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		<title>By: John Dorsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dorsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congresswoman McCollum -
     First - One cannot obtain a concealed carry permit without paying for and attending and passing a Hand Gun Safety Class - issued by the applicants home state or a state with whom the applicants state has reciprocity in this matter. IE possession of a Utah State Concealed Carry Permit is good in 30 States at this time. 
    Second - The permit applicant will be checked out through FBI, local law enforcement, and NCIC.
     Third - An applicant whom has been convicted of 2 Class I Misdomeanors within 5 years is inelligible.IE Tresspass, disorderly Conduct. An applicant with 3 drunk driving convictions is ineligible. An applicant whom has EVER been under a restraining order is ineligible. 
     Fourth - Legally present persons (Not illegal aliens - not tourists) are the only persons eligible to apply. 
     Fifth - the dirty truth is - our National Parks and our State Parks are conduits for felons - rental of a spot to pitch a tent near a hot shower is very cheap and BELIEVE ME there are felons camped in your beloved park tonight. 
     Registration and restrictions will never prevent criminals from obtaining guns - they steal them, buy from straw buyers (criminals themselves), or obtain them from friends. We recently had a licensed concealed carry person involved in a jewlery store robbery here in Leesburg VA. He was on the sidewalk and had the opportunity to shoot the subject but could not in his opinion do so safely - too many civilians on the sidewalk. He did follow the robber and alerted the Police as to his location - a 20 hour stand off ensued. The convicted felon who did the robbery was not eligible to obtain a hand gun and held an elderly couple hostage with a pistol and a rifle he had ILLEGALLY in his possession.
     You might consider obtaining such a permit yourself as a means of obtaining excellent information in these matters - and thus gain an informed insight. You do not have to buy a gun but you need to understand the 2nd Ammendment. You and I breathe the same air in Washington Metro - you cannot tell me you feel safe in the parking garage of every mall in the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congresswoman McCollum -<br />
     First &#8211; One cannot obtain a concealed carry permit without paying for and attending and passing a Hand Gun Safety Class &#8211; issued by the applicants home state or a state with whom the applicants state has reciprocity in this matter. IE possession of a Utah State Concealed Carry Permit is good in 30 States at this time.<br />
    Second &#8211; The permit applicant will be checked out through FBI, local law enforcement, and NCIC.<br />
     Third &#8211; An applicant whom has been convicted of 2 Class I Misdomeanors within 5 years is inelligible.IE Tresspass, disorderly Conduct. An applicant with 3 drunk driving convictions is ineligible. An applicant whom has EVER been under a restraining order is ineligible.<br />
     Fourth &#8211; Legally present persons (Not illegal aliens &#8211; not tourists) are the only persons eligible to apply.<br />
     Fifth &#8211; the dirty truth is &#8211; our National Parks and our State Parks are conduits for felons &#8211; rental of a spot to pitch a tent near a hot shower is very cheap and BELIEVE ME there are felons camped in your beloved park tonight.<br />
     Registration and restrictions will never prevent criminals from obtaining guns &#8211; they steal them, buy from straw buyers (criminals themselves), or obtain them from friends. We recently had a licensed concealed carry person involved in a jewlery store robbery here in Leesburg VA. He was on the sidewalk and had the opportunity to shoot the subject but could not in his opinion do so safely &#8211; too many civilians on the sidewalk. He did follow the robber and alerted the Police as to his location &#8211; a 20 hour stand off ensued. The convicted felon who did the robbery was not eligible to obtain a hand gun and held an elderly couple hostage with a pistol and a rifle he had ILLEGALLY in his possession.<br />
     You might consider obtaining such a permit yourself as a means of obtaining excellent information in these matters &#8211; and thus gain an informed insight. You do not have to buy a gun but you need to understand the 2nd Ammendment. You and I breathe the same air in Washington Metro &#8211; you cannot tell me you feel safe in the parking garage of every mall in the area.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art -

You slimy dog. You already made your part 2 sequel for us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCezcAHXxRY&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=0DFEE4D406F11490&amp;index=1

Don’t opening my car door - loser.............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art -</p>
<p>You slimy dog. You already made your part 2 sequel for us.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCezcAHXxRY&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=0DFEE4D406F11490&amp;index=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCezcAHXxRY&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=0DFEE4D406F11490&amp;index=1</a></p>
<p>Don’t opening my car door &#8211; loser&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art – 

I searched the entire internet for that machine gun killing at McDonalds.  I must say that I came up empty. Perhaps it’s hidden in the Nancy Pelosi “The CIA lied to me” folder. We’ll just have to believe that it’s true, and that you know what is best for all of the citizenry.

I did run across the “Art Carney Story” in my search. I encourage everybody to watch your video &quot;the downgrading of my profession&quot;. Poor Art.

Sad Story -&gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER8Ieop6_Jc


Perhaps you can move to S.F. and become a gay rights activist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art – </p>
<p>I searched the entire internet for that machine gun killing at McDonalds.  I must say that I came up empty. Perhaps it’s hidden in the Nancy Pelosi “The CIA lied to me” folder. We’ll just have to believe that it’s true, and that you know what is best for all of the citizenry.</p>
<p>I did run across the “Art Carney Story” in my search. I encourage everybody to watch your video &#8220;the downgrading of my profession&#8221;. Poor Art.</p>
<p>Sad Story -&gt; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER8Ieop6_Jc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER8Ieop6_Jc</a></p>
<p>Perhaps you can move to S.F. and become a gay rights activist.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art Carney is your typical liberal moron.  The Bill of Rights was drafted for individual rights.  It cannot be read any other way.

The Founding Fathers could not have anticipated the stupidity of the Art Carney’s of the future world.  He’s probably a convicted felon that posses a gun illegally to commit his crimes.  Individual freedoms under the 2nd Amendment are eating into his livelihood. 

They always play the way left card for other benefits.  Hey Art I thought you had to be in Massachusetts to marry Jackie Gleason today – You’re not pursuing happiness – You’re just looking for some free insurance benefits that you don’t deserve?

Yep the Fathers of this Nation never saw the California Pelosi Fruitcakes coming - Commune Hippies going through their acid flashbacks.  

I’m hungry and feeling pretty free - I think I’ll go out and get a Big Mac with my kids………………</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Carney is your typical liberal moron.  The Bill of Rights was drafted for individual rights.  It cannot be read any other way.</p>
<p>The Founding Fathers could not have anticipated the stupidity of the Art Carney’s of the future world.  He’s probably a convicted felon that posses a gun illegally to commit his crimes.  Individual freedoms under the 2nd Amendment are eating into his livelihood. </p>
<p>They always play the way left card for other benefits.  Hey Art I thought you had to be in Massachusetts to marry Jackie Gleason today – You’re not pursuing happiness – You’re just looking for some free insurance benefits that you don’t deserve?</p>
<p>Yep the Fathers of this Nation never saw the California Pelosi Fruitcakes coming &#8211; Commune Hippies going through their acid flashbacks.  </p>
<p>I’m hungry and feeling pretty free &#8211; I think I’ll go out and get a Big Mac with my kids………………</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Reiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Reiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Art Carney, you&#039;re embarrassing yourself. In the first place, there have been no incidents where anyone has entered a McDonald&#039;s with an automatic weapon &quot;to kill large numbers of people.&quot; In the second place, whether such a thing had ever happened or not, automatic weapons (also known as machine guns) are illegal in the US so this law wouldn&#039;t have any affect on your firearm-phobic scenario. In the third place, your view of the interpretation of the Second Amendment has been repudiated by the Supreme Court and Harvard Law, and you should get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Art Carney, you&#8217;re embarrassing yourself. In the first place, there have been no incidents where anyone has entered a McDonald&#8217;s with an automatic weapon &#8220;to kill large numbers of people.&#8221; In the second place, whether such a thing had ever happened or not, automatic weapons (also known as machine guns) are illegal in the US so this law wouldn&#8217;t have any affect on your firearm-phobic scenario. In the third place, your view of the interpretation of the Second Amendment has been repudiated by the Supreme Court and Harvard Law, and you should get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: TSgt B</title>
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		<dc:creator>TSgt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betty,

     Since, as evidenced by your comments, you do not possess the basic intellect or allegiance to your Sworn Oath of Office to protect and defend the Constitutiion of the United States of America,

RESIGN, IMMEDIATELY, and forfeit your taxpayer-supplied pension and benefits.

It is moronic power-hungry despots such as yourself that are the PROBLEM. Go out from amongst us, Satan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betty,</p>
<p>     Since, as evidenced by your comments, you do not possess the basic intellect or allegiance to your Sworn Oath of Office to protect and defend the Constitutiion of the United States of America,</p>
<p>RESIGN, IMMEDIATELY, and forfeit your taxpayer-supplied pension and benefits.</p>
<p>It is moronic power-hungry despots such as yourself that are the PROBLEM. Go out from amongst us, Satan.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voyageurs National Park?  It that like your Minnesota Boundary Waters where you guys had all those terrorist problems two years ago that made the national news?  Those victims (unarmed) were threatened with rape and death while seeking enjoyment, recreation, and peace in your lovely state.

Strike One for Betty (Story) -&gt; http://www.timberjay.com/current.php?article=5293

If I’m on Namakan, Kabetogama, or Rainy with my family and one of your Minnesota meth addicts come into my camp and threatens any of my family – I’m dropping them like a stone. 

The criminals now know about the new law so they would be smart to stay away (enjoyment, recreation, and peace once again)

Betty needs to focus on Minnesota’s drug and domestic terrorism problems and not worry so much about law-abiding citizen who are protected by the 2nd Amendment.

Typical liberal “I know what’s best for you”

She’s a Laugher!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voyageurs National Park?  It that like your Minnesota Boundary Waters where you guys had all those terrorist problems two years ago that made the national news?  Those victims (unarmed) were threatened with rape and death while seeking enjoyment, recreation, and peace in your lovely state.</p>
<p>Strike One for Betty (Story) -&gt; <a href="http://www.timberjay.com/current.php?article=5293" rel="nofollow">http://www.timberjay.com/current.php?article=5293</a></p>
<p>If I’m on Namakan, Kabetogama, or Rainy with my family and one of your Minnesota meth addicts come into my camp and threatens any of my family – I’m dropping them like a stone. </p>
<p>The criminals now know about the new law so they would be smart to stay away (enjoyment, recreation, and peace once again)</p>
<p>Betty needs to focus on Minnesota’s drug and domestic terrorism problems and not worry so much about law-abiding citizen who are protected by the 2nd Amendment.</p>
<p>Typical liberal “I know what’s best for you”</p>
<p>She’s a Laugher!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie J
Comment posted May 22, 2009 @ 10:22 am

&quot;It is a terrible idea. I used to work for Glacier National Park! Do they have no lobby at the legislature anymore?! This isn’t just about protecting people, it is about protecting wildlife. Do you know how many people want to go in to these wildlife reserves and shoot bears?&quot;

Do YOU? Do you have any data to support that rhetorical question.

Are you suggesting that law-abiding gun owners are just dying to go out and blow away protected wildlife? If someone DID want to do that, do you suppose that a silly law would stop them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie J<br />
Comment posted May 22, 2009 @ 10:22 am</p>
<p>&#8220;It is a terrible idea. I used to work for Glacier National Park! Do they have no lobby at the legislature anymore?! This isn’t just about protecting people, it is about protecting wildlife. Do you know how many people want to go in to these wildlife reserves and shoot bears?&#8221;</p>
<p>Do YOU? Do you have any data to support that rhetorical question.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that law-abiding gun owners are just dying to go out and blow away protected wildlife? If someone DID want to do that, do you suppose that a silly law would stop them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mill
Comment posted May 22, 2009 @ 8:34 am


&quot;Have there been numerous acts of violence in parks - &quot;

There are enough, and if it saves one life, it&#039;s worth it.

&quot;so many that we’d prefer untrained citizens to help augment well-trained ranger and park police in securing the public safety in camp grounds.&quot;

Yes. The history of concealed carry shows that these &quot;untrained&quot; citizens are fully capable of protecting themselves and others. Besides, these citizens are not charged with &quot;securing public safety in camp grounds&quot;, only with securing their OWN safety within the park. Leaving aside the statement that rangers and park police are &quot;well-trained&quot;, it is obvious to anyone that these guardians will almost never be around when you are assaulted. 

 &quot;Really?&quot;

Yes, REALLY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mill<br />
Comment posted May 22, 2009 @ 8:34 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Have there been numerous acts of violence in parks &#8211; &#8221;</p>
<p>There are enough, and if it saves one life, it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
<p>&#8220;so many that we’d prefer untrained citizens to help augment well-trained ranger and park police in securing the public safety in camp grounds.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. The history of concealed carry shows that these &#8220;untrained&#8221; citizens are fully capable of protecting themselves and others. Besides, these citizens are not charged with &#8220;securing public safety in camp grounds&#8221;, only with securing their OWN safety within the park. Leaving aside the statement that rangers and park police are &#8220;well-trained&#8221;, it is obvious to anyone that these guardians will almost never be around when you are assaulted. </p>
<p> &#8220;Really?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, REALLY.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a terrible idea.  I used to work for Glacier National Park!  Do they have no lobby at the legislature anymore?!  This isn&#039;t just about protecting people, it is about protecting wildlife.  Do you know how many people want to go in to these wildlife reserves and shoot bears?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a terrible idea.  I used to work for Glacier National Park!  Do they have no lobby at the legislature anymore?!  This isn&#8217;t just about protecting people, it is about protecting wildlife.  Do you know how many people want to go in to these wildlife reserves and shoot bears?</p>
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