CJ: Her middle name is ‘Scoop’
Wednesday, April 09, 2008 at 4:54 pm
In retrospect, maybe I should’ve left this alone, but when I saw that the Star Tribune’s gossip columnist C.J. was claiming a scoop on the news that WCCO meteorologist Paul Douglas’ bio was gone from the station’s website, I dropped her what I intended as a polite, collegial email, inquiring about it. A relative latecomer to the Douglas story, I was doubtful my story, which was published before I read C.J.’s, broke the news, but I figured I’d ask. To suggest I wasn’t interested in claiming the glory, I offhandedly wrote that “either way” — whether I was there first or she beat me to it, as it appears she did — it was a minor scoop; meaning, nothing worth fighting over. (Seymour Hirsch and Abu Ghraib: major. The Downing Street Memo: major. What happened to the weatherman’s bio at WCCO.com: not so much, right?)
She didn’t like that one bit and fired off a series of emails, followed up by a call Wednesday afternoon. She wanted to know if I was a “real person,” she said, because she’s including our exchange in her next column. She went on to quiz me on her track record: “I broke the story that Paul Magers is leaving town. Is that ‘minor’? How about Prince’s divorce?” As she’ll be referencing our conversation in the Strib, I figured I’d run it verbatim here first — gaining the Almighty Scoop!
What does it prove? Not much, other than, perhaps, being one of America’s last remaining daily-news gossip writers seems to be mighty peculiar territory.
Read the emails after the jump
from Paul Schmelzer
to CJ
4/7/2008 3:19 PMHey C.J.
With all due respect, I’m wondering if maybe you didn’t break news about Paul Douglas’ bio being scrubbed from the ‘CCO site. Maybe Strib timestamps don’t work properly (or maybe the timestamp changes when you make updates?), but I mentioned it at 2:45 on Friday (yours says 4:47). At any rate, it’s a minor scoop either way, and congrats on your recent coverage of the shakeup there.cheers,
Paul
from CJ
to Paul Schmelzer
Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:14 AMI broke it.
Don’t believe me. Ask my editor Kathleen Clonts 673.7301.
One colleague congratulated me on the scoop as I was walking down the hallway, about 15 minutes before CBS confirmed it for the story Justin posted.The time stamps do change with updates. I have no idea why that story is carrying a 4:47 p.m. time stamp, since the last time I changed it was around 2 p.m. I broke it around 1:30 p.m.
You, do realize the last sentence of your e-mail is charmingly passive-aggressive.
With all the blogs and monitors out there, I’ll take a minor scoop. Were it truly “minor” you would not bother to minimize it. Based on the reactions of readers, it was not exactly minor. Excuse my typos. I don’t know how work the e-mail spell checker. ~ C.J.
from Paul Schmelzer
to CJ
date Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:27 AMCJ,
Sheesh. You misread me. I have no ill will and intended no passive aggression with my last line. Email is such a bad medium for conveying, well, anything.
from CJ
to Paul Schmelzer
Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:43 AMLet”s analyze…
At any rate…. a phrase setting up the minimization of something a minor scoop either way…… minor–definition lacking importance and congrats on your recent coverage of the shakeup there… the shakeup was important but your “scoop” was still minor in importance.
You are write about the limitations of e-mail when it comes to conveying intent.
One of my shortcomings is not that I am passive-aggressive it is that I CAN BE aggressive-aggresive.
from Paul Schmelzer
to CJ
Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:08 PMNice analysis, but wrong. Take me at my word, that’s all I can say.
from CJ
to Paul Schmelzer
Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:12 PMI don’t take these things personally. I don’t know you. You don’t hurt my feelings. I shall take you at your word regarding my minor scoop. Now, the interview with the grandmother about Larry Fitzgerald Jr’s fatherhood, that’s a minor scoop, too, right?
from CJ
to Paul Schmelzer
Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:36 PMTwo things, I should have said in my first reply:
1) My detractors around here would NEVER let ME get away with unfairly claiming a scoop.
2) I would never intentionally do such a thing.
20 Comments
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 7:00 pm
Scoop…? Heh. So funny. Bob Collins posted about it at 1:12PM, which is where I initially heard about it on Friday. He edited that post though. It used to read:
The round of layoffs that struck CBS television stations around the country hit the Twin Cities today. Details are few and so are names. But Paul Douglas’ name no longer appears on the station’s Web site. More to come. Earlier this week, stations in New York, Chicago, Boston and San Francisco announced layoffs, including local big names. In Boston, for example, long-time sports personality Bob Lobel was let go. In analyzing the situation, the Boston Globe said the layoffs mark the “end of the celebrity broadcaster in local television.”
Even though at that point he didn’t post a “confirmation” from a source, I’d consider good enough for “breaking” about as much as C.J.’s article a few hours later.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 7:18 pm
Holy Cow Hilarious. And shameful. You should’ve asked her about that time she “spotted” Robin Williams at the airport.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
Embarrassing. She takes herself so seriously, I feel physical pain reading that.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 7:53 pm
Super duper Scooper? Middle name “Scoop” eh? Well I’ve got one of those I use in my backyard to clean up doggy-doo. “Scoop” certainly didn’t get there first here…it’s all over the place; hidden but appears when the snow piles melt. Somehow I missed a few.
And by the way, isn’t “gossip columnist’ at the low end of the reporter-pyramid; almost an extinct line of news trivia that disappeared some years ago? Who’s scooping? Who’s counting? Who cares?
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
What about the poor working stiffs. I’m confused. Minnesota Monitor is claiming a scoop and yet when it put up the word that Douglas had been canned, it attributed it to me.
From the sad commentary file: I spent a lot of time that day over at a truck stop in Wisconsin, talking to people who are barely making it what it’s like to be an independent trucker. I got back to the newsroom and here the Paul Douglas rumor, so I call WCCO, get it confirmed, and put up some lame blurb about it.
So what happened, the paragraph about Douglas gets tons of page views and comments. The story about poor working stiffs going under in our midst gets nothing.
This has something to say about our obsession with the stars, but I’m too depressed to think too much about it.
Good job, by the way, getting the email from Douglas posted. Tip: Check the time stamps on CJs posts.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 10:43 pm
“The only winning move is not to play.” I agree with Bob Collins.This is the kind of exchange that really depresses me as a young pseudo-journalist. In the end, it’s a dumb argument that’s sucking up valuable time and energy that could be directed toward more meaningful pursuits. I wish you would remove this story and replace it with something of value to the community. The coverage of Douglas leaving is relevant (to an extent). This, however, is not.
Comment posted April 10, 2008 @ 1:11 am
Way to get pwned on that Larry Fitz Jr. Fatherhood scoop, Paul. Srsly though, Aaron, other than the smell, that Robin Williams imposter was game over. I’m lucky I write for a monthly.
Comment posted April 10, 2008 @ 7:23 am
D’oh! I wasn’t claiming a scoop, but I guess I shouldn’t have even wondered about one: I did hear about Douglas’ firing from Bob’s blog (via S4xton’s Twitterfeed), but in my haste to post must’ve missed the website mention altogether. Scoop goes to Collins!
(And thanks for the great point about news that matters more.)
Comment posted April 10, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
Senseless rambling follows Nah, I don’t claim any scoop. I was just trying to get it off my desk. I still think the trucker’s story is more indicative of a day in the life of the working person (g).
One interesting thing in all of these markets (with the possible exception of WCCO, although there are buyouts coming), is every one of the CBS locales hacked at least one big name and a LOT of people nobody ever heard of before, who — perhaps — have more to do with the content that the “readers” with the big names. But nobody writes about them because they don’t have the big names, and the people writing about the declining quality (myself included) don’t mention that because we think the reader/listener/viewer won’t care because we think they can only relate to the big names. (There’s irony there somewhere, I’m just not sure where.)
Yet, I’m willing to bet that a producer or an editor who never gets on the air has more to do with the quality of the content than a lot of those who do get on the air, and the tenor of the post-layoff analysis has been that the layoffs are a sign of declining quality based mostly on the loss of the “big” name.
In the end, it’s all showbiz.
Comment posted April 11, 2008 @ 8:39 am
Missing the point I do think that who scooped who is really missing the point . But, since we’re counting, here’s my scoop on Paul’s departure:
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 2:00 pm
Scoop…? Heh. So funny. Bob Collins posted about it at 1:12PM, which is where I initially heard about it on Friday. He edited that post though. It used to read:
The round of layoffs that struck CBS television stations around the country hit the Twin Cities today. Details are few and so are names. But Paul Douglas' name no longer appears on the station's Web site. More to come. Earlier this week, stations in New York, Chicago, Boston and San Francisco announced layoffs, including local big names. In Boston, for example, long-time sports personality Bob Lobel was let go. In analyzing the situation, the Boston Globe said the layoffs mark the “end of the celebrity broadcaster in local television.”
Even though at that point he didn't post a “confirmation” from a source, I'd consider good enough for “breaking” about as much as C.J.'s article a few hours later.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
Holy Cow Hilarious. And shameful. You should've asked her about that time she “spotted” Robin Williams at the airport.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
Embarrassing. She takes herself so seriously, I feel physical pain reading that.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 2:53 pm
Super duper Scooper? Middle name “Scoop” eh? Well I've got one of those I use in my backyard to clean up doggy-doo. “Scoop” certainly didn't get there first here…it's all over the place; hidden but appears when the snow piles melt. Somehow I missed a few.
And by the way, isn't “gossip columnist' at the low end of the reporter-pyramid; almost an extinct line of news trivia that disappeared some years ago? Who's scooping? Who's counting? Who cares?
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
What about the poor working stiffs. I'm confused. Minnesota Monitor is claiming a scoop and yet when it put up the word that Douglas had been canned, it attributed it to me.
From the sad commentary file: I spent a lot of time that day over at a truck stop in Wisconsin, talking to people who are barely making it what it's like to be an independent trucker. I got back to the newsroom and here the Paul Douglas rumor, so I call WCCO, get it confirmed, and put up some lame blurb about it.
So what happened, the paragraph about Douglas gets tons of page views and comments. The story about poor working stiffs going under in our midst gets nothing.
This has something to say about our obsession with the stars, but I'm too depressed to think too much about it.
Good job, by the way, getting the email from Douglas posted. Tip: Check the time stamps on CJs posts.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
“The only winning move is not to play.” I agree with Bob Collins.This is the kind of exchange that really depresses me as a young pseudo-journalist. In the end, it's a dumb argument that's sucking up valuable time and energy that could be directed toward more meaningful pursuits. I wish you would remove this story and replace it with something of value to the community. The coverage of Douglas leaving is relevant (to an extent). This, however, is not.
Comment posted April 9, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
Way to get pwned on that Larry Fitz Jr. Fatherhood scoop, Paul. Srsly though, Aaron, other than the smell, that Robin Williams imposter was game over. I'm lucky I write for a monthly.
Comment posted April 10, 2008 @ 2:23 am
D'oh! I wasn't claiming a scoop, but I guess I shouldn't have even wondered about one: I did hear about Douglas' firing from Bob's blog (via S4xton's Twitterfeed), but in my haste to post must've missed the website mention altogether. Scoop goes to Collins!
(And thanks for the great point about news that matters more.)
Comment posted April 10, 2008 @ 7:41 am
Senseless rambling follows Nah, I don't claim any scoop. I was just trying to get it off my desk. I still think the trucker's story is more indicative of a day in the life of the working person (g).
One interesting thing in all of these markets (with the possible exception of WCCO, although there are buyouts coming), is every one of the CBS locales hacked at least one big name and a LOT of people nobody ever heard of before, who — perhaps — have more to do with the content that the “readers” with the big names. But nobody writes about them because they don't have the big names, and the people writing about the declining quality (myself included) don't mention that because we think the reader/listener/viewer won't care because we think they can only relate to the big names. (There's irony there somewhere, I'm just not sure where.)
Yet, I'm willing to bet that a producer or an editor who never gets on the air has more to do with the quality of the content than a lot of those who do get on the air, and the tenor of the post-layoff analysis has been that the layoffs are a sign of declining quality based mostly on the loss of the “big” name.
In the end, it's all showbiz.
Comment posted April 11, 2008 @ 3:39 am
Missing the point I do think that who scooped who is really missing the point . But, since we're counting, here's my scoop on Paul's departure:
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