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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, let us make one thing clear.  Marijuana is not &#039;THE&#039; gateway drug.  If American law makers were really concerned about America&#039;s youth, we should make the REAL gateway drug illegal: ALCOHOL.  Alcohol IS the gateway drug in America and it has become a cultural norm, as depicted in teen movies popularized within the past decade.  So if one were to use the gateway drug theory you MUST INCLUDE ALCOHOL, otherwise the facts are skewed.  Teenagers will more often then not drink alcohol before smoking their first joint.  Ignoring this fact is ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, let us make one thing clear.  Marijuana is not &#8216;THE&#8217; gateway drug.  If American law makers were really concerned about America&#8217;s youth, we should make the REAL gateway drug illegal: ALCOHOL.  Alcohol IS the gateway drug in America and it has become a cultural norm, as depicted in teen movies popularized within the past decade.  So if one were to use the gateway drug theory you MUST INCLUDE ALCOHOL, otherwise the facts are skewed.  Teenagers will more often then not drink alcohol before smoking their first joint.  Ignoring this fact is ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let me get this straight... she said pot was a gateway drug, but then went on to say “These addicted people went from tobacco to pot to cocaine to meth. That’s a fact.” wouldnt that just make tobacco the gateway drug? wouldnt that make pot a drug on the path rather than the beginning of the end like everyone claims that it is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let me get this straight&#8230; she said pot was a gateway drug, but then went on to say “These addicted people went from tobacco to pot to cocaine to meth. That’s a fact.” wouldnt that just make tobacco the gateway drug? wouldnt that make pot a drug on the path rather than the beginning of the end like everyone claims that it is?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this &quot;war on drugs&quot; thing supposed to achieve?

Weed is available and reasonably priced because it&#039;s in demand and does no harm.

The WOD just seems to randomly attack users and deny sick folk  a palliative. It does this while allowing criminal organizations to make cash off of the &quot;criminal&quot; dividend.

I am heartily sick of these know nothing politicians trying to score votes off of &quot;hard nosed drug attitudes. 

Surely there is a majority amongst American voters that is either pro marijuana decriminalization or at worst neutral about it. That being the case how come these ignorant bigots get elected?


Marijuana hasn&#039;t harmed anybody. I speak as a user of over 40 years. I have my own engineering business employing over 420 people, I have a family, I am a respected community member and I am a criminal because I get high. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; thing supposed to achieve?</p>
<p>Weed is available and reasonably priced because it&#8217;s in demand and does no harm.</p>
<p>The WOD just seems to randomly attack users and deny sick folk  a palliative. It does this while allowing criminal organizations to make cash off of the &#8220;criminal&#8221; dividend.</p>
<p>I am heartily sick of these know nothing politicians trying to score votes off of &#8220;hard nosed drug attitudes. </p>
<p>Surely there is a majority amongst American voters that is either pro marijuana decriminalization or at worst neutral about it. That being the case how come these ignorant bigots get elected?</p>
<p>Marijuana hasn&#8217;t harmed anybody. I speak as a user of over 40 years. I have my own engineering business employing over 420 people, I have a family, I am a respected community member and I am a criminal because I get high. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pot is not and never has been a gateway drug. its the people choice to do other drugs. if you blame pot for other drug addicts than you should say alcohol is a gateway drug or tylonal. i thought this country was done putting blame on things and the people in it would take resposability for there actions. apparently not. WWII started by putting the blame on someone besides ourselves and it was a pointless war. how can we sit back and not allow the one thing we know has medical use not be legall. and i dont care either way i will go down fighting! all you people see is the words that come out of dope addicts and crack heads. if it were them saying that they didnt hit some kid on the side of the road when they were cracked out would you belive them probly not so why belive them now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pot is not and never has been a gateway drug. its the people choice to do other drugs. if you blame pot for other drug addicts than you should say alcohol is a gateway drug or tylonal. i thought this country was done putting blame on things and the people in it would take resposability for there actions. apparently not. WWII started by putting the blame on someone besides ourselves and it was a pointless war. how can we sit back and not allow the one thing we know has medical use not be legall. and i dont care either way i will go down fighting! all you people see is the words that come out of dope addicts and crack heads. if it were them saying that they didnt hit some kid on the side of the road when they were cracked out would you belive them probly not so why belive them now?</p>
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		<title>By: BeenThere</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeenThere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“These addicted people went from tobacco to pot to cocaine to meth. That’s a fact.”

Is that why I tinkered with anything that didn&#039;t need a needle to use about... Oh, let&#039;s call it 20 years ago now... and today, I use - almost exclusively - tobacco (1.5-2 packs a day) and cannabis (If I&#039;ve got a steady supply and the free time, I&#039;ll usually smoke about 1.5-2 ounces a month) 

The &quot;almost&quot; is my very occasional 3-4 shot-equivalents of Jack Daniel&#039;s (I&#039;ve got a half full pint bottle of Jack Daniel&#039;s sitting here on the desk - six months after buying it) or a beer or two. (The last six-pack of my favorite beer I bought still has two bottles in it - almost 8 months after buying it)

Been a tobacco smoker since young - at first &quot;second-hand&quot;, then in my teens, picking it up outright. I&#039;m stuck with that habit. And it sucks. Don&#039;t tell me about &quot;then quit&quot; - I&#039;ve had rabid former smokers by me butts when I try to quit - Quite bluntly, I&#039;m not fit for human contact without nicotine.  

I was close to 18 when I first tried cannabis. I found that I liked it very much. I also found that it took the edge off my ADHD symptoms. And it didn&#039;t make the bugs start coming out of the walls like the ritalin did. Since those days, if somebody wants to hand me a bowl or a joint, I won&#039;t refuse. At the same time, I can and have quit smoking it after an extended period - literally years - of &quot;ounce-or-two a month&quot; smoking without feeling the slightest ill effect beyond &quot;Sure would be nice to have a toke or two right about now.&quot;

Coke - Tried that. Made my nose numb and runny. Didn&#039;t impress me as being something I&#039;d be willing to spend money on. Additional drawback: I get what I refer to as the &quot;?-caine sizzle&quot; - Any &quot;caine&quot; drug, from procaine, to xylocaine, to cocaine, and every other variant-caine I&#039;ve encountered, gives me the same unpleasant sensation that I can best describe as &quot;my skin sizzles&quot;. Not like it&#039;s actually frying - it doesn&#039;t feel &quot;hot&quot;. But trying to describe it is difficult. Somehow, the sensation &quot;matches&quot; with the sizzling sound of frying bacon. I might try it again, if somebody else was buying, but it&#039;s unlikely in the extreme that I&#039;d willingly pay for it. 

Meth - Cooked up a batch (also probably 20 years ago now)  under the supervision of a well-on-the-way to being certified organic chemist. Eh... I wasn&#039;t much impressed by the stuff. The reaction worked (We had access to facilities to verify it - purity was close to 98%) the leftovers got properly disposed, nobody was hurt, blown up, burnt down, or contaminated, and I let the supervisor take the rest of the batch without ever asking what he intended to do with it. Would I cook it up again? Nah, it&#039;s been too long for me to remember the details right, and frankly, I don&#039;t have enough interest to do it. Would I buy it? Again, no. Would I use it if supplied? Probably not unless I was in a &quot;doing a touch of speed might help me survive&quot; situation (which is about as likely as me deciding that stepping out a 10th story window would be a good idea)

Heroin? Various other opiates? Let me make something really clear: Needle drugs, unless being administered by doctor/nurse/nurse&#039;s aide, etc under proper clinical conditions, are just plain not on the menu for me. Period. Just don&#039;t even waste your effort trying to go there. I simply cannot do the &quot;street-needle&quot; thing. I can be tapped for blood or have an IV done under proper aseptic technique using gear I&#039;ve seen come out of its individual &quot;Sterility guaranteed unless...&quot; package. But come at me with a needle that I don&#039;t &quot;My eyes saw it&quot; *KNOW*  is clean, and there&#039;s likely to be casualties... 

Other opiates - I broke 6 ribs in an accident last year just about this time. Doc kept me on IV pain drugs for three days, then wrote me scripts for a total of 70 Oxycontin and 180 Oxycodone. 
I can account for each and every one of them - I obsessed over NOT getting hooked on them, diligently logging each one taken, and a rating of the pain at the time I took it. Got more than half of the &quot;refill&quot; script of the Oxycodones left. If/when I get hurt again, I may well eat one of those to hold me over until a doc sees me, but otherwise, they&#039;ll sit here in their airtight package in the back corner of the freezer.

Hallucinigenics - LSD and shrooms - Been there, done that, don&#039;t think I&#039;m interested in doing it again anytime soon. It was fun &quot;back in the day&quot;, but these days, it just doesn&#039;t seem too inviting.

To be perfectly honest, I&#039;d just as soon kick back with a bowl of cannabis and a tall glass of milk. On the other hand, if I don&#039;t have any to smoke...  So what? In the future, when I get handed some more, I&#039;ll smoke it. Until then, I&#039;ll survive just fine without it.

If that&#039;s addiction, I guess I&#039;m addicted. Addicted or not, I&#039;m a productive member of society, making a decent, if not spectacular, living, harming nobody (at least, not knowingly causing harm). I may not be living a &quot;Bill Gates&quot; lifestyle, but I&#039;m also not &quot;tapping the public teat&quot;, and I have the majority of what I want out of life. 

For my lone data point, Legalize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“These addicted people went from tobacco to pot to cocaine to meth. That’s a fact.”</p>
<p>Is that why I tinkered with anything that didn&#8217;t need a needle to use about&#8230; Oh, let&#8217;s call it 20 years ago now&#8230; and today, I use &#8211; almost exclusively &#8211; tobacco (1.5-2 packs a day) and cannabis (If I&#8217;ve got a steady supply and the free time, I&#8217;ll usually smoke about 1.5-2 ounces a month) </p>
<p>The &#8220;almost&#8221; is my very occasional 3-4 shot-equivalents of Jack Daniel&#8217;s (I&#8217;ve got a half full pint bottle of Jack Daniel&#8217;s sitting here on the desk &#8211; six months after buying it) or a beer or two. (The last six-pack of my favorite beer I bought still has two bottles in it &#8211; almost 8 months after buying it)</p>
<p>Been a tobacco smoker since young &#8211; at first &#8220;second-hand&#8221;, then in my teens, picking it up outright. I&#8217;m stuck with that habit. And it sucks. Don&#8217;t tell me about &#8220;then quit&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;ve had rabid former smokers by me butts when I try to quit &#8211; Quite bluntly, I&#8217;m not fit for human contact without nicotine.  </p>
<p>I was close to 18 when I first tried cannabis. I found that I liked it very much. I also found that it took the edge off my ADHD symptoms. And it didn&#8217;t make the bugs start coming out of the walls like the ritalin did. Since those days, if somebody wants to hand me a bowl or a joint, I won&#8217;t refuse. At the same time, I can and have quit smoking it after an extended period &#8211; literally years &#8211; of &#8220;ounce-or-two a month&#8221; smoking without feeling the slightest ill effect beyond &#8220;Sure would be nice to have a toke or two right about now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Coke &#8211; Tried that. Made my nose numb and runny. Didn&#8217;t impress me as being something I&#8217;d be willing to spend money on. Additional drawback: I get what I refer to as the &#8220;?-caine sizzle&#8221; &#8211; Any &#8220;caine&#8221; drug, from procaine, to xylocaine, to cocaine, and every other variant-caine I&#8217;ve encountered, gives me the same unpleasant sensation that I can best describe as &#8220;my skin sizzles&#8221;. Not like it&#8217;s actually frying &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t feel &#8220;hot&#8221;. But trying to describe it is difficult. Somehow, the sensation &#8220;matches&#8221; with the sizzling sound of frying bacon. I might try it again, if somebody else was buying, but it&#8217;s unlikely in the extreme that I&#8217;d willingly pay for it. </p>
<p>Meth &#8211; Cooked up a batch (also probably 20 years ago now)  under the supervision of a well-on-the-way to being certified organic chemist. Eh&#8230; I wasn&#8217;t much impressed by the stuff. The reaction worked (We had access to facilities to verify it &#8211; purity was close to 98%) the leftovers got properly disposed, nobody was hurt, blown up, burnt down, or contaminated, and I let the supervisor take the rest of the batch without ever asking what he intended to do with it. Would I cook it up again? Nah, it&#8217;s been too long for me to remember the details right, and frankly, I don&#8217;t have enough interest to do it. Would I buy it? Again, no. Would I use it if supplied? Probably not unless I was in a &#8220;doing a touch of speed might help me survive&#8221; situation (which is about as likely as me deciding that stepping out a 10th story window would be a good idea)</p>
<p>Heroin? Various other opiates? Let me make something really clear: Needle drugs, unless being administered by doctor/nurse/nurse&#8217;s aide, etc under proper clinical conditions, are just plain not on the menu for me. Period. Just don&#8217;t even waste your effort trying to go there. I simply cannot do the &#8220;street-needle&#8221; thing. I can be tapped for blood or have an IV done under proper aseptic technique using gear I&#8217;ve seen come out of its individual &#8220;Sterility guaranteed unless&#8230;&#8221; package. But come at me with a needle that I don&#8217;t &#8220;My eyes saw it&#8221; *KNOW*  is clean, and there&#8217;s likely to be casualties&#8230; </p>
<p>Other opiates &#8211; I broke 6 ribs in an accident last year just about this time. Doc kept me on IV pain drugs for three days, then wrote me scripts for a total of 70 Oxycontin and 180 Oxycodone.<br />
I can account for each and every one of them &#8211; I obsessed over NOT getting hooked on them, diligently logging each one taken, and a rating of the pain at the time I took it. Got more than half of the &#8220;refill&#8221; script of the Oxycodones left. If/when I get hurt again, I may well eat one of those to hold me over until a doc sees me, but otherwise, they&#8217;ll sit here in their airtight package in the back corner of the freezer.</p>
<p>Hallucinigenics &#8211; LSD and shrooms &#8211; Been there, done that, don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m interested in doing it again anytime soon. It was fun &#8220;back in the day&#8221;, but these days, it just doesn&#8217;t seem too inviting.</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, I&#8217;d just as soon kick back with a bowl of cannabis and a tall glass of milk. On the other hand, if I don&#8217;t have any to smoke&#8230;  So what? In the future, when I get handed some more, I&#8217;ll smoke it. Until then, I&#8217;ll survive just fine without it.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s addiction, I guess I&#8217;m addicted. Addicted or not, I&#8217;m a productive member of society, making a decent, if not spectacular, living, harming nobody (at least, not knowingly causing harm). I may not be living a &#8220;Bill Gates&#8221; lifestyle, but I&#8217;m also not &#8220;tapping the public teat&#8221;, and I have the majority of what I want out of life. </p>
<p>For my lone data point, Legalize it.</p>
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		<title>By: flix</title>
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		<dc:creator>flix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see how the women says:
These addicted people went from tobacco to pot to cocaine to meth. That’s a fact
SO BANN TOBACCO IF YOU WONT LEGALIZE WEED!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see how the women says:<br />
These addicted people went from tobacco to pot to cocaine to meth. That’s a fact<br />
SO BANN TOBACCO IF YOU WONT LEGALIZE WEED!.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Frankland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Frankland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 05:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to add that Cannabis Marijuana CLOSES THE GATEWAY TO DRUGS!
The DRUG dealers in our society are DOCTORS who prescribe DANGEROUS PILLS for profit. The more sick people, and the sicker the are, the more pills Doctor Drug dealer can prescribe to KEEP THEM SICK. Marijuana eliminates pharmaceutical company profits and necessity. 

The Big Pharma lobby is probably the cock Tim Palenty and these other republicans are sucking, when they come out with their dumb ass talking points.

Do they really want to protect children, or profits?  EVIL FOOLS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to add that Cannabis Marijuana CLOSES THE GATEWAY TO DRUGS!<br />
The DRUG dealers in our society are DOCTORS who prescribe DANGEROUS PILLS for profit. The more sick people, and the sicker the are, the more pills Doctor Drug dealer can prescribe to KEEP THEM SICK. Marijuana eliminates pharmaceutical company profits and necessity. </p>
<p>The Big Pharma lobby is probably the cock Tim Palenty and these other republicans are sucking, when they come out with their dumb ass talking points.</p>
<p>Do they really want to protect children, or profits?  EVIL FOOLS!</p>
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		<title>By: Akuto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akuto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such nonsense from these silly people... if everyone who tried tobacco went to pot, then coke and meth, wouldn&#039;t many, many more people be meth addicts? Wouldn&#039;t anybody who tried pot end up as a meth addict as well? I&#039;m sick of illogical debating from these change-fearing types.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such nonsense from these silly people&#8230; if everyone who tried tobacco went to pot, then coke and meth, wouldn&#8217;t many, many more people be meth addicts? Wouldn&#8217;t anybody who tried pot end up as a meth addict as well? I&#8217;m sick of illogical debating from these change-fearing types.</p>
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		<title>By: grape</title>
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		<dc:creator>grape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saying it is a gateway drug is like saying a shop display window is a gateway to shoplifting. shall we ban shop displays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saying it is a gateway drug is like saying a shop display window is a gateway to shoplifting. shall we ban shop displays?</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok first of all how can people say that marijuana is a gateway drug there is no proven evidence that it leads to people trying other things.  in fact most people dont even start with it they start with something like tobacco or alcohol so if anything THOSE are the gateway drugs blaim them.  and second of all it is indeed a medicine it helps with tons of different diseases like arthritis, parkinsons, and muscular diseases as well, not to mention morning sickness, anorexia, and depression</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok first of all how can people say that marijuana is a gateway drug there is no proven evidence that it leads to people trying other things.  in fact most people dont even start with it they start with something like tobacco or alcohol so if anything THOSE are the gateway drugs blaim them.  and second of all it is indeed a medicine it helps with tons of different diseases like arthritis, parkinsons, and muscular diseases as well, not to mention morning sickness, anorexia, and depression</p>
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