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		<title>By: Paul Schmelzer</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-32443</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Schmelzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did. Here&#039;s my 8/30/08 report on it:
http://minnesotaindependent.com/6183/warrant-at-food-not-bombs-house-sought-bombs-feces-razor-wire

And the context for it:
http://minnesotaindependent.com/6158/breaking-food-not-bombs-house-among-saturday-raids

It&#039;s worth remembering: a search warrant indicates what law enforcement is looking for, not what they&#039;ve found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did. Here&#8217;s my 8/30/08 report on it:<br />
<a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/6183/warrant-at-food-not-bombs-house-sought-bombs-feces-razor-wire" rel="nofollow">http://minnesotaindependent.com/6183/warrant-at-food-not-bombs-house-sought-bombs-feces-razor-wire</a></p>
<p>And the context for it:<br />
<a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/6158/breaking-food-not-bombs-house-among-saturday-raids" rel="nofollow">http://minnesotaindependent.com/6158/breaking-food-not-bombs-house-among-saturday-raids</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth remembering: a search warrant indicates what law enforcement is looking for, not what they&#8217;ve found.</p>
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		<title>By: Nachman</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-32434</link>
		<dc:creator>Nachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Schmelzer: did you read the search warrant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Schmelzer: did you read the search warrant?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-29984</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This group of losers deserve jail time.  They are just another group of anarchists...yawn.  Grow up and get a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This group of losers deserve jail time.  They are just another group of anarchists&#8230;yawn.  Grow up and get a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-29067</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is exactly why we have the Second Amendment that liberals so desperately want to take away. It prevents a total authoritarian state from happening as described above.
See, this is the issue. People bitch because they &quot;feel&quot; their rights are infringed upon when they can&#039;t run through the streets smashing windows and throwing fecal matter on people. Then Kenny Bravo above starts to worry about an economic downturn and the &quot;inability&quot; to take to the streets. Sorry gang, as much as many of you dislike guns, they ensure our freedoms. Maybe if we&#039;d also elect people other than tax and spend liberals to office we wouldn&#039;t be in this mess either. You can thank Barney Frank D-MA, Chris Dodd D-CT in particular for this mess. And if any of you have buddies in those states, you may want to call them and ream their ass if they tell you they&#039;re voting for either of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is exactly why we have the Second Amendment that liberals so desperately want to take away. It prevents a total authoritarian state from happening as described above.<br />
See, this is the issue. People bitch because they &#8220;feel&#8221; their rights are infringed upon when they can&#8217;t run through the streets smashing windows and throwing fecal matter on people. Then Kenny Bravo above starts to worry about an economic downturn and the &#8220;inability&#8221; to take to the streets. Sorry gang, as much as many of you dislike guns, they ensure our freedoms. Maybe if we&#8217;d also elect people other than tax and spend liberals to office we wouldn&#8217;t be in this mess either. You can thank Barney Frank D-MA, Chris Dodd D-CT in particular for this mess. And if any of you have buddies in those states, you may want to call them and ream their ass if they tell you they&#8217;re voting for either of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ken b.</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-28867</link>
		<dc:creator>ken b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are ,i&#039;m afraid,quite right darkmark.if the economic downturn continues to worsen would,could citizens be allowed to take to the streets?not to mention any other cause for unrest of the populace.the laws are in place,patriot act,etc.,to enable the gov.to come down hard on dissent of any sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are ,i&#8217;m afraid,quite right darkmark.if the economic downturn continues to worsen would,could citizens be allowed to take to the streets?not to mention any other cause for unrest of the populace.the laws are in place,patriot act,etc.,to enable the gov.to come down hard on dissent of any sort.</p>
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		<title>By: darkmark</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-28821</link>
		<dc:creator>darkmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what exactly did these people do?  did they do anything?  who says the right wing doesn&#039;t have power in the good ol usofa?  watch those laws stay in effect.  just waiting for the day that someone in power needs to put away a few, million, disagreeable terrorists like the rnc 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what exactly did these people do?  did they do anything?  who says the right wing doesn&#8217;t have power in the good ol usofa?  watch those laws stay in effect.  just waiting for the day that someone in power needs to put away a few, million, disagreeable terrorists like the rnc 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-28802</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the actions of the 8 were designed to scare people from coming out to the convention to support the republican party.   They strove to intimidate those people gathering in support of their chosen party.  If not terrorism, this is pretty close to it.

There is a huge difference between these 8, and the majority of the anti RNC protestors.   Thousands of people met peacefully at the capital and espoused their anti-RNC views, and didn&#039;t take the extra steps of planning disruption of others or confrontations with police and RNC attendees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the actions of the 8 were designed to scare people from coming out to the convention to support the republican party.   They strove to intimidate those people gathering in support of their chosen party.  If not terrorism, this is pretty close to it.</p>
<p>There is a huge difference between these 8, and the majority of the anti RNC protestors.   Thousands of people met peacefully at the capital and espoused their anti-RNC views, and didn&#8217;t take the extra steps of planning disruption of others or confrontations with police and RNC attendees.</p>
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		<title>By: Politics cloud decision to drop terrorism charges against RNC Eight &#171; At Home He&#8217;s A Turista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politics cloud decision to drop terrorism charges against RNC Eight &#171; At Home He&#8217;s A Turista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Coleen Rowley</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/31664/politics-clouds-decision-to-drop-rnc-eight-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-28727</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleen Rowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My insightful husband Ross and mnpACT! blogger David Mindeman made some comments (url below) about the history of these pre-emptive terrorism arrests of the RNC 8 which stood as the sole justification for over three months before the Prosecutor finally backed them up by non-terrorism charges (as it became increasingly clear that the Minnesota Patriot Act charges were totally bogus). Then four months after the back-up charges were in place, the original terrorism charges are removed. What&#039;s the term for that? Smoking mirrors isn&#039;t exactly the right term but there&#039;s got to be one. What everyone&#039;s missing, apparently including Susan Gaertner, is that there would never have been pre-emptive arrests in the first place without the MN Patriot Act nonsense because the &quot;Bush Doctrine&quot; pre-emption is a creature of the so-called &quot;war on terror&quot;.  And by the way the Obama Administration has said the (misbegotten) &quot;war on terror&quot; is over.  Unfortunately they&#039;ve not said anything about &quot;Bush Doctrine&quot; being over, but....

See: http://www.mnpact.org/sblog/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My insightful husband Ross and mnpACT! blogger David Mindeman made some comments (url below) about the history of these pre-emptive terrorism arrests of the RNC 8 which stood as the sole justification for over three months before the Prosecutor finally backed them up by non-terrorism charges (as it became increasingly clear that the Minnesota Patriot Act charges were totally bogus). Then four months after the back-up charges were in place, the original terrorism charges are removed. What&#8217;s the term for that? Smoking mirrors isn&#8217;t exactly the right term but there&#8217;s got to be one. What everyone&#8217;s missing, apparently including Susan Gaertner, is that there would never have been pre-emptive arrests in the first place without the MN Patriot Act nonsense because the &#8220;Bush Doctrine&#8221; pre-emption is a creature of the so-called &#8220;war on terror&#8221;.  And by the way the Obama Administration has said the (misbegotten) &#8220;war on terror&#8221; is over.  Unfortunately they&#8217;ve not said anything about &#8220;Bush Doctrine&#8221; being over, but&#8230;.</p>
<p>See: <a href="http://www.mnpact.org/sblog/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.mnpact.org/sblog/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Schmelzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Schmelzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick: The RNC8 didn&#039;t riot, put bricks through windows or damage private property. They were rounded up by police in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://minnesotaindependent.com/6158/breaking-food-not-bombs-house-among-saturday-raids&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;series&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://minnesotaindependent.com/7568/attorneys-for-minnesota-nine-call-criminal-charges-outrageous&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;raids&lt;/a&gt; days before the RNC even started. So your metaphor might be more like: A bunch of Minnesota Wild fans think about rioting should the team lose but get locked up before even driving to the Xcel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick: The RNC8 didn&#8217;t riot, put bricks through windows or damage private property. They were rounded up by police in a <a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/6158/breaking-food-not-bombs-house-among-saturday-raids" rel="nofollow">series</a> of <a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/7568/attorneys-for-minnesota-nine-call-criminal-charges-outrageous" rel="nofollow">raids</a> days before the RNC even started. So your metaphor might be more like: A bunch of Minnesota Wild fans think about rioting should the team lose but get locked up before even driving to the Xcel.</p>
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