laurie, I do apologize for veering off on a tangent not pertaining directly to this story. My original point was that Roeder is a maniac and that is why he killed Tiller–to make any other reason for why someone murders someone else gives too much credit to a murderer.

Oh thank you Dr.Phil for your diagnosis on a dead man you did not know personally.

As for the rest of your comment, it is people like Randall Terry and his ilk who wants to keep women down by not allowing them have access to contraceptives or for schools to teach comprehensive sex education.

And for a man to make a comment about keeping women down, you’re just a regular Gloria Steinem aren’t ya?

Roeder committed murder because he is psychologically disturbed. If it was due to the quote above, all doctors would have threats against them. Any doctor can perform medically necessary late-term abortions. It just so happens that late-term abortions are rarely medically necessary–hence, not a profitable business model for specialization.

Tiller was running an abortion mill subjecting his “patients” to deplorable conditions and care. The “nurses” in his clinic are not licensed (even though they dispense medicine, give injections, iv’s, administer anesthesia, etc.) I would think that people in support of women’s health would demand real medicine–not exactly the “care” that Tiller offered. He pushed for women’s reproductive rights and bought politicians so he could stay in his gated community, keep his clinic expenses low and continue to perform substandard service for obscene profits while largely taking advantage of young people and minorities. Do a search for LeRoy Carhart–the guy who wants to take over Tiller’s Wichita clinic–and see pictures of his deplorable facility.

Really, people, this goes beyond whether one is pro-life or pro-choice. These abortionists saw an easy path to a lot of money with little oversight. They hold themselves to medical standards barely better than back-alley standards, yet they hold themselves up as esteemed doctors. People like Tiller do not treat women for any women’s health issues other than aborting pregnancies. See them for who they are, not what you would like to hold them up as. One of Tiller’s slogans he had put on buttons was “Trust Women.” What, to keep your wallet fat and medical regulators off your back? to keep the status quo? To women’s rights activists who support abortionists (I’m not referring here to good doctors who actually practice medicine) and keep them unaccountable to the medical community–you’ve been played. Way to keep the money flowing into their pockets. And way to keep women down!

Judge ye not lest ye be judged. Oh, and it is the pro-life movment it is hypocritical since a lot of them are pro-war/death penalty/torture.