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	<title>Comments on: Coleman files appeal with state Supreme Court, cites &#8216;disparities&#8217; in ballot tally</title>
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		<title>By: 6th Dist Grandpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>6th Dist Grandpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: K.J. Boyer... 

Careful, you risk confusing some in here with the facts about how those votes were or were not counted.  Most obviously prefer their sound-bites &amp; headlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: K.J. Boyer&#8230; </p>
<p>Careful, you risk confusing some in here with the facts about how those votes were or were not counted.  Most obviously prefer their sound-bites &amp; headlines.</p>
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		<title>By: K.J Boyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.J Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last comments disappeared.
Why does MInnesota allow people to register to vote, and vote on the same day--people can drive all over the state and vote many times. One doesn&#039;t need to ba a rocket scientist to see the opportunity for fraud.Even California closes the registration period 2 weeks before the vote.
How many times did the votes have to be recounted before Franken came out ahead?
How many precincts turned in more votes than there were registered voters?
How many precinct workers produced ballots after the election, that had been forgotten in the trunk of a car for over 24 hours?
How embarassing that my former State can not acknowledge voter fraud and call another election--it would be less expensive than all the recounts and legal procedures.  
It is sad that people are so willing to twist the law, lie and cheat to accomplish their goal of gaining complete control of every citizen&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last comments disappeared.<br />
Why does MInnesota allow people to register to vote, and vote on the same day&#8211;people can drive all over the state and vote many times. One doesn&#8217;t need to ba a rocket scientist to see the opportunity for fraud.Even California closes the registration period 2 weeks before the vote.<br />
How many times did the votes have to be recounted before Franken came out ahead?<br />
How many precincts turned in more votes than there were registered voters?<br />
How many precinct workers produced ballots after the election, that had been forgotten in the trunk of a car for over 24 hours?<br />
How embarassing that my former State can not acknowledge voter fraud and call another election&#8211;it would be less expensive than all the recounts and legal procedures.<br />
It is sad that people are so willing to twist the law, lie and cheat to accomplish their goal of gaining complete control of every citizen&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: smoker bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>smoker bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 02:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob Sixta

Norm would have to be honorable to do that.</description>
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<p>Norm would have to be honorable to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Dugdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite odd that Norm finds the MN electoral system &quot;unacceptable in any election&quot;, when he seemed satisfied with that system giving him a previous victory. Is Coleman acknowledging that his 2002 plurality win was not legitimate?

The bottom line is that these &quot;disparate standards&quot; are LEGAL under MN State law. These disparate standards do not inherently disadvantage any Party, either. 

Coleman&#039;s mantra of &quot;count every vote&quot; is a dismal lie, considering he does not want every vote counted - only the disputed ballots of his supporters.

If one were to put any State&#039;s election system under a microscope, certainly some kind of ugliness could be found. Was Coleman not aware of how Minnesota&#039;s election system worked prior to the election? Or did he merely presume that these &quot;disparate standards&quot; would work in his favour and thus be &quot;okay&quot;?

Why has Pawlenty avoided making a public statement that he will abide by the MNSC&#039;s decision? That simple act would reveal an end to this charade. Instead, Pawlenty is leaving the door open for years of federal suits by Coleman. 

I guess that we can put Coleman&#039;s Nov. 5 statements that he has &quot;complete confidence&quot; in Minnesota&#039;s election system as one of those things he didn&#039;t mean because was tired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite odd that Norm finds the MN electoral system &#8220;unacceptable in any election&#8221;, when he seemed satisfied with that system giving him a previous victory. Is Coleman acknowledging that his 2002 plurality win was not legitimate?</p>
<p>The bottom line is that these &#8220;disparate standards&#8221; are LEGAL under MN State law. These disparate standards do not inherently disadvantage any Party, either. </p>
<p>Coleman&#8217;s mantra of &#8220;count every vote&#8221; is a dismal lie, considering he does not want every vote counted &#8211; only the disputed ballots of his supporters.</p>
<p>If one were to put any State&#8217;s election system under a microscope, certainly some kind of ugliness could be found. Was Coleman not aware of how Minnesota&#8217;s election system worked prior to the election? Or did he merely presume that these &#8220;disparate standards&#8221; would work in his favour and thus be &#8220;okay&#8221;?</p>
<p>Why has Pawlenty avoided making a public statement that he will abide by the MNSC&#8217;s decision? That simple act would reveal an end to this charade. Instead, Pawlenty is leaving the door open for years of federal suits by Coleman. </p>
<p>I guess that we can put Coleman&#8217;s Nov. 5 statements that he has &#8220;complete confidence&#8221; in Minnesota&#8217;s election system as one of those things he didn&#8217;t mean because was tired.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norm Coleman should take the honorable action and congratulate Senator elect Al Franken and offer support so that Minnesotan and the nation can move forward addressing the grave issues facing our state and the country.  On the other hand, if I were Norm I&#039;m not sure I would willingly return to the dark side of Bush/Cheney  supporters and tell them &quot;Look fellas we had a good run, but  
misplaced our integrity and honorable action&quot;.  For some reason those folks don&#039;t strike me as being from Lake Wobegon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm Coleman should take the honorable action and congratulate Senator elect Al Franken and offer support so that Minnesotan and the nation can move forward addressing the grave issues facing our state and the country.  On the other hand, if I were Norm I&#8217;m not sure I would willingly return to the dark side of Bush/Cheney  supporters and tell them &#8220;Look fellas we had a good run, but<br />
misplaced our integrity and honorable action&#8221;.  For some reason those folks don&#8217;t strike me as being from Lake Wobegon.</p>
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		<title>By: AliceJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AliceJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 08:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coleman talks like he knows what&#039;s on the ballots not included.  Is there reason for him to think that they would change the outcome or is he capable fooling himself, or of trying to fool everybody else?    I hope he wins so we can find out if he is being a fool or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coleman talks like he knows what&#8217;s on the ballots not included.  Is there reason for him to think that they would change the outcome or is he capable fooling himself, or of trying to fool everybody else?    I hope he wins so we can find out if he is being a fool or not.</p>
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		<title>By: smoker bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>smoker bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 06:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coleman knows he can&#039;t win.

All this is at this point is a plan being funded by nationwide GOP parties to keep Minnesota disenfranchised as long as possible, keeping us from proper representation.

Taking out of state money to keep this charade running should be illegal, it&#039;s certainly unethical.

And I just love how ineffectual Pawlenty is.  He doesn&#039;t want to seat Franken, so instead, he&#039;s doing absolutely nothing.  

Vote Pawlenty out next!  His nearly billion dollar ball park could have gone to other, better expenditures.  This public support of private playpens for millionaires is disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coleman knows he can&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>All this is at this point is a plan being funded by nationwide GOP parties to keep Minnesota disenfranchised as long as possible, keeping us from proper representation.</p>
<p>Taking out of state money to keep this charade running should be illegal, it&#8217;s certainly unethical.</p>
<p>And I just love how ineffectual Pawlenty is.  He doesn&#8217;t want to seat Franken, so instead, he&#8217;s doing absolutely nothing.  </p>
<p>Vote Pawlenty out next!  His nearly billion dollar ball park could have gone to other, better expenditures.  This public support of private playpens for millionaires is disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: gonzoodle</title>
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		<dc:creator>gonzoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 02:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just milking the slow judicial system as far as it will go.  Stretching the 10 day appeal period...and so on.  The state supreme court will uphold the judges decision, at that point all Minnesota state options will be exhausted, and according to the law, Franken should be certified and seated.

The last slowdown glitch could be the Rep. Governor, who simply has to put his signature on the final certification.  He has no basis not to, since there is no other recourse to take the case further in the state, but....yep, purest partisan politics.

I do not think the US court has the gall to intervene in a state matter...but then again, in 2000, they threw out over 100,000,000 votes and counted only 9 votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just milking the slow judicial system as far as it will go.  Stretching the 10 day appeal period&#8230;and so on.  The state supreme court will uphold the judges decision, at that point all Minnesota state options will be exhausted, and according to the law, Franken should be certified and seated.</p>
<p>The last slowdown glitch could be the Rep. Governor, who simply has to put his signature on the final certification.  He has no basis not to, since there is no other recourse to take the case further in the state, but&#8230;.yep, purest partisan politics.</p>
<p>I do not think the US court has the gall to intervene in a state matter&#8230;but then again, in 2000, they threw out over 100,000,000 votes and counted only 9 votes.</p>
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		<title>By: geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Norm.  While you are at it, I was not thrilled with the won loss record of the Twins last season.  You know a switch of 2 games would have made a huge difference.  You think you could get the court to change that outcome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Norm.  While you are at it, I was not thrilled with the won loss record of the Twins last season.  You know a switch of 2 games would have made a huge difference.  You think you could get the court to change that outcome?</p>
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		<title>By: EK</title>
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		<dc:creator>EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deliberate and disparate?

The Coleman camp is arguing that there was a conspiracy between counties to deliberately apply different standards?  Good luck proving that one.  

The burden of proof is, as always, upon the plaintiff.  So far, Coleman hasn&#039;t proved anything to the satisfaction of the Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deliberate and disparate?</p>
<p>The Coleman camp is arguing that there was a conspiracy between counties to deliberately apply different standards?  Good luck proving that one.  </p>
<p>The burden of proof is, as always, upon the plaintiff.  So far, Coleman hasn&#8217;t proved anything to the satisfaction of the Court.</p>
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