Comments on: Faith leaders: Ban gay marriage in Minnesota or the world could end http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end News. Politics. Media. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:22:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jimminy http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-28344 Jimminy Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:42:59 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-28344 The real problem is not not the fact that homosexuals exists but that people talk and accept it in normal conversations. What normal conversation exist talking about the other discusting perverted things people do. We don't talk about it right, if we do we don't expect it to be acceptable. We don't go around talking about people that have fetishues that are illegal activities. We don't talk about legalizing infidelity. Why does everyone talk so damn much about the gay issue. I think that is the real problem that it is becoming so commonplace to talk about homosexuality that the entire world has began to accept in one way or another that this isn't an abnormal activity even though it should be considered abnormal. But I am not gay so that might not mean shit to you if you are. But if you are you are probably feeling guilty if you think you will like to go to heaven. The real problem is not not the fact that homosexuals exists but that people talk and accept it in normal conversations. What normal conversation exist talking about the other discusting perverted things people do. We don’t talk about it right, if we do we don’t expect it to be acceptable. We don’t go around talking about people that have fetishues that are illegal activities. We don’t talk about legalizing infidelity. Why does everyone talk so damn much about the gay issue. I think that is the real problem that it is becoming so commonplace to talk about homosexuality that the entire world has began to accept in one way or another that this isn’t an abnormal activity even though it should be considered abnormal. But I am not gay so that might not mean shit to you if you are. But if you are you are probably feeling guilty if you think you will like to go to heaven.

]]> By: Chaneliz http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27580 Chaneliz Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:02:45 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27580 That was very ignorant to say the 9/11 incident happened because God wanted to send us a “message”. A country fighting for there country sending a plane into the towers of there antagonist home has nothing to do with God wills but more with fighting for hatred. Do not blame the Gay for our actions and others. That was very ignorant to say the 9/11 incident happened because God wanted to send us a “message”. A country fighting for there country sending a plane into the towers of there antagonist home has nothing to do with God wills but more with fighting for hatred. Do not blame the Gay for our actions and others.

]]> By: Martin http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27528 Martin Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:15:53 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27528 Old bible-god must be the craziest deity ever. He's insecure, jealous, has extreme anger issues, tries to coerce everyone with threats of eternal torture into loving him, and is obsessed with gays and foreskins. Old bible-god must be the craziest deity ever. He’s insecure, jealous, has extreme anger issues, tries to coerce everyone with threats of eternal torture into loving him, and is obsessed with gays and foreskins.

]]> By: Sarcasmmmm http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27506 Sarcasmmmm Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:01:36 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27506 Gay marriage is a threat to traditional marriage. Christian marriage has long been held as the glue which holds family and communities together. Children need to be raised in a family with a mother and a father of good Christian values. Thus, I believe, that there should be a constitutional amendment that states, “Marriage is defined as the union of one white Christian man to one white Christian woman”. Further, since the other threats to marriage are divorce and death, both should also be outlawed. We need to put the “lock” in wedlock. You married each other and that is forever. Next, since children need both a mother and father, all children born outside of wedlock or those who have just one parent (for whatever reason) should be taken from their single parent and given to a good Christian family. I am sure, as a Christian, that this is covered in the Bible somewhere. Probably next to the quote about killing a son who disobeys their father….. Gay marriage is a threat to traditional marriage. Christian marriage has long been held as the glue which holds family and communities together. Children need to be raised in a family with a mother and a father of good Christian values. Thus, I believe, that there should be a constitutional amendment that states, “Marriage is defined as the union of one white Christian man to one white Christian woman”. Further, since the other threats to marriage are divorce and death, both should also be outlawed. We need to put the “lock” in wedlock. You married each other and that is forever. Next, since children need both a mother and father, all children born outside of wedlock or those who have just one parent (for whatever reason) should be taken from their single parent and given to a good Christian family. I am sure, as a Christian, that this is covered in the Bible somewhere. Probably next to the quote about killing a son who disobeys their father…..

]]> By: Soundboy_Jeff http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27503 Soundboy_Jeff Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:30:50 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27503 “We see this as a pivotal issue to life, not just for our nation but the life we have known for 3,000 years,” said Tom Parrish, administrative pastor of Hope Lutheran Church. Parrish represents Hope Lutheran Church, whose senior pastor, Tom Brock, raised some eyebrows in 2003 when he insisted the 9/11 attacks were God’s wake-up call. “That’s a lifestyle that God says is sinful,” Brock said of homosexuality in 2003. ---- one more comment... interesting that he (and NO other religious leader) didn't notice the absence of the intervention of God with the Catholic church's decades of sexual abuse... but 9/11 was an indicator that God thinks homosexuality is sinful? I guess God was okay with the pedophiles in the church huh? I mean, no planes flew into buildings or anything... so it must've been okay. “We see this as a pivotal issue to life, not just for our nation but the life we have known for 3,000 years,” said Tom Parrish, administrative pastor of Hope Lutheran Church. Parrish represents Hope Lutheran Church, whose senior pastor, Tom Brock, raised some eyebrows in 2003 when he insisted the 9/11 attacks were God’s wake-up call.

“That’s a lifestyle that God says is sinful,” Brock said of homosexuality in 2003.
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one more comment… interesting that he (and NO other religious leader) didn’t notice the absence of the intervention of God with the Catholic church’s decades of sexual abuse… but 9/11 was an indicator that God thinks homosexuality is sinful?

I guess God was okay with the pedophiles in the church huh? I mean, no planes flew into buildings or anything… so it must’ve been okay.

]]> By: Soundboy_Jeff http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27502 Soundboy_Jeff Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:23:22 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27502 Bruce G Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 10:06 am Strange isn’t it that government does not control church baptisms, church confirmations or church Sunday school - so why is it “marriage” is government controlled? I think perhaps “marriage” should be taken from the clutches of “government” and left to be administered by the “church”. Make sense? I sure think so. ---- Bruce, agreed... what you're talking about are Civil Unions. however, when they're created (with marriage left as a church ceremony)... the religious right screams "its still marriage! they're just calling it something different!" even if it were two separate things entirely with the same rights, they'd scream we were undermining marriage. what it comes down to is that the 'ick factor' seems to be a good enough reason to deny a certain part of the population the same rights that everyone else has... it isn't about marriage at all. Bruce G
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 10:06 am
Strange isn’t it that government does not control church baptisms, church confirmations or church Sunday school – so why is it “marriage” is government controlled?

I think perhaps “marriage” should be taken from the clutches of “government” and left to be administered by the “church”.

Make sense? I sure think so.

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Bruce, agreed… what you’re talking about are Civil Unions.

however, when they’re created (with marriage left as a church ceremony)… the religious right screams “its still marriage! they’re just calling it something different!”

even if it were two separate things entirely with the same rights, they’d scream we were undermining marriage.

what it comes down to is that the ‘ick factor’ seems to be a good enough reason to deny a certain part of the population the same rights that everyone else has… it isn’t about marriage at all.

]]> By: Soundboy_Jeff http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27500 Soundboy_Jeff Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:16:16 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27500 Eric Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 10:46 am --- Eric, you forgot one... 5. the entire Bible belt will be forced to endure reruns of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy until their fashion sense and hygeine improves enough to be deemed 'acceptable' by the American Gay Council For Fabulousness. Eric
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 10:46 am

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Eric, you forgot one…

5. the entire Bible belt will be forced to endure reruns of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy until their fashion sense and hygeine improves enough to be deemed ‘acceptable’ by the American Gay Council For Fabulousness.

]]> By: Soundboy_Jeff http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27499 Soundboy_Jeff Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:09:21 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27499 “If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,” said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious director of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington. --- so, in essence, this person is stating that if gays have the right to marry... everyone will "become" gay? huh? so marriage is the only thing stopping this person from being gey eh? sounds like they've got issues of their own that have NOTHING to do with the LGBT community. seriously, even if you believed gay people aren't born gay (which I personally know I was)... if you think of it along the lines of religion, which IS a choice, why are there more religions than one? seriously, if its a choice (their belief, not mine)... why do they think everyone would choose to be gay? funny, to believe that God (whichever religion you choose to believe in) created us ALL in his image (gays and straight alike), in their perspective would assume God to be flawed... which would mean their judging God. Who are they to judge God's plan? isn't that the height of egotism?... and a sin? “If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,” said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious director of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington.

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so, in essence, this person is stating that if gays have the right to marry… everyone will “become” gay? huh? so marriage is the only thing stopping this person from being gey eh? sounds like they’ve got issues of their own that have NOTHING to do with the LGBT community.

seriously, even if you believed gay people aren’t born gay (which I personally know I was)… if you think of it along the lines of religion, which IS a choice, why are there more religions than one? seriously, if its a choice (their belief, not mine)… why do they think everyone would choose to be gay?

funny, to believe that God (whichever religion you choose to believe in) created us ALL in his image (gays and straight alike), in their perspective would assume God to be flawed… which would mean their judging God. Who are they to judge God’s plan? isn’t that the height of egotism?… and a sin?

]]> By: Faith leaders: Ban gay marriage in Minnesota or the world will end « The Church of Jesus Christ http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27492 Faith leaders: Ban gay marriage in Minnesota or the world will end « The Church of Jesus Christ Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:02:35 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27492 [...] God, homosexuality, islam, judaism, marriage, minnesota, politics, religion by Polycarp The Minnesota Family Council says it will introduce an amendment banning same-sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships [...] [...] God, homosexuality, islam, judaism, marriage, minnesota, politics, religion by Polycarp The Minnesota Family Council says it will introduce an amendment banning same-sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships [...]

]]> By: Anung Un Rama http://minnesotaindependent.com/29356/faith-leaders-ban-gay-marriage-in-minnesota-or-the-world-could-end/comment-page-1#comment-27477 Anung Un Rama Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:56:48 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=29356#comment-27477 Does this crap ever end? God honestly doesn't care who rubs uglies with who, or if they get married and rub uglies. I'm straight, but the more I hear about this anti-gay nonsense, the more it makes me want to find a lonely gay guy and blow him just out of principle. Does this crap ever end? God honestly doesn’t care who rubs uglies with who, or if they get married and rub uglies. I’m straight, but the more I hear about this anti-gay nonsense, the more it makes me want to find a lonely gay guy and blow him just out of principle.

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