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The Minnesota Health Plan Act, a bill that would make the state the sole health insurance provider, had its first hearing in the House on Thursday, but the outcome wasn’t what supporters would have liked.
HF 135 was introduced by Rep. David Bly, DFL-Northfield, with a whopping 33 co-authors, all DFLers, and was heard in the Health Care and Human Services Policy and Oversight Committee, where the vote was tabled for lack of support.
The Minnesota Health Plan would essentially make the state into a health insurer, with premiums based on individuals’ ability to pay. Supporters say the bill would reduce costs, cover everyone and eliminate gaps in care when people are laid off.
At today’s hearing, health insurance industry representatives, Republicans and a few DFLers hammered on bill supporters, despite physicians and small business owners signaling the urgency of the issue.
Rep. Laura Brod, R-New Prague, started in on the bill with concerns that the oversight functions would violate providers’ privacy.
“I’m concerned about opening up somebody’s records just because they happen to be with the plan,” she said. She also had concerns with creating a health board that would set the standards for which treatments are medically necessary. “This board determines what [providers] would pay for.” It doesn’t take a big leap, she said, to say it could deny treatments to individuals.
Bly responded that the board wouldn’t review individual cases but would be responsible for setting policy for the plan. “I don’t think what you are worried about, this plan would do,” he said.
After those initial disagreements, supporters testified for the bill. Dr. Ed Ellinger of the University of Minnesota’s Boynton Health Service said that after 40 years of practicing medicine, he sees the need for change.
“Year after year, we call for reform, yet access to care has not changed,” he said. “After four decades of effort, what have we achieved?”
He said the clinic employs 20 people to handle just the insurance administration, which costs upwards of $250,000 a year.
“A national health system would be ideal, but Minnesotans cannot afford to wait for that to happen,” he said.
Dr. Mike Thorstenson, who took vacation time to testify as a constituent, said, “The Minnesota Health Plan is the only plan addressing the structural dysfunction of our health care system.”
He documented his struggle, his wife’s struggle, and the struggles of family friends when they were diagnosed with cancer and tried to navigate the insurance system to make sure treatments were covered — sometimes in mid-treatment.
He noted the plan’s mandate for all Minnesotans to have a primary physician to coordinate their health care. “There needs to be a system of care,” he said.
But Rep. Steve Gottwalt, R-St. Cloud, wasn’t buying it. He said the plan wouldn’t necessarily fix the issues Thorstenson addressed. “I’m part of a system, and I have been taken care of very well,” said Gottwalt, a remark that was met with boos and hisses from the packed hearing room.
Bob Sarnia, a publishing company owner from Northfield, spoke of how his company of five employees was stifled by health care costs. It costs him $60,000 a year to cover his employees and their families, he said.
“One of the reasons I am reluctant to hire new employees is that it might easily cost $15,000 a year or more [per employee]. My company’s health care premiums are the primary reason preventing me from hiring,” he said. “Small companies are being strangled by the costs.”
Elaine Torpet of Fertile, Minn., moved to the state from Canada when she married her husband. “I’ve tried for 47 years to gain back the kind of health insurance I gave up when I got married,” she said. “We are still where Canada was in 1867.”
Katherine Kmit of the Minnesota Council of Health Plans repeated her organization’s mantra: “Health care is not expensive because of insurance. Insurance is expensive because of health care,” she said. “Approaches like this bill are fundamentally flawed because it assumes health plans are the problem.”
She pointed to legislation and industry efforts to bring down administrative costs such as electronic record-keeping and administrative efficiency, all issues that the committee had addressed in the past.
But it was her final comment that sent the hearing room into a tizzy. To Bly she said she was sorry he wasn’t a member of the committee. “Maybe next year you can be on the health care committee and learn about those things that are happening.”
Kmit’s statement was met with gasps and boos from the audience.
Beth McMullen of the Minnesota Business Partnership spoke against the bill and in favor of a “market-based, patient-centered system.”
McMullen expressed concern over the business taxes contained in the bill. The Minnesota Business Partnership represents some of Minnesota’s largest corporations, and McMullen pointed to the fact that her clients have health insurance coverage for people in many states. She said she worried about how those corporations would navigate a drastic policy change in Minnesota.
But Rep. Tina Liebling, DFL-Rochester, got to the heart of the matter: Large corporations enjoy a competitive advantage over small businesses that would disappear under the health plan. She asked McMullen whether those corporations’ ability to provide comprehensive health care as a part of employment was an advantage.
“Yes, I do believe that recruitment and retention are helped by offering competitive health insurance to employees,” said McMullen.
Said Liebling: “I just want to make a point that I think there is a competitive disadvantage to those [businesses that can't afford comprehensive coverage] and I think it hurts small businesses in our state.”
While Republicans hammered supporters, many were glad to have the discussion. Rep. Jim Abeler, R-Anoka, told Bly, “I’ll give you credit for a great heart and good intent. But it’s a really hard topic and we are all looking for a model that could work. For people in the audience who are so eager to fix this … it can’t be free!”
Gottwalt told Bly, “I appreciate the effort. I don’t agree with it but I commend you for it. But this is a massive expansion of state government.”
In the end the bill was tabled and no vote was taken. Speculation was that not enough DFLers were sold on the bill, and that all Republicans would vote against it.
Rep. Julie Bunn, DFL-Lake Elmo, was one such member. She said she had concerns and wasn’t ready to support it.
“But we definitely share your commitment to fixing health care,” she told Bly.
Because the bill has been tabled, it will either be heard again in the same committee or be rolled into an omnibus bill later in the session.











8 Comments »
Comment posted February 26, 2009 @ 5:58 pm
I would like to have heard the names of the DFL members who were against this. It is time for Minnesota to lead the nation, as we have in the past. It is really important for the media to inform us of who stands in the way of progress on this issue.
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 10:02 am
“I’m part of a system, and I have been taken care of very well.”
Well, there it is. The un- and under-insured, who are suffering even as the rest of us think we are covered (possibly an illusion) are invisible.
The bill, the Minnesota Health Plan, was authored by Senator John Marty and carried in the House by Rep. David Bly. They deserve our thanks for being willing to recognize those among us who do not have the advantages some of the rest of us temporarily enjoy. I say temporarily because the system in which Rep. Gottwalt has such faith is crumbling under his feet. He just can’t see it.
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 10:47 am
How very sad that as a state we have the opportunity to finally lead the country in shaping the future of health care reform and we blow it. As the only industrialized nation in the world that does not provide this basic service to its citizens, it is a disgrace. Health care reform is the only sure fire way to solve our economic crisis and by fixing this mess, we provide for the first time the right of every citizen to have lifetime care that is affordable, accessible, price competitive and relieves businesses – both large and small – from this benefit burden.
Leadership is needed to fix our problems, not pandering.
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 11:13 am
there is no way to get the twisted warped hearts of republican party members to allow a community to care for itself. i’ve got mine, i’m ok, so who cares about you? if that’s the way you feel then you’re a republican.
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 12:13 pm
There is not a single comment in the article questioning the quality of the health care we receive. Every criticism relates to our system of reimbursement. Until we separate these things in our own minds, the insurance companies will be able to conflate the two ideas and continue to associate their names and their images with health care.
Insurance companies do not deliver health care. I have been a nurse for 35 years and have had healthcare coverage with every nursing job I have ever had. Not once in 35 years can I point to a single instance where an insurance company has had any impact whatsoever on the quality of the care I have received. The only interaction I have ever had with an insurance company was to either pay a premium or argue over a bill.
The insurance companies are huge money storage and distribution centers. They have a big loading dock in the back where money is hauled in, and a single window up front where a long line of hopeful health care providers waits while a receptionist with no medical knowledge decides whether or not to pay them for their services. There is also a helipad up on the roof where money goes out to lobbyists to make sure that there is never more than one teller window out front. Insurance company executives also use the helipad at times to remove some of the money to their own private off site storage facilities.
We don’t need health care reform, we need health care reimbursement reform. Of course the insurance companies will oppose this. Change sometimes hurts for a while. The arguments in favor of reform are so overwhelmingly in the public interest however, that it cannot ultimately be stopped. This is of immediate importance because, unlike Representative Gottwalt, many of his constituents don’t have a government job with tax supported health insurance and that number is growing rapidly by the day.
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:09 pm
Excellent comments by Ron Thiessen (above). Agree that one of the biggest obstacles to a comprehensive public debate on the full range of options (where single payer national health insurance should be the overwhelming choice) is that those who fear such a debate have been able to keep single payer on the sidelines. Much of this is because of fear-mongering by stating (falsely) that the government would take over all aspects of health care. [Even if that were so, it would be better than the current non-system where choices are made for most people, behind the closed doors of the insurance carriers.]
It is definitely time to keep pushing for a thorough debate that includes single payer national health insurance (statewide in meanwhile) as the fiscally responsible way to return medical decision making to individuals and their choice of providers.
John T Garland, MD
retired endocrinologist
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:38 pm
When someone cannot get pain medication for a serious wound because he did not have the money for the co-pay, when a person who has a broken leg cannot get into the emergency room without paying $50.00 immediately and the automobile manufacturing companies have millions of dollars of their members health care premiums or a contractual obligation to provide for health insurance for their retirees but now beg for more money from the government, who will ask the question: “What happens to the auto industry employees when the money runs out?” or “Who has money in their pocket for the co-pay?” and is able to pay it right now?
To answer many of our questions I recommend that we get in contact with the leadership of OWL-The voice of Midlife and Older Women: http://www.owl-national.org/Welcome.html. Also consider inviting Merton C. Bernstein, Coles Professor of Law Emeritus at Washington University in Saint Louis, a founding board member of the National Academy of Social Insurance and was the principal consultant to the National Commission of Social Security Reform. This organization has been working since 1980 and has accumulated lots of information and statistics and data and articles which, taken together, show how single payer is the only way to go.
So instead of re-inventing the proverbial wheel, let’s join together with similar groups and finally get something done. My respect for Senator Teddy Kennedy just went down when it was reported that he held closed door meeting with health insurance executives, some physicians and some citizens. I thought that he would not be on the health insurance payrolls. If he is not then he should distance himself from these organizations that will do about anything to keep the money flowing into their coffers. And that’s the truth! (Lilly Tomlin the telephone operator and other characters from the old Saturday Night Live.)
Comment posted March 2, 2009 @ 3:54 pm
“We are still where Canada was in 1867.” – That sounds about right. The Bad Guys, the insurance corporations who buy and sell our politicians, are quite happy with this arrangement.
And we will remain in 1867 until we finally gain some militancy around health care reform.
Bottom-up change requires the cajones to take on the Bad Guys, and it always begins in the streets. Where are the boycotts, sit-down strikes, and demonstrations?
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