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	<title>Comments on: Fox uses debunked &#8216;terrorism expert&#8217; to slam Rep. Ellison&#8217;s trip to Mecca</title>
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		<title>By: Austrliantoday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austrliantoday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What to believe from fox??? Bill really oh lie factor is there!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What to believe from fox??? Bill really oh lie factor is there!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Austrliantoday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austrliantoday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faux, How long will it continue grimming someonw who have even no idea what you report??? Don&#039;t you open your eyes that world are fed up with ur lie, shouting the guest speaker, putting word on thier mouth, cutting off micrphone, slamming Islam for what more conversion is growing,unanimously, today we are not unawred of ur lie to believe whatever you expose us!!!shame on faux lie!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faux, How long will it continue grimming someonw who have even no idea what you report??? Don&#8217;t you open your eyes that world are fed up with ur lie, shouting the guest speaker, putting word on thier mouth, cutting off micrphone, slamming Islam for what more conversion is growing,unanimously, today we are not unawred of ur lie to believe whatever you expose us!!!shame on faux lie!!!</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans keep saying what they want and muslims in the United States continue to do what they want. The U.S. government is even funding the private muslim schools whereby new generations of radicals are home grown. 

The U.S. governments in the past, present ,and the future are to blame because those who claim to represent the American citizens are but businessmen who look towards the Middle East to make money for their oil companies and all other businesses they have in order to increase their wealth at the expense of the gullible Americans who do not know what is going around them and all that they care about, is to have their beer and their TV. 

A country that its citizens do not care whether their country is corrupted from within by its own so-called politicians and representatives, must accept whatever comes to them because they are not doing any thing about it .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans keep saying what they want and muslims in the United States continue to do what they want. The U.S. government is even funding the private muslim schools whereby new generations of radicals are home grown. </p>
<p>The U.S. governments in the past, present ,and the future are to blame because those who claim to represent the American citizens are but businessmen who look towards the Middle East to make money for their oil companies and all other businesses they have in order to increase their wealth at the expense of the gullible Americans who do not know what is going around them and all that they care about, is to have their beer and their TV. </p>
<p>A country that its citizens do not care whether their country is corrupted from within by its own so-called politicians and representatives, must accept whatever comes to them because they are not doing any thing about it .</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Emerson: “Wowser!” &#124; Islamophobia Today Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Emerson: “Wowser!” &#124; Islamophobia Today Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for evidence, Emerson&#8217;s technique of choice is to make up the evidence as he goes along,  Andy Birkey of the Minnesota Independent notes: Emerson has a long history of getting into hot water over his anti-Muslim rhetoric. In the 1998 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for evidence, Emerson&#8217;s technique of choice is to make up the evidence as he goes along,  Andy Birkey of the Minnesota Independent notes: Emerson has a long history of getting into hot water over his anti-Muslim rhetoric. In the 1998 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Radio Jihad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radio Jihad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Non-Muslim it is illegal in Sharia Law for me to set foot in the cities of Mecca or Medina Saudi Arabia.  

I&#039;m sorry but that is as bigoted, separatist, and mean spirited as it gets.  Why does the Saudi Government and Islamists around the world support this bigoted practice?

Imagine the negative press the Vatican would get, and rightfully so, if they only allowed Catholics to set foot in Vatican City.  Imagine if a Catholic U.S. elected official visited the Vatican when all his/her Non-Catholic constituents would be arrested in Vatican City for the crime of not being Catholic.

Why do 501c3 Mosques all around the U.S. also support this bigoted practice against all Non-Muslims.

I could site you Qur&#039;an verses that instruct the Saudi Arabians and fellow Islamists to take this outrageous stand against all Non-Muslims.

It is high time American Muslims, all U.S. politicians, and clergy demand these bigoted views change and no longer support the Hajj and demand Saudi Arabia open up Mecca and Medina to people of all faiths - not arrest them on the spot.

Is this concept that hard to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Non-Muslim it is illegal in Sharia Law for me to set foot in the cities of Mecca or Medina Saudi Arabia.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but that is as bigoted, separatist, and mean spirited as it gets.  Why does the Saudi Government and Islamists around the world support this bigoted practice?</p>
<p>Imagine the negative press the Vatican would get, and rightfully so, if they only allowed Catholics to set foot in Vatican City.  Imagine if a Catholic U.S. elected official visited the Vatican when all his/her Non-Catholic constituents would be arrested in Vatican City for the crime of not being Catholic.</p>
<p>Why do 501c3 Mosques all around the U.S. also support this bigoted practice against all Non-Muslims.</p>
<p>I could site you Qur&#8217;an verses that instruct the Saudi Arabians and fellow Islamists to take this outrageous stand against all Non-Muslims.</p>
<p>It is high time American Muslims, all U.S. politicians, and clergy demand these bigoted views change and no longer support the Hajj and demand Saudi Arabia open up Mecca and Medina to people of all faiths &#8211; not arrest them on the spot.</p>
<p>Is this concept that hard to understand?</p>
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		<title>By: PRCS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRCS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John VanderHorck
Comment posted January 10, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

&quot;An American citizen has no right to practice a religion that I disagree with.&quot;

No, John. No one in this country has the right to PRACTICE those tenets of their respective belief system which violate the United States Constitution and/or American law.

One can believe whatever one wants. But the line draws at attempts to force those beliefs upon others and attempts to replace our Constitution with religious laws.

We don&#039;t punitively amputate people&#039;s hands here, or stone adulterers, or allow polygamy or kill apostoates or...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John VanderHorck<br />
Comment posted January 10, 2009 @ 9:15 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;An American citizen has no right to practice a religion that I disagree with.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, John. No one in this country has the right to PRACTICE those tenets of their respective belief system which violate the United States Constitution and/or American law.</p>
<p>One can believe whatever one wants. But the line draws at attempts to force those beliefs upon others and attempts to replace our Constitution with religious laws.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t punitively amputate people&#8217;s hands here, or stone adulterers, or allow polygamy or kill apostoates or&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there were hundreds, thousands, even millions of Steve Emersons in this country. The fact that there is only one speaks to the fragility of American security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there were hundreds, thousands, even millions of Steve Emersons in this country. The fact that there is only one speaks to the fragility of American security.</p>
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		<title>By: Mobedda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mobedda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mr. VanderHorck. Although the tenor of this &quot;debate&quot; is alarming enough, the content is thunderously, staggeringly, depressingly, yet proudly unintelligent. These same bigots think &quot;they&quot; hate &quot;us&quot; because they&#039;re jealous, when I, as a fellow American, have a very hard time remembering not to let hate take over when I read this nakedly jingoistic and xenophobic idiocy. 

[NOT a good advertisement for Minnesota, folks. Think about it.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mr. VanderHorck. Although the tenor of this &#8220;debate&#8221; is alarming enough, the content is thunderously, staggeringly, depressingly, yet proudly unintelligent. These same bigots think &#8220;they&#8221; hate &#8220;us&#8221; because they&#8217;re jealous, when I, as a fellow American, have a very hard time remembering not to let hate take over when I read this nakedly jingoistic and xenophobic idiocy. </p>
<p>[NOT a good advertisement for Minnesota, folks. Think about it.]</p>
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		<title>By: John VanderHorck</title>
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		<dc:creator>John VanderHorck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting series of questions.  It seems to boil down to this:  Can an American citizen practice his religion in this or any other country?  It seems that the majority of posters or should we say poseurs say NO!  An American citizen has no right to practice a religion that I disagree with.  

I note further that it is because he is either getting money I don&#039;t get or he is wrong and I&#039;m right!  By my count more posts were about mone than faith although a whole lot seened to bring up both.
This seems rather strange when we righteous remember Moses&#039; (Musa&#039;s) reaction to those who worshipped Baal on his descent from the mountain with the commandments.

If I remember those commandments they tell us to honor the one true God.  They do not tell us that we already are worshipping the one true God and to hate and kill those who we think are wrong.  I&#039;ve noticed that God NEVER told us who was right and who was wrong, its always been a man.  If you believe in a day of judgement, you also KNOW there will be a lot of people who will be very suprised how they will spend eternity, very suprised.  Will you be one? No of course not!  Tonight I saw a man who raped, tortured, and killed a woman for sexual thrills on TV.  After beating the murder rap the pictures he took recording his crimes where discovered and he had to do a few uears for perjury.  He found Jesus in jail and belives he is saved.  How very handy, how very nice of God to agree with our position on the issues.

I, like you, know that God agrees with me, always has, always will.  He&#039;d be a fool not to believe in the USA, land of the scared, home of the true believers!

And my God can beat up your God with one arm tied behind his back!  Yes, that&#039;s right children &quot;GOTT MIT UNS&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting series of questions.  It seems to boil down to this:  Can an American citizen practice his religion in this or any other country?  It seems that the majority of posters or should we say poseurs say NO!  An American citizen has no right to practice a religion that I disagree with.  </p>
<p>I note further that it is because he is either getting money I don&#8217;t get or he is wrong and I&#8217;m right!  By my count more posts were about mone than faith although a whole lot seened to bring up both.<br />
This seems rather strange when we righteous remember Moses&#8217; (Musa&#8217;s) reaction to those who worshipped Baal on his descent from the mountain with the commandments.</p>
<p>If I remember those commandments they tell us to honor the one true God.  They do not tell us that we already are worshipping the one true God and to hate and kill those who we think are wrong.  I&#8217;ve noticed that God NEVER told us who was right and who was wrong, its always been a man.  If you believe in a day of judgement, you also KNOW there will be a lot of people who will be very suprised how they will spend eternity, very suprised.  Will you be one? No of course not!  Tonight I saw a man who raped, tortured, and killed a woman for sexual thrills on TV.  After beating the murder rap the pictures he took recording his crimes where discovered and he had to do a few uears for perjury.  He found Jesus in jail and belives he is saved.  How very handy, how very nice of God to agree with our position on the issues.</p>
<p>I, like you, know that God agrees with me, always has, always will.  He&#8217;d be a fool not to believe in the USA, land of the scared, home of the true believers!</p>
<p>And my God can beat up your God with one arm tied behind his back!  Yes, that&#8217;s right children &#8220;GOTT MIT UNS&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: isa kocher</title>
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		<dc:creator>isa kocher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can try to change the subject, you can try to spin it with your pure first amendment rights blather, you can make every specious argument you can think of in an attempt to protect your precious world view.&quot;  First amendment blather! It&#039;s heartening to know our citizen&#039;s values are in the right place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can try to change the subject, you can try to spin it with your pure first amendment rights blather, you can make every specious argument you can think of in an attempt to protect your precious world view.&#8221;  First amendment blather! It&#8217;s heartening to know our citizen&#8217;s values are in the right place.</p>
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