Bachmann falsely stated ACORN faces criminal charges

How many misstatements of the fact must somebody make before they have demonstrated that they are not fit for public service? Don’t people care whether their representatives are making informed choices or not?

Bunny,
This is an example of what happens when people vote based on their religious beliefs. Scary. She might be pretty little mouthpiece. But, she needs to keep her mouth shut. Not only is she an embarassment locally, she is making us the laughing stock of the nation.

This woman should not hold public office.

Ding-bat city.

This woman is unfit for office and my true sentiments would trigger the sensors.

Michele, why do you need to lie?

If you are so convinced of the “rightness” of your opinions, what is the need to invent and disseminate information that is nothing more than fantasy?

When you lie, you reinforce the growing public impression that you are nothing more than a fraud and a lying propagandist.

Bunny,
Nnfortunately, I suspect the majority of people in her district believe the same things she does, even when those beliefs are based on lies.

And the N isn’t even near the U…Unfortunately,……..

Bachmann/Palin – 2012!!
Bachmann/Palin – 2012!!

Tom:”I suspect the majority of people in her district believe the same things she does, even when those beliefs are based on lies.”

This is the definition of a Republican.

Do you remember how many people had died in South side of Chicago during hot summer? Dozens! Nobody care about them. As well as their senator Obama. So what? He became POTUS. Why somebody has problem with Bachmann? Both are politicians and liars.

Every night before I go to bed I come here to laugh my ass off over the daily Bachmann faux pas. Thanks to so many in the Sixth District, for giving us an endless supply of stupid humor. Laughing at you, not with you.

I’ll keep saying it, because it is true: Bachnut believes that the whacko flock will fall for her like they did for Slutty Sarah.

Bach saw what one wingnut in a skirt could do to the hypocritical Repub white male whackjobs and their closeted bisexual wives, and is turning on the rhetoric for 2012… She views herself as the next Reagan savior in heels on the rise.

I can’t wait for the “Nailin’ Palin” sequels: “Poppin’ Bachman”, “Backdoor Bachman”, “Rugburn Bachman”, “Bangin’ Bachman”, “Bachman Blows Bemidji” and “I Can See Canada From My Front Porch Bachman”.

ACORN’s statement saying that “The truth is, no criminal charges related to voter registration have ever been brought against ACORN, its leadership, or partner organizations” is provably false. Here’s what the St. Louis Dispatch reported in January:

ST. LOUIS — A voter registration worker with the group ACORN has been indicted on two felony counts of voter registration fraud.

Deidra Humphrey, 44, of East St. Louis, is expected to appear in U.S. District Court in St. Louis this week after a grand jury indicted her on the charges Dec. 31, according to the U.S. attorney’s office.

Humphrey is accused of submitting forged and false voter registration cards for the Nov. 8 general election — including forging cards for nursing home residents — U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway said Monday.

Forgive me for thinking that an East St. Louis woman employed by ACORN getting indicted limits the credibility of ACORN’s statement out of the water.

Humphrey worked for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and the Missouri Progressive Vote Coalition (ProVote), not-for-profit organizations active during campaign seasons in registering low-income and minority voters.

The indictment says some of the voter registrations Humphrey collected and submitted to election boards in St. Louis and St. Louis County between June and August were false. Humphrey worked separately for ACORN and ProVote.

That’s without talking about ACORN’s troubles in Nevada:

Bob Walsh, spokesman for the Nevada secretary of state’s office, told FOXNews.com the raid was prompted by ongoing complaints about “erroneous” registration information being submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

The group was submitting the information through a voter sign-up drive known as Project Vote.

“Some of them used nonexistent names, some of them used false addresses and some of them were duplicates of previously filed applications,” Walsh said, describing the complaints, which largely came from the registrar in Clark County, Nev.

Secretary of State Ross Miller said the fraudulent registrations included forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team.

That’s before talking about ACORN’s Seattle troubles:

But the most interesting news came out of Seattle, where on Thursday local prosecutors indicted seven workers for Acorn, a union-backed activist group that last year registered more than 540,000 low-income and minority voters nationwide and deployed more than 4,000 get-out-the-vote workers. The Acorn defendants stand accused of submitting phony forms in what Secretary of State Sam Reed says is the “worst case of voter-registration fraud in the history” of the state.
The list of “voters” registered in Washington state included former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, New York Times columnists Frank Rich and Tom Friedman, actress Katie Holmes and nonexistent people with nonsensical names such as Stormi Bays and Fruto Boy. The addresses used for the fake names were local homeless shelters. Given that the state doesn’t require the showing of any identification before voting, it is entirely possible people could have illegally voted using those names.

Other than those indictments, your ‘case’ against Michele Bachmann is airtight.

Gary, awesome post! I’d found the same thing by doing a simple google search, something apparently the likes of Jesus St. Jesus and Andy Birkey can’t do. I too, like Timmy above, find this website laughable. The people that post in here shooting from the hip er mouth with no facts to back up their comments is astounding. From the name calling to slamming everyone in the Sixth District (mine) and labeling us as religious zealots (hey lynno, so I go to church… that offends you? I believe in God… That offends you? This great nation which most of you have a practicing disdain for was built on strong conviction of faith among other things you know) or “believing anything she says.”
Here’s a quote from the story above: Sunday Alabi, an ACORN board member from Minnesota, said, “Michelle Bachman’s district had 5,934 foreclosures in 2008, more than any other Minnesota Congressional district. She should focus on stopping predatory lending and foreclosures, not attacking the organizations that are working hard everyday to protect Minnesotans’ homes.” Here’s another individual although factually right, does not desire to know how Wright County primarily had so many foreclosures. Fraud was rife. Loans were given to people who couldn’t afford a can of cat food. So anyone can throw out any amount of misinformation they want, but people, if you believe everything you read, particularily Mr. Birkeys, who has a viseral hatred for Cong. Bachmann and Conservatives in general, you are going to have some real issues in life.

Gary, you say that, “ACORN’s statement saying that ‘The truth is, no criminal charges related to voter registration have ever been brought against ACORN, its leadership, or partner organizations’ is provably false,” but you are wrong. The information you cite in support of your claim does not, in fact, prove that ACORN, its leadership, or partner organizations have had criminal charges brought against them OR that any of THEM engaged in voter registration fraud. Rather, it shows that some hourly employees of ACORN have submitted bogus registration forms — and in the process actually defrauded ACORN by turning in these bogus forms, since what they are paid to do is get LEGITIMATE registrations. That hourly workers turned in bogus forms does not show that this was done at the behest of or on the orders of ACORN, its leadership, or its partner organizations.

What would be ACORN’s motive for having people do this? It would not result in any ineligible individual actually voting, i.e., it would not result in VOTER fraud, which is what some people (you, for example) seem to think ACORN was engaged in. In fact, I suspect that you don’t actually understand the difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud, even though this was repeatedly explained during the Presidential campaign when the McCain-Palin team made the same allegations against ACORN — but I guess you were out for coffee or something when that was explained, huh?

The reason turning in bogus registrations cards with names like Mickey Mouse, the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys, or totally made up names will not result in voter fraud is that NO ONE WITH THOSE NAMES IS GOING TO SHOW UP IN THE PRECINCTS WHERE THESE “VOTERS” ARE REGISTERED AND TRY TO VOTE. Capice? (Probably not, because you seem a little dim.) In order for some ineligible person to try to vote based on a bogus registration card, that person would have to know to go to the correct precinct and claim to be “Mickey Mouse” or “Alonzo Coleman” or whoever, and how likely is that? How do you think such an ineligible voter would know that some jackass hourly ACORN worker had turned in a bogus registration card with that particular name, for that particular precinct? It makes not sense.

Seriously, before you start yapping about what is “provably false,” try to put a little effort into understanding what you’re talking about, e.g., what the “charge” actually is and whether the “evidence” you cite actually supports it.

Following up on my previous post, yes, Gary and Rick, a “simple google search” turned up the following article, apparently regarding the same Seattle indictment referred to by Gary. If you ACTUALLY READ THE ARTICLE, you’ll see that it says that ACORN was itself was one of the victims of the fraud. Do you still not get it? In a number of these cases around the country, ACORN itself actually brought the existence of the bogus registration forms to the attention of the authorities.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003806904_webvotefraud26m.html

Gary,

That article in no way contradicts what ACORN is saying. ACORN has not been charged, its leadership has not been charged, non of its partner organizations have been charged. These workers were payed by how many people they registered. These people were DEFRAUDING ACORN to get more money.

Theres no use to argue with those Sixth District north of the riverans, they’ll believe everything and anything that spews from their leader Michele Bachmann. I find it hilarious Gary would quote anything from FOXNews which has been proven time and again to include lying and Bush-biased correspondents and special guests, let alone their own propaganda love fest. Sixth District is like that crazy uncle in the family who everyone doesn’t like to talk about but has to deal with. Bless you Sixth District, in in a decade you went from a tradition of respected moderate politicians to a ding-bat crazy calling-from-God lunatic. Even adjectives would be understating the situation now.

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I agree with Jamie: “Bachmann/Palin – 2012!!”

Please, Republicans, do the right thing. I’ll even vote in your primary to ensure your party’s eternal demise.

I love to befuddle my Republican friends by asking then what is the bases for their belief…and my favorite comment is “well you know science is just lies propagated by people who know facts” I think that if Michelle Bachmann should propose that all contractors should not receive new contracts if they are under investigation for past wrong doings. The idea is sound but the partisanship is sad.

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As previously stated, Michelle Bachmann is and embarrassment to Minnesota and the United States of America. What will it take to shut her ignorant mouth? I would hope that the district she represents would move forward to eradicate this embarrassment to our great state. If not, they are just as stupid. Minnesotans are already perceived as “brain frozen” individuals. As long as incompetents like MB are allowed to fester in Washington, the nation and world will continue to look at us as total retards…

I cant wait for the bumper stickers (Palin Bachman 12)

Wow! This place is a reservior of hate. You don’t like Bachman, get out there and run against her. Let’s see how you do. How about taking a few shots at your hero Al Franken? He has said some things about minorities and women that should drive you crazy…..oh, that’s right, you can say these things with impunity if you are liberal. And Acorn is an upstanding, ethical organization? If they were a conservative leaning organization, you would be going out of your minds about their behavior. The truth is, most of you are misfits who hate the establishment because you think you have been excluded from it. What are your values? You have none, except to get even with your imaginary enemy, conservatives.

Give it a rest, “William Gates.” You wingnuts have long had a tradition of responding to any criticism of your saintly leaders with a loud “what about YOUR guy?!” That is not an answer; it is making noise to change the subject. By your “logic,” no one would criticize any politician unless they are backing someone who is demonstrably without flaws of any kind.

Truly, if your best defense is to shout “Al Franken! Al Franken!” then your cause truly is intellectually bankrupt.

William Gates (intersting choice – that) says:

> The truth is, most of you are misfits who hate the establishment >because you think you have been excluded from it.

Actually, as of now, we ARE the establishment. Who’s feeling excluded?

> What are your values?

Oh the usual: fair play for the non-privilaged; universal access to life’s necessities; foreign policy premised on our founding principles rather than on fear-mongering; extension of democratic decision-making both abroad and at home; and an end to the corporate/ rapturo-fascist thrall that’s f*cked up the country for the last 20+ years, including 8 years of the most despised administration ever.

What are YOUR values?

> You have none, except to get even with your imaginary enemy, conservatives.

Right.

We’re the ones talking about armed insurrection and secession. We’re the ones claiming that all of our political foes are “un-American”. We’re the ones who lie with impunity and with such mind-boggling consistency that we’re the laughing stock of the country.

You hypocritical SOBs.

As you put it to us after Bush’s coup d’etat: “You lost! Get over it!”

In related news, criminal charges were just filed against ACORN by the Nevada Attorney General and Secretary of State.

Links are our friends, Benson. From a May 4 report by a Las Vegas TV station:

The Nevada Attorney General and the Secretary of State have filed criminal charges against ACORN and two of its employees for compensating employees to register voters based on a quota system.

ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, has been under investigation for voter registration fraud.

In southern Nevada, authorities also uncovered evidence ACORN allowed corrections inmates in transitional facilities to handle registration paperwork which is illegal.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=10299051&nav=menu102_2

Thanks, Paul.

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I noticed all the hate-spewing leftists on this blog went SILENT when a link was provided that proved them WRONG, as usual.

Game. Set. Match.

May I quote Eric S: I noticed all the hate-spewing leftists on this blog went SILENT when a link was provided that proved them WRONG, as usual.
As for Kathleen McKinley, here’s the scoop, and this goes for the rest of you ACORN apologists. Nineteen states were found to have voter fraud with ties to ACORN. Guess what folks? Responsibility starts at the top. No one took responsibility, hence here come the Atty. Generals. As for the comment of registering voters and no-one voting… What rubbish. A well coordinated effort can throw a precinct. My parents are election judges and the attempts at inelligible people voting are astounding. My Dad says there is definitely more evidence of fraud in to lower income districts though. Most of you that have posted here are so filled with hate that it has blinded you from the truth.

But they’re not WRONG. This story is perfectly accurate: when it was written, no criminal charges were pending against ACORN. Period.

why bother the wingnuts that support the witch-hunts will continue to do so – MB reminds me of the same religious zealots who killed innocent people in the Salem witch hunts.

Careful Ma, your ignorance is showing…

What gets me are the people actually DEFENDING ACORN. You all endorse voter fraud? Do you endorse ACORN coming onto high school campuses to register voters? Here’s some fine backpeddling by ACORN chief Scott Levenson:
http://townhall.com/blog/g/2a1d144b-98b6-449f-830e-ebe222d7b1d9
And Bachmann’s statement regarding proposed legislation to terminate taxpayer money to groups like ACORN involved in voter fraud: http://bachmann.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=124987
Yesterday, the House Financial Services Committee passed my ACORN amendment that will prevent organizations, or employees of organizations, that have been indicted for voter fraud from being eligible for the housing counseling grants and legal assistance grants authorized under the Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act.

Chairman Barney Frank accepted the amendment right there in front of the whole committee — I assumed because it was his very own language as passed under the Housing and Economic Recovery Act (HERA) of 2008 — and the amendment was then passed by unanimous voice vote.

Later that day, Chairman Frank said he had reservations about my amendment and would discuss them with me. His staff approached mine with specific changes he would like to make — changes which eviscerate the meaning of the amendment and were clearly not acceptable. Again, this was puzzling given that it is identical to the language Chairman Frank included in HERA just last year.

Their changes include: Raising the bar from indictment to conviction to preclude an organization from getting taxpayer dollars, limiting the time the ban is in effect, and applying the standard to only senior employees. We’re talking about giving tax dollars to organizations that could be mixed up in criminal actions. Are we expected to keep forking over tax dollars to these organization when they’re under the cloud of suspicion of a public criminal indictment?

Who’s side are we on: The taxpayer or ACORN’s?

If nothing else, this shows us just how much influence ACORN and others have over Chairman Frank and the Democrat party. Your tax dollars are being abused.

You can’t argue with fact. This is part of the House record. Please refer to:
http://www.gop.gov/bill/111/1/hr1728 Here is the excerpt, about half way through the bill:
In addition, some Members have expressed concern that $140 million in the bill to establish a new HUD program to make grants for providing foreclosure legal assistance to low and moderate income homeowners could possibly be funneled to organizations that have been indicted, such as ACORN. A Republican amendment was accepted in the committee to block funding from streaming to indicted organizations, but Chairman Frank has expressed a desire to remove or modify the amendment when the bill is considered.

Rick, you still don’t get the difference between VOTER fraud and voter REGISTRATION fraud, do you? No, obviously not. Tsk tsk. Shame. Till you figure out the difference, you should stop foaming at the mouth, because you’re just revealing your ignorance.

Yeesh, Ms. McKinley get a grip. You’ve either read bits of my posts or you ma’am don’t get it. Please go read my post above, posted May 5, 2009 @ 5:23 am.
People can register AND vote that day in this state. That’s my point. ACORN or anyone else for that matter can get a concerted effort going and have groups of people flood one precinct and vouch for one another. Don’t tell me it isn’t done. The election judges are warned about this and to look for obvious forms of voter fraud, but the way the law is written, there’s little they can do about it. And of course if someones turned away, the first thing they do is run for a TV camera screaming disenfranchisment.
The one and only way to eliminate fraud is void same day registration. The other thing is when you do go to vote, you bring your blue registration card and a valid ID. Don’t give me the BS either about some people not having ID’s and can’t vote. Those people don’t vote to begin with and the ones you do see complaining have been seeked out by the media and put on a pedestal.
If you’re that damn dumb that you can’t get it together and be registered to vote ahead of time, you have issues.

The posters here against michelle bachman are usually requested by obama to go around and dispute the truth on blogs and websites. I say this because they have no facts just slurs and insults. Michelle Bachman is trying to save us from being taken by ACORN. Go to the Acorn 8 website and see how they found wade rathke in this for money. YOURS!

No one in real life will say the things mentioned here about Michelle Bachman. Only behind a computer screen anonymously. They know they are only supporting obama no matter what.

Exactly!

“The truth is, no criminal charges related to voter registration have ever been brought against ACORN, its leadership, or partner organizations,” the group said in a statement.”

This statement above is an outright LIE but what would anyone expect from such a corrupt and desipicable organization like ACORN.

ACORN plus leaders were indicted for voter registration fraud last week in Vegas… and I’m sure Vegas won’t be the only place to do that.

Frankly ACORN should receive ZERO dollars from the federal government EVER. They are NOT non-partisan as they state, which violates the reasoning behind getting federal dollars.

Kudos to Michele Bachmann for trying to get these scum off of our tax dole.

Oh and ACORN has been indicted for years for voter registration fraud… criminal charges have been handed down to their employees… not sure how many or when but they have…

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009189

They should NEVER receive any money from the U.S… not one dime. And Obama is going to have them help with the 2010 census? That alone tells you just how corrupt the Chicago politician in the White House is… nevermind everything else.

Well said Kimberly!
This mini debate between Bachmann and Frank should get good. Frank gets flustered pretty easily then starts throwing insults so this should be fun to watch.
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann on CNN with Lou Dobbs

Monday, May 18th 6:20 pm CT

Regarding Taxpayer Funding for ACORN

Bachmann will debate Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA), Chairman of the Financial Services Committee

How many misstatements of the fact must somebody make before they have demonstrated that they are not fit for public service? Don’t people care whether their representatives are making informed choices or not?

I agree Max! Impeach Pelosi!

Liberals, check your Politifacts: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-vadum/2009/06/03/biased-politifact-com-covers-acorn-attacks-michele-bachmann

at what point can Acorn or it’s workers sue for defamation? I don’t understand why she can say lie after lie and not held accountable. I would think the director of Acorn and it’s workers could due in civil court.

Pelosi is a fool and most likely mentally ill and delusional. Bachman, on the other hand, is typically rational, aside from the irrational religious notions she keeps.