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	<title>Comments on: Clock runs out on Franken-Coleman trial as teams&#8217; stars take final shots</title>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point--who gives a damn?</description>
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		<title>By: Karen Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MINNESOTA ... HELD HOSTAGE!  2009
ABCs Nightline launched with a graphic, (America Held HOSTAGE) when Iranian terrorists declared Americans working there to be PRISONERS.  A world SUPERPOWER --our hands tied; fellow citizens brutalized, tortured and imprisoned for more than a year.   Any American alive then was so ANGRY, most would have leveled IRAN without regret.
WELCOME to Iran 09 (MINNESOTA) held HOSTAGE by terrorists GOP &amp; NORM COLEMAN. Who care NOTHING of right/wrong or following RULES -- it&#039;s ONLY about getting their way. Salivating as they ARE for bush v gore REPLAY as IF that was a GOOD THING.
If they DISLIKE election results --take it to the Supreme Court.
MORE THAN 200-years of peaceful TRANSITION UNTIL THE new GOP 2000 and NOW: Minnesota 09.
Will we PERMIT them to hold this state HOSTAGE to GOP terrorism? Deliberately they are screwing Minnesota with IMPUNITY.
Everyone in this state should DEMAND the GOP release our senate seat. REFUSE to elect any Republican UNLESS the 3-judge panel findings ARE certified so our governance can go on.
ANY PARTY allowed to HOLD and entire state HOSTAGE should be viewed by EVERYONE as TANTAMOUNT TO what IRAN did to America 30-years ago,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MINNESOTA &#8230; HELD HOSTAGE!  2009<br />
ABCs Nightline launched with a graphic, (America Held HOSTAGE) when Iranian terrorists declared Americans working there to be PRISONERS.  A world SUPERPOWER &#8211;our hands tied; fellow citizens brutalized, tortured and imprisoned for more than a year.   Any American alive then was so ANGRY, most would have leveled IRAN without regret.<br />
WELCOME to Iran 09 (MINNESOTA) held HOSTAGE by terrorists GOP &amp; NORM COLEMAN. Who care NOTHING of right/wrong or following RULES &#8212; it&#8217;s ONLY about getting their way. Salivating as they ARE for bush v gore REPLAY as IF that was a GOOD THING.<br />
If they DISLIKE election results &#8211;take it to the Supreme Court.<br />
MORE THAN 200-years of peaceful TRANSITION UNTIL THE new GOP 2000 and NOW: Minnesota 09.<br />
Will we PERMIT them to hold this state HOSTAGE to GOP terrorism? Deliberately they are screwing Minnesota with IMPUNITY.<br />
Everyone in this state should DEMAND the GOP release our senate seat. REFUSE to elect any Republican UNLESS the 3-judge panel findings ARE certified so our governance can go on.<br />
ANY PARTY allowed to HOLD and entire state HOSTAGE should be viewed by EVERYONE as TANTAMOUNT TO what IRAN did to America 30-years ago,</p>
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		<title>By: Minnesota Central</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnesota Central</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s tally it up and see the score !

During Friedberg’s closing he said about Franken’s case &quot;&lt;i&gt;They have proved the viability of a number of ballots to an absolute certainty where there can be no conceivable question but that most of the ballots they put in issue should be opened and counted.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; In effect, agreeing that the Franken campaign&#039;s list of ballots should be counted. 

So, Franken had a margin of 225 at the start of the trial. Friedberg has just conceded that 252 ballots should be added. Plus individual voters have sued to have their votes counted and the Election Contest Court has ruled that they should be accepted; therefore the minimum Franken margin is over 500.

Now, let’s look at the Coleman argument.
Let’s give him 46 for the Minneapolis precinct with the lost ballots. [Personally, I agree with Coleman based on the Sparks-Schwab case. It’s a hard standard, and this court has held to past decisions and statutes.]
Add to that the double-counting claim -- caused by possible human errors in labeling the duplicates and originals. Coleman thinks he should have a net gain of 61 votes based on his selected 10 precincts (the most often cited is the Mpls precinct with a 14 vote discrepancy), but he is ignoring there are also many precincts (maybe more than 300) where Coleman won (like White Bear Lake which had a 13 vote discrepancy) and thus potentially that net gain could be much lower. 
Then there is the stringent rules applied in Carver County in accepting absentee ballots that could result in no more than 83 votes. {Personally, Coleman argument doesn’t make sense since the County may have contacted the voters to correct the mistake and eventually counted.)
Adding it all up … is less than 200 .. and that assumes the judges agree with him.

So to win, Coleman must hope that the Court agrees to accept 1,359 ballots from Coleman’s spreadsheet. However, considering how many blank cells are listed signifying that the voter wasn&#039;t registered; or the voter isn&#039;t currently in the Statewide Voter Registration System, etc. that shrinks his pool …. to 6.

I am glad that Coleman has taken his case to trial. The trial is proving that the multiple reviews by local election officials and re-enforced by the State Canvassing Board, Minnesota had a clean election. With 42% of the vote, Franken may be able to claim that he prevailed in this contest, but clearly the voters are not enamored with either candidate. Let’s end the claims of fraudulent and stolen elections and get on to seating a Senator.

No Overtime for Team Coleman. His talks of appeals are a waste of time … especially if Franken’s 225 vote margin is over 500.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s tally it up and see the score !</p>
<p>During Friedberg’s closing he said about Franken’s case &#8220;<i>They have proved the viability of a number of ballots to an absolute certainty where there can be no conceivable question but that most of the ballots they put in issue should be opened and counted.</i>&#8221; In effect, agreeing that the Franken campaign&#8217;s list of ballots should be counted. </p>
<p>So, Franken had a margin of 225 at the start of the trial. Friedberg has just conceded that 252 ballots should be added. Plus individual voters have sued to have their votes counted and the Election Contest Court has ruled that they should be accepted; therefore the minimum Franken margin is over 500.</p>
<p>Now, let’s look at the Coleman argument.<br />
Let’s give him 46 for the Minneapolis precinct with the lost ballots. [Personally, I agree with Coleman based on the Sparks-Schwab case. It’s a hard standard, and this court has held to past decisions and statutes.]<br />
Add to that the double-counting claim &#8212; caused by possible human errors in labeling the duplicates and originals. Coleman thinks he should have a net gain of 61 votes based on his selected 10 precincts (the most often cited is the Mpls precinct with a 14 vote discrepancy), but he is ignoring there are also many precincts (maybe more than 300) where Coleman won (like White Bear Lake which had a 13 vote discrepancy) and thus potentially that net gain could be much lower.<br />
Then there is the stringent rules applied in Carver County in accepting absentee ballots that could result in no more than 83 votes. {Personally, Coleman argument doesn’t make sense since the County may have contacted the voters to correct the mistake and eventually counted.)<br />
Adding it all up … is less than 200 .. and that assumes the judges agree with him.</p>
<p>So to win, Coleman must hope that the Court agrees to accept 1,359 ballots from Coleman’s spreadsheet. However, considering how many blank cells are listed signifying that the voter wasn&#8217;t registered; or the voter isn&#8217;t currently in the Statewide Voter Registration System, etc. that shrinks his pool …. to 6.</p>
<p>I am glad that Coleman has taken his case to trial. The trial is proving that the multiple reviews by local election officials and re-enforced by the State Canvassing Board, Minnesota had a clean election. With 42% of the vote, Franken may be able to claim that he prevailed in this contest, but clearly the voters are not enamored with either candidate. Let’s end the claims of fraudulent and stolen elections and get on to seating a Senator.</p>
<p>No Overtime for Team Coleman. His talks of appeals are a waste of time … especially if Franken’s 225 vote margin is over 500.</p>
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