Comments on: Franken already a 2:1 favorite to win re-election in 2014 http://minnesotaindependent.com/22143/franken-already-a-21-favorite-to-win-re-election-in-2014 News. Politics. Media. Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:48:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: ted http://minnesotaindependent.com/22143/franken-already-a-21-favorite-to-win-re-election-in-2014/comment-page-1#comment-22448 ted Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:34:35 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=22143#comment-22448 I just read this great blog on freedomhaters.org about Al Franken versus Ann Coulter. At one time they were head-to-head political rivals, now Franken has got his place in Senate and Ann Coulter is banned from NBC. You should see the Coulter videos of her lowest moments. Check it out here: http://freedomhaters.org/content/franken-verses-coulter I just read this great blog on freedomhaters.org about Al Franken versus Ann Coulter.
At one time they were head-to-head political rivals, now Franken has got his place in Senate and Ann Coulter is banned from NBC. You should see the Coulter videos of her lowest moments.

Check it out here:

http://freedomhaters.org/content/franken-verses-coulter

]]> By: bsimon http://minnesotaindependent.com/22143/franken-already-a-21-favorite-to-win-re-election-in-2014/comment-page-1#comment-22312 bsimon Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:36:17 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=22143#comment-22312 What Eric F overlooks is that Republican opposition is irrelevant to Franken's reelection. Republicans wouldn't likely vote for him in 6 years anyway, whether they view this election as 'stolen' or not. The more relevant group is the set of swing voters that might vote R, might vote D and might vote I. Look at the 2006 numbers for Klobuchar compared to Pawlenty's numbers that year, to Obama's in MN this year, to how Franken/Coleman did. The hardcore party animals don't decide elections, the swing voters do. To put it another way, if party anger decided elections, the generic D would have slaughtered Coleman this year, to reclaim Wellstone's seat. Seeing how that didn't happen, it seems there's more at play than who's mad. What Eric F overlooks is that Republican opposition is irrelevant to Franken’s reelection. Republicans wouldn’t likely vote for him in 6 years anyway, whether they view this election as ‘stolen’ or not. The more relevant group is the set of swing voters that might vote R, might vote D and might vote I. Look at the 2006 numbers for Klobuchar compared to Pawlenty’s numbers that year, to Obama’s in MN this year, to how Franken/Coleman did. The hardcore party animals don’t decide elections, the swing voters do.

To put it another way, if party anger decided elections, the generic D would have slaughtered Coleman this year, to reclaim Wellstone’s seat. Seeing how that didn’t happen, it seems there’s more at play than who’s mad.

]]> By: Eric Ferguson http://minnesotaindependent.com/22143/franken-already-a-21-favorite-to-win-re-election-in-2014/comment-page-1#comment-22311 Eric Ferguson Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:20:10 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=22143#comment-22311 He completely leaves out, not that I know how to quantify it, how irate Republicans are about what they perceive as election theft. Look at the comments they leave on newspaper articles, or their commentary on conservative blogs, and the tin foil hats are on and duct-taped to their heads. Nonetheless, as opposite to fact as their assertions are, they firmly believe them and will be motivated to beat Franken more than other DFL senators. I point last year's governor election in Washington state, in which the Republicans were motivated enough to make it close in a Democratic year. It wasn't recount-close this time, but they are still spurred on by the 2004 recount. They will use this recount the same way, and DFLers won't talk sense in to them. We do however have to get ahead of their attempts to convince people outside the conservative base that something untoward happened. He completely leaves out, not that I know how to quantify it, how irate Republicans are about what they perceive as election theft. Look at the comments they leave on newspaper articles, or their commentary on conservative blogs, and the tin foil hats are on and duct-taped to their heads. Nonetheless, as opposite to fact as their assertions are, they firmly believe them and will be motivated to beat Franken more than other DFL senators. I point last year’s governor election in Washington state, in which the Republicans were motivated enough to make it close in a Democratic year. It wasn’t recount-close this time, but they are still spurred on by the 2004 recount. They will use this recount the same way, and DFLers won’t talk sense in to them. We do however have to get ahead of their attempts to convince people outside the conservative base that something untoward happened.

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