Comments on: Timing suspect as Pioneer Press says Senate election ‘tie’ calls for ‘do-over’ http://minnesotaindependent.com/26579/pioneer-press-senate-election-tie-do-over-editorial News. Politics. Media. Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:48:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Chris Steller http://minnesotaindependent.com/26579/pioneer-press-senate-election-tie-do-over-editorial/comment-page-1#comment-29421 Chris Steller Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:15:09 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=26579#comment-29421 Sorry, Barth, the Pioneer Press provides a lot of its content free for only two weeks. I think that's the problem. Sorry, Barth, the Pioneer Press provides a lot of its content free for only two weeks. I think that’s the problem.

]]> By: Barth http://minnesotaindependent.com/26579/pioneer-press-senate-election-tie-do-over-editorial/comment-page-1#comment-29420 Barth Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:54:53 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=26579#comment-29420 Did they pull the article? Or is the link faulty? Did they pull the article? Or is the link faulty?

]]> By: E.R. Murrow http://minnesotaindependent.com/26579/pioneer-press-senate-election-tie-do-over-editorial/comment-page-1#comment-25053 E.R. Murrow Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:40:32 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=26579#comment-25053 Pie-in-Ear Press Editorial Page Editor Mike Burbach couldn't edit The Weekly Reader. Remember, this is the goy who hired Craig Leftovers as his right-hand boy. Pie-in-Ear Press Editorial Page Editor Mike Burbach couldn’t edit The Weekly Reader. Remember, this is the goy who hired Craig Leftovers as his right-hand boy.

]]> By: BoredByLiars http://minnesotaindependent.com/26579/pioneer-press-senate-election-tie-do-over-editorial/comment-page-1#comment-25042 BoredByLiars Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:37:27 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=26579#comment-25042 Let's illustrate: - you have a dog - you say to your wife, 'if this dog was a cat, it would meow' - [asks dog to meow, it barks] - wife says, ' you need a new dog' Let’s illustrate:
- you have a dog
- you say to your wife, ‘if this dog was a cat, it would meow’
- [asks dog to meow, it barks]
- wife says, ‘ you need a new dog’

]]> By: BoredByLiars http://minnesotaindependent.com/26579/pioneer-press-senate-election-tie-do-over-editorial/comment-page-1#comment-25038 BoredByLiars Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:04:10 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=26579#comment-25038 As pointed out on their own comment thread, the main problem with the PP editorial is the category error of defining the election as a measurement instrument for voter preference. If you want to measure voter preference, use a random sample survey done properly. An election is a statutorily defined method for picking a winner among candidates for an office. Those candidates spent countless hours and dollars making sure the voter who turn out are anything but random. We have a universe of ballots and a method for counting them. There will be a winner. There is even a method for resolving a tie (coin toss). The entire idea of "statistical tie" is misapplied. We do not have a statistical question, but a legal one. As pointed out on their own comment thread, the main problem with the PP editorial is the category error of defining the election as a measurement instrument for voter preference.

If you want to measure voter preference, use a random sample survey done properly.

An election is a statutorily defined method for picking a winner among candidates for an office. Those candidates spent countless hours and dollars making sure the voter who turn out are anything but random.

We have a universe of ballots and a method for counting them. There will be a winner. There is even a method for resolving a tie (coin toss). The entire idea of “statistical tie” is misapplied. We do not have a statistical question, but a legal one.

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