Comments on: Bachmann unclear on Constitution?

By: Victor

Victor — Thu, 07 May 2009 14:43:48 +0000

There is no “general welfare” clause as far as granting authority for anything. The “general welfare” spoken of is just a statement about one of the reasons to have a Consitution.

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

The “necessary and proper” spoken of by Brad simply means that the government has the power to write laws to implement the powers granted under Article I Section 8.

“To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”

By: PAUL REVERE

PAUL REVERE — Wed, 06 May 2009 23:52:14 +0000

If you want a better understanding of what is going on and why she is asking these questions here’s a few books you may want to read. Meltdown, Creature from Jekyl Island, Road to Serfdom,

By: PAUL REVERE

PAUL REVERE — Wed, 06 May 2009 23:41:01 +0000

Hey Birkey you should put down the pen and go pick up a book. It is funny how little commentators as yourself really know as do some of your readers. What she is asking is legitimate and well said. The Congress first of all never had the authority to grant the power of coining money to a private entity like the Fed in the first place. What difference does it make if they have the power to do so. What they are attempting to do has never been successful. We will end up like the Weimar republic. Hyper inflation here we come!

By: Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts by David Weigal « The Public Choice Capitalist

Wed, 06 May 2009 22:53:29 +0000

[...] to to give authority for the actions that have been taken by the Treasury since March of ‘08?” asked Bachmann during a hearing on March 24. “What in the Constitution could you point to to give authority to [...]

By: Jim S

Jim S — Wed, 06 May 2009 16:24:33 +0000

Ooops – significant spelling mistake. The last sentence of the last paragraph should read: If congress can’t cite their authority then Geithner, and others, should refuse – publicly.

By: Jim S

Jim S — Wed, 06 May 2009 16:22:20 +0000

Charles Woods – you bring up a good point and timely as well. If you will be just a little patient you will soon find an organization with that sole purpose. It is in its final stages of being put together and will be rolled out by the end of this month. The name is: The Liberty Revolution (www.thelibertyrevolution.org) and the website will be activated on June 1st.

Brad – as regards the “necessary and proper” clause. This clause as well as the “General Welfare” clause are often improperly used. Neither is to give congress additional power beyond that which was detailed in other parts of the constitution. It is to state how and why those powers should be used.

I can only hope that more of our politicians begin asking these questions. A better way however would be for people like Geithner to ask congress for their constitutional authority before they accept their marching orders. If congress can cite their authority then Geithner, and others, should refuse – publicly.

Jim

By: Sarah

Sarah — Wed, 06 May 2009 01:56:38 +0000

These people are criminals and everyone knows it. She is only getting their lies on the record (just watch their eyes, esp. Geithner) so the masses will have the scapegoats when America is finally driven into the ground – think about some of the statements they confirmed:

- They will both renounce forsaking the US dollar for an international currency
- Their powers do not align with the Constitution, as Congress is not authorized to designate its own power to coin and print money to any other entity. (Hey… why do we borrow money from the Federal Reserve … at interest ? Add to that the hidden tax of inflation, and I’m wondering why we’re even wasting time with these cowardly liars at all.)

Most of the comments on this article are not indicative of an independent news source, or free thought. I suggest you start with The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin and work your way toward the light slowly.

By: Brad

Brad — Wed, 06 May 2009 01:10:17 +0000

The only justification for the actions of the Treasury, and even for the creation of the Federal Reserve itself is the “necessary and proper” clause, essentially negating any limits placed on Congress by the 10th amendment. All of their actions are constitutional because of this phrase. It is cited to justify almost any action made by government. And even if that phrase didn’t exist, then activist judges would certainly interpret the “general welfare” clause to mean anything they want. It isn’t a problem of constitutionality. It is a problem of loosely interpreted and ambiguous phrases in the Constitution and the overall rejection of original intent from as early as Justice Marshall.

By: Renee

Renee — Wed, 06 May 2009 00:27:44 +0000

Thank you, Neil. Well stated.

And, Karl? Our last excuse for a president couldn’t correctly pronounce NUC-LE-AR. Spoke volumes of his deficits.

By: Charles Woods

Charles Woods — Wed, 06 May 2009 00:00:23 +0000

I would like to bring all of this back and forth to a head. I thought that was the purpose of the Judiciary yet I don’t see anyone waiting for a court decision on these topics. Why not.