Comments on: Senate election trial court says system’s OK, won’t review most kinds of ballots

By: How Many

How Many — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:32:00 +0000

How many votes are we talking about in each grouping?

I would like to know what classes of votes cause the most problems and spoilage

By: Jude

Jude — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:56:31 +0000

Glynis, I read it much the same way you do. Except, possibly with regards to UOCAVA postcards.

By: Glynis

Glynis — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:34:41 +0000

Elias is actually saying 17 of the 19 and I tend to agree with him. The court was clear that non-registered voters aren’t valid and that all applicable laws had to be followed. The law also requires an application with signature to match against. The ruling specifically discusses that. So the categories not mentioned in the ruling but that still wouldn’t apply are:

- Returned by a non-registered voter in an absentee ballot return envelope on which no box in the proof of residence portion of the envelope is checked by the witness. (voter not registered, witness issue moot)

- Submitted from overseas where there is no evidence that the voter submitted a Federal Post Card Application or absentee ballot application. (application required by law for signature match)

- Cast by a voter where there is no independent evidence that the voter completed an absentee ballot application. (application required by law for signature match)

- Submitted in an absentee ballot return envelope in which the witness certification is signed by a non-notary witness who failed to provide a street address. (street address required to make sure witness is MN resident. Ballot instructions are explicit on that point)

- Cast by a non-registered voter who was not registered to vote in the precinct encompassing the voter’s address on the absentee ballot return envelope and absentee ballot application. (not registered to vote in the precinct was addressed in ruling as not legally cast)

- Cast by a voter not registered to vote within the precinct in which he or she resides. (not registered to vote in precinct was addressed in ruling as not legally cast).

The footnote in the ruling related to not registered in precinct is that if the voter had completed application and ballot envelope with the correct address in precinct in which they live and the election official sent the wrong ballot then the ballot could be counted for races not affected by precinct, in other words the senate race could be counted).

By: Jeff

Jeff — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:57:43 +0000

Bagdad Bob and Fritz Knaak: Seperated at birth

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By: Minnesota Central

Minnesota Central — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:59:33 +0000

First off, let’s acknolwedge the work of the judges. Since all three signed the ruling and there was no notation of a disagreement that indicates agreement. Also, their explanation was concise and easily understood by the layman (me).

Second, isn’t it now a small pool of “questionalble” ballots that can be offered for review ? It seemed as if most of Coleman’s time has been spent on catagories that are now inadmissable.

By: Court: “No systemic problem of disenfranchisement” at MNpublius.com

Court: “No systemic problem of disenfranchisement” at MNpublius.com — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:55 +0000

[...] The Minnesota Independent breaks down the court order into which rejected absentee ballots would n…may still be considered. As much as Team Coleman wants to overturn the election results, it’s good to see that the courts are leaning towards making sure only legally cast votes are counted. Here’s two examples of types of ballots the court may still consider: Returned by a nonregistered voter in an absentee ballot return envelope on which no box in the proof of residence portion of the envelope is checked by the witness. [...]

By: Nixon of the Lizard People

Nixon of the Lizard People — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:57:27 +0000

Elias is saying that 1 more of these 12 categories is ALSO excluded by this order though implication. I’m not sure I followed his press release, but I think Elias might have been talking about this one:

- Cast by a voter where there is no independent evidence that the voter completed an absentee ballot application.

Can someone official figure out what Elias was talking about, and update this article?