifice of those who have served in the US Armed Forces.

We are unsure at this time, if there were any veterans involved in this event and we pray none were.  If so and if we are invited by the family to attend the services, we will do our utmost to show our honor and respect for that fallen veteran.

Thank you again for your concern and willingness to share that with us.

One final thing I should bring to your attention: Minnesota has a state statute restricting protests of any sort within 500 feet of any funeral, memorial service, procession, or burial, beginning one hour prior to the start and ending one hour after conclusion of these services. Anyone participating in a protest or counter-protest in violation of that law could be subject to arrest right along with the WBC. This is one of several reasons why we only attend Veteran's funerals as invited guests of the family. If we show up uninvited we're no better than the thugs from KS.

Respects,

–

Nate “Birdie” Zenker

Southeast Metro Ride Captain

Minnesota Membership Coordinator

Coordinator – Red Bull Welcome Home

Member – Red Knights MC, MN 4

Just think We're all in agreement on something.

100% in agreement!

Fred Phelps Protest I am disgusted by the disrespect Fred Phelps and the WBB has and continues to show towards America.

The BBC did an excellent documentary on Phelps entitled “The Most Hated Family in America”.  I think most people would be shocked to learn that they do not want to “convert” people to their beliefs, but rather believe that they are the only people going to Heaven and thereby everyone else is going to Hell.  Harboring this belief allows them to gain a great amount of enjoyment over the misery and torment of other people. 

The other scary thing about Phelps' clan is that they are putting members of their family thru law school in an attempt to usurp or cause chaos in America's justice system.

What Would Jesus Do? This type of activity genuinely puzzles me. It makes me wonder “What would Jesus do?”

It seems to me that such protests deliberately attempt to victimize those poor persons who have already suffered a devastating blow. I don't think Jesus would do that, or advise it.

It seems to me that such protests “use” the victims to foment anger and hatred. I don't recall that Jesus EVER did that.

It seems to me quite arrogant to attribute opposition to their beliefs to these people and their friends and relatives simply because a loved one has been hurt or killed. No-one has ever pointed out to me that Jesus was arrogant, though he may have seemed so to those who were criticized (very gently, most of the time) by him.

It all makes me wonder whether these activities come from Christian Faith or from some other, less honorable source.

Wow Wow. Minnesota: “Land of the Sodomite Damned”? That's a new one. I laughed a lot at this article, more at the subject than anything.

I really must say it seems like this group is reaching for straws and just picking up on whatever is in the national news, especially something that would allow them to boycott a funeral, a guaranteed way to get in the newspaper and get attention. It's sad, really, that they would boycott the funerals of people who have nothing to do with their message just to get in the news coverage. Seriously, they managed to get a whole documentary on themselves? It amazes me what people will do for a little bit of attention, even if it's negative reinforcement. Minnesota just seems like a random location to boycott. I mean, I think we're often considered a more liberal state, but usually there are other places that seem more interesting to target as evil and sinful…not that these people seem to have any clue what Minnesotans are like. I'm fairly sure the only reason Minnesota was chosen for the label “Land of the Sodomite Damned” was because of the bridge and nothing else. It became international news, therefore anything done regarding the bridge would become news as well.

With that said, am I the only one who is VERY tempted to tell them that the signs they use sound a like like the Muslim extremists? I mean, I was under the impression that most (if not all) western religions were quite antagonistic towards the Muslim religion in general (no offense is meant to anyone by this comment, especially since I know there are varying degrees of faith within every religion from loosely believing to extremists and everywhere in between).

Just to see what they would say of course…I have a weird sense of humor that way. Of course, more than likely they would tell me I was going to hell, though it's unlikely I would escape a group like this without them already telling me that. Whatever, I guess. I just wish people would be more accepting of the right all people have to maintain their own beliefs. I may disagree with someone's beliefs,  but I still respect the person and their choices. I feel it's not for me to dictate how others should live their lives, especially since I dislike people attempting to tell me how to think/act/feel/etc.

Not to nitpick… ..but you said “I was under the impression that most (if not all) western religions were quite antagonistic towards the Muslim religion in general.”  And considering that Islam is a 'western religion' not all feel antagonistic towards them.  It is not surprising in the very least that these WBC folk look and act just like Muslim extremists because they are simply Christian extremists.  If you take an objective look at the three major western religions you realize the parallels are uncanny, yet they always seem to be at each others throats.

This tragedy is not about punishment or belief systems but simply about America's infrastructural integrity.  Corners may have been cut and quality could have been marginalized.  I would suggest that people call their local representatives and voice concerns about infrastructure and other important issues instead of letting these extremists be glorified in their current media attention.  We recently had a vital road collapse in my home town of St. Cloud, due to leaking sewer that caused the road to sink twelve feet into the ground.  Its not just bridges, we need to express concern for our safety on the roads we travel every day.