
Norm Coleman and Al Franken (Photos: WDCpix.com)
Every ballot tells a story. Or maybe it doesn’t.
That’s the debate that attorneys for Al Franken and Norm Coleman grappled with in oral arguments this morning before the Minnesota Supreme Court in the U.S. Senate election contest. Following a seven-week trial — which featured 142 witnesses and roughly 20,000 pages of legal documents — a three-judge panel determined that Franken won the election by 312 votes.
Joe Friedberg, Coleman’s lead attorney, argued today that there were widespread disparities across the state among which absentee ballots were rejected. He wants the case remanded to the three-judge panel so that roughly 4,400 additional absentee ballots can be considered for inclusion in the vote tally. In particular, Friedberg argued that Franken-friendly areas of the state applied a more lenient standard in accepting ballots.
“If people from around the state had all cast their ballots in Minneapolis or Ramsey County, there’d be half as many rejected ballots,” Friedberg said. “That’s what the numbers show.”
But Marc Elias, Franken’s lead recount attorney, countered that some variance in the election system is necessary to allow for efficient and effective elections. He further stated that Coleman had failed to present evidence of specific ballots that were improperly rejected.
“Don’t tell us there are some 4,400,” Elias said. “Tell us which are the ballots.”
Most legal analysts believe that Coleman faces an extremely difficult task in convincing the Supreme Court to overturn the ruling of the panel. Perhaps indicative of that, Friedberg faced persistent interruptions and questioning throughout his arguments.
“I am very bothered by your offer of proof,” Justice Paul Anderson stated at one point, echoing the Franken camp’s assertion. “They’re basically just lists, lists of names.”
Friedberg countered that the trial court failed to allow them to introduce the specific evidence necessary to make their case. “I couldn’t get it in, and I tried to the point where I strained the court’s patience.” he said. “I didn’t want to go any further than that.”
Justice Alan Page questioned whether Coleman had reversed his legal arguments, citing a previous court document in which he’d argued for a strict enforcement of the state’s standards for what absentee ballots should be accepted. “Is that consistent with the argument you make today?” Page asked.
“No sir, it’s not consistent,” Friedberg acknowledged. “When we realized that whether your vote counted depended on where you lived, we changed.”
Elias received slightly more delicate treatment from the justices. He argued that the universe of contested absentee ballots is only about 300 — or slightly less than the lead currently held by Franken.
“It would still be impossible for the appellants to make up the difference,” Elias said. “Al Franken received more lawfully cast ballots on election day than Senator Coleman.”
Justices Christopher Dietzen and Lorie Skjerven Gildea were most vigorous in pressing Elias on the issue of whether illegal ballots had been accepted. In particular, Dietzen queried Franken’s attorney on ballot envelopes that lacked a witness signature. Elias conceded that it’s likely some ballots were improperly counted, but that such judgments can only be made after considering a full history of the ballot.
“We don’t know the story behind that ballot,” he said, noting that there could have been a replacement ballot. “There are reasons why the election officials accepted and rejected ballots.”
Friedberg, however, questioned the narrative value of each individual ballot, arguing that the disparities in the system were systemic. “Every ballot doesn’t tell a story,” he said.
Coleman has vowed to continue pursuing the legal contest and has been egged on by the Republican leadership in Washington. If Franken takes office he would become the 60th Democratic senator, giving President Obama a filibuster-proof majority.
Franken has asked the Supreme Court to order Gov. Tim Pawlenty to issue an election certificate, thus paving the way for him to be seated in Washington. But the Republican Governor has suggested that he might not sign a certificate even if the state’s top court rules in Franken’s favor.
Only five justices are hearing the case. Two justices, Eric Magnuson and G. Barry Anderson, recused themselves owing to their participation in the State Canvassing Board that initially certified Franken the winner back in January. The justices gave no indication when they would rule on the matter.
“We shall take this matter under advisement and an opinion will be forthcoming,” Page said at the close of the hearing.













9 Comments »
Comment posted June 1, 2009 @ 1:28 pm
I was struck by Justice Page’s first question for Ellis which trended on jurisdiction and that the Senate could decide who and when to seat Minnesota’s Senator. With the justices deciding the case today but taking month(es) to issue a formal ruling, Page is essentially telling everybody “Don’t blame us, the Senate can decide anytime they want.” This was previously stated in the Franken -v- Pawlenty lawsuit.
That begs the question whether Page was tipping his hand as to how he will vote ?
Comment posted June 1, 2009 @ 7:05 pm
Can we just rule Norman and his high priced lawyer in contempt now?
“It’s always a tricky business to read clues into the questions that judges ask the lawyers during these proceedings — despite some basic assumptions about how this works, judges can surprise you. But if we just go by the basic assumptions, it didn’t look good for Coleman, with the judges asking pointed questions of Friedberg that at certain points amounted to ridicule of him for putting on a shoddy case.”
At one point, Justice Christopher Dietzen went over Team Coleman’s written offers of proof — filings of proposed evidence that an attorney makes when a trial court won’t admit it as official evidence, but he wants to preserve it for future appeals. “I’ve never seen an offer of proof like this,” said Dietzen, complaining that the offers didn’t actually identify specific potential witnesses or what their presumed evidence would have been been — only continued arguments that “a substantial number” of ballots exist. Dietzen added that “the rules of evidence, the rules of civil procedure apply. Now why is this offer of proof not inadequate, in that we don’t have admissible evidence that can show whether you’ve met your burden?”–TPM
“Justice Helen Meyer, … asked Friedberg why he did not compile evidence from all counties, as opposed to about two dozen, to prove their case about unequal treatment. “You’re asking us to presume that, based on the evidence of a sampling of counties,” said Meyer.”–TPM
I have no case, I’m just setting things up for my appeals.
Comment posted June 1, 2009 @ 9:46 pm
Has Franken’s photo been reversed? The stripes on his tie run in the British direction – opposite to the American way.
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 1:48 am
A Dollar a Day to Make Norm Coleman Go Away
Let’s give Norm a hint:
Republicans in DC know Al Franken won.
But they are bankrolling Norm Coleman’s continued court challenges in Minnesota to keep Al Franken out of the Senate.
There was no downside to this Republican strategy–until now!
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Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
Hopefully when the State supreme court rules in Franken’s favor they include and order to the Governor to certify Franken. Pawlenty can either follow that order or face charges.
Pawlenty would probably welcome and order to certify from the court as it would absolve him of any political consequences of making the choice himself.
Comment posted June 9, 2009 @ 10:30 am
The voting and results of the Coleman vs Franken for United States Senate seat is very suspicious and fraudulent. How can you rule on a case that had Coleman ahead by approximately 225 and because a recount was necessary the recount was full of terrible mistakes? Instead of a complete recount of the votes, there was a selection of precincts that favored Franken chosen and there were more votes counted than the number of voters in the precincts. All of the absentee ballots were not counted.
This is America and Americans believe in truth and their rights as citizens. It seems to me that the recount should be complete and with honest people overseeing it. We are experiencing the worst time I can remember where our rights as citizens are not upheld. Leaders are ruining our country for all of us who want to preserve our great country.
Please use your care when making your decision about this race. It is an important race for the whole country.
Sincerely,
Ann Erickson
Comment posted June 10, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Really? You’ve forgotten the 2000 presidential fiasco already? Or does that not count because it went the other way than this one seems to be heading? Hypocrisy knows no bounds…
Comment posted June 26, 2009 @ 11:54 am
Maybe the voters of MN have learned a lesson, never again vote for another Republican. In doing so you want have big out of state GOP money coming in to deny you representation. The governor is also acting like a jerk in this situation. I guess he is looking for conservative support in the GOP for a future run.
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