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	<title>Comments on: What isn&#8217;t Bachmann telling us about Obama&#8217;s birth certificate?</title>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/39995/bachmann-birther-birth-certificate-obama/comment-page-2#comment-125563</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Factcheck.org is lying through their teeth when they claim that they saw an actual 3-dimensional copy of Obama&#039;s birth certificate IN CHICAGO. The original in question...the one that Hawaii&#039;s dept of health claims is legit but will not release to the public is held in Hawaii (NOT CHICAGO.)

The directof of Hawaii&#039;s DOH didn&#039;t confirm that &quot;Obama was born in Honolulu,&quot; but in their carefully worded statement, they say that they have [some kind of birth information] for Obama, but they do not say it&#039;s a &quot;Hawaii birth certificate.&quot; Their language most certainly is chosen to protect themselves legally down the road.

Noted document forensic expert, Sandra Ramsey Lines claims in a sworn affidavit that the &#039;cert of live birth&#039; Obama &amp; Friends have presented is actually the bogus doc. You can view a copy of her statement here:  

http://www.scribd.com/doc/10266528/Keyes-v-Lingle-Decl-of-Sandra-Lines 

And no, just because a (clearly left-leaning) government official makes vague statements that are then spun by Obama &amp; followers doesn&#039;t mean that there&#039;s absolute proof that Obama is a natural born citizen. Check out this recent case where a paid official with access to Soc. Security info set up fake socials for illegal immigrants:

 http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107200

And yes, Michele Bachman is a sell-out like all the politicians in D.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factcheck.org is lying through their teeth when they claim that they saw an actual 3-dimensional copy of Obama&#8217;s birth certificate IN CHICAGO. The original in question&#8230;the one that Hawaii&#8217;s dept of health claims is legit but will not release to the public is held in Hawaii (NOT CHICAGO.)</p>
<p>The directof of Hawaii&#8217;s DOH didn&#8217;t confirm that &#8220;Obama was born in Honolulu,&#8221; but in their carefully worded statement, they say that they have [some kind of birth information] for Obama, but they do not say it&#8217;s a &#8220;Hawaii birth certificate.&#8221; Their language most certainly is chosen to protect themselves legally down the road.</p>
<p>Noted document forensic expert, Sandra Ramsey Lines claims in a sworn affidavit that the &#8216;cert of live birth&#8217; Obama &amp; Friends have presented is actually the bogus doc. You can view a copy of her statement here:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/10266528/Keyes-v-Lingle-Decl-of-Sandra-Lines" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/10266528/Keyes-v-Lingle-Decl-of-Sandra-Lines</a> </p>
<p>And no, just because a (clearly left-leaning) government official makes vague statements that are then spun by Obama &amp; followers doesn&#8217;t mean that there&#8217;s absolute proof that Obama is a natural born citizen. Check out this recent case where a paid official with access to Soc. Security info set up fake socials for illegal immigrants:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107200" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107200</a></p>
<p>And yes, Michele Bachman is a sell-out like all the politicians in D.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Zher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Zher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK birthers, do you yourself possess a birth certificate that would pass the intense scrutiny that Obama&#039;s certificate has been subjected to?  I imagine that, had his mother had any idea that he might be President someday maybe she would have insured the document was carefully secured so there&#039;d be no doubt.

I got my birth certificate from my mom after I graduated from college and was on my own.  She even bought me a fireproof box for it and my other important papers.  But I don&#039;t have the original certificates for any of my three kids, just certified copies.  We moved too many times, stuff got lost.

Why don&#039;t you work on discrediting the newspaper announcement of his birth?  I haven&#039;t heard any plausible arguments as to how the newspaper announcement is fake.  Pretty hard to fake it when libraries around the country might have a copy on file or a microfiche.  Disprove that evidence, if you can!

If not, then please shut up!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK birthers, do you yourself possess a birth certificate that would pass the intense scrutiny that Obama&#8217;s certificate has been subjected to?  I imagine that, had his mother had any idea that he might be President someday maybe she would have insured the document was carefully secured so there&#8217;d be no doubt.</p>
<p>I got my birth certificate from my mom after I graduated from college and was on my own.  She even bought me a fireproof box for it and my other important papers.  But I don&#8217;t have the original certificates for any of my three kids, just certified copies.  We moved too many times, stuff got lost.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you work on discrediting the newspaper announcement of his birth?  I haven&#8217;t heard any plausible arguments as to how the newspaper announcement is fake.  Pretty hard to fake it when libraries around the country might have a copy on file or a microfiche.  Disprove that evidence, if you can!</p>
<p>If not, then please shut up!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cindkra</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindkra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People seem to get hung up on Obama&#039;s birth certificate being called a &quot;Certificate of Live Birth.&quot;  It means, just as it says, that the infant was born alive.  There are also registrations/certificates made for stillbirth babies.  I can&#039;t believe the ongoing idiocy and ignorance of the birthers but, then again, the semantics of the words on the birth certificate isn&#039;t really their issue.  They just don&#039;t want Obama as President and will grasp any straw to try to end it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People seem to get hung up on Obama&#8217;s birth certificate being called a &#8220;Certificate of Live Birth.&#8221;  It means, just as it says, that the infant was born alive.  There are also registrations/certificates made for stillbirth babies.  I can&#8217;t believe the ongoing idiocy and ignorance of the birthers but, then again, the semantics of the words on the birth certificate isn&#8217;t really their issue.  They just don&#8217;t want Obama as President and will grasp any straw to try to end it.</p>
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		<title>By: Not a nutcase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not a nutcase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The posts of the birthers contained herein are the best example of lunacy I&#039;ve recently seen.  

BTW, I&#039;ve never seen or even heard the GWB released his birth certificate (long-form, short-form or otherwise).  By using your logic, he must have been hiding something and obviously wasn&#039;t eligible to be President.

Also, regardless of where Obama&#039;s dad was born, his mother was a citizen.  As such, by all applicable rules Obama is eligible to be President even if he were born outside of the U.S.&#039;s borders.  

If you all would simply put 1/2 of the energy into doing God&#039;s work (you know, helping the least among us, feeding the hungry and clothing the naked...not to mention loving your neighbor) as you do with your irrational ramblings, the country would be a much better place.  He won, get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The posts of the birthers contained herein are the best example of lunacy I&#8217;ve recently seen.  </p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;ve never seen or even heard the GWB released his birth certificate (long-form, short-form or otherwise).  By using your logic, he must have been hiding something and obviously wasn&#8217;t eligible to be President.</p>
<p>Also, regardless of where Obama&#8217;s dad was born, his mother was a citizen.  As such, by all applicable rules Obama is eligible to be President even if he were born outside of the U.S.&#8217;s borders.  </p>
<p>If you all would simply put 1/2 of the energy into doing God&#8217;s work (you know, helping the least among us, feeding the hungry and clothing the naked&#8230;not to mention loving your neighbor) as you do with your irrational ramblings, the country would be a much better place.  He won, get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Cugat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier Cugat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the single-payer public option?

Where are the jobs?

Where&#039;s the Birth Certificate?

What the HECK is going on around here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the single-payer public option?</p>
<p>Where are the jobs?</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the Birth Certificate?</p>
<p>What the HECK is going on around here?</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Obama’s own Myspace page says he is 52 years of age.  That would mean he was born in 1957, not 1961 as the fake Factcheck COLB says.

The questions won’t go away until obama releases his hidden records.  All he has to do is make the following official public statement, 

&quot;I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file.&quot; 

That&#039;s it. Issue over. But he won&#039;t because he&#039;s a fraud!!   Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What and why is he hiding? 

And maybe more disturbing is why don&#039;t BHO&#039;s supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there&#039;s a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a &quot;natural born&quot; citizen of the United States?  The answer is that Obama’s very own supporters also know he’s a fraud!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US YOUR LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER RECORDS!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Obama’s own Myspace page says he is 52 years of age.  That would mean he was born in 1957, not 1961 as the fake Factcheck COLB says.</p>
<p>The questions won’t go away until obama releases his hidden records.  All he has to do is make the following official public statement, </p>
<p>&#8220;I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. Issue over. But he won&#8217;t because he&#8217;s a fraud!!   Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What and why is he hiding? </p>
<p>And maybe more disturbing is why don&#8217;t BHO&#8217;s supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there&#8217;s a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a &#8220;natural born&#8221; citizen of the United States?  The answer is that Obama’s very own supporters also know he’s a fraud!</p>
<p>OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US YOUR LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER RECORDS!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Certification of Live Birth issued by the Hawaii Department of Health is legally valid for any purpose. It is the document you receive when you apply for a birth certificate -- the DoH no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth, only Certifications.

Any doubts you might have over the Certification would not be put to rest by the original Certificate, since the information on the former is derived from the latter by the DoH. If you don&#039;t trust the DoH now, why would you trust them to issue a copy of the original? Any court in the country will accept the DoH-issued Certification of Live Birth, so you are wasting your time.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/01/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Certification of Live Birth issued by the Hawaii Department of Health is legally valid for any purpose. It is the document you receive when you apply for a birth certificate &#8212; the DoH no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth, only Certifications.</p>
<p>Any doubts you might have over the Certification would not be put to rest by the original Certificate, since the information on the former is derived from the latter by the DoH. If you don&#8217;t trust the DoH now, why would you trust them to issue a copy of the original? Any court in the country will accept the DoH-issued Certification of Live Birth, so you are wasting your time.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/01/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/" rel="nofollow">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/01/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned in my prior comment: Birthers are weird and anti-birthers are more nuts. Most Americans are not birthers and they want to see the orginal Obama birth certificate. We are all wondering why Obama just end the maddness by releasing his true original birth cerificate.
The &quot;Live Birth Certificate&quot; is not a birth certificate, since it doesn&#039;t contain the name of a hospital or the name of the doctor. It is more like a birth announcement. 

The circus must stop and Obama can do it in a quick way..release the orginal birth certificate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned in my prior comment: Birthers are weird and anti-birthers are more nuts. Most Americans are not birthers and they want to see the orginal Obama birth certificate. We are all wondering why Obama just end the maddness by releasing his true original birth cerificate.<br />
The &#8220;Live Birth Certificate&#8221; is not a birth certificate, since it doesn&#8217;t contain the name of a hospital or the name of the doctor. It is more like a birth announcement. </p>
<p>The circus must stop and Obama can do it in a quick way..release the orginal birth certificate.</p>
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		<title>By: StewartIII</title>
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		<dc:creator>StewartIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberal Blogs Call Bachmann a Birther, Expose Their Own Ignorance
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mitchell-blatt/2009/07/30/liberal-blogs-claim-bachmann-birther</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberal Blogs Call Bachmann a Birther, Expose Their Own Ignorance<br />
<a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mitchell-blatt/2009/07/30/liberal-blogs-claim-bachmann-birther" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mitchell-blatt/2009/07/30/liberal-blogs-claim-bachmann-birther</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the fact that you lied about her support of Hawaii&#039;s 50th birthday then had to be corrected by Salon, I guess you&#039;re an idiot, Minnesota Independent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the fact that you lied about her support of Hawaii&#8217;s 50th birthday then had to be corrected by Salon, I guess you&#8217;re an idiot, Minnesota Independent.</p>
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