Al Franken spewed fire and Amy Klobuchar threw brimstone this morning at the Senate Judiciary Committee vote on Sonia Sotomayor’s nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Minnesotans joined 10 other Democrats and one Republican in approving the nominee, but not before Franken raked the current Court and Klobuchar decried bias against women on the bench (video).
Franken was the last senator to speak before the vote, but his statement was perhaps the most arresting as he threw off the mild-mannered mantle of a first-month senator and threw down a gauntlet over high-court rulings he termed “judicial activism.”
It was a theme that he struck more tentatively during committee hearings and today promised to revisit when the nomination reaches the Senate floor.
“Individual rights, individual protections and individual liberties” are under attack by the current Supreme Court, Franken asserted, pointedly citing other senators on specific high-court rulings with which he found fault.
With a vehemence not yet seen in his short tenure in Washington, D.C., Franken took issue with rulings on abortion, voting rights, price fixing, age discrimination, and corporate entanglement in elections.
Noting how court actions have overturned or threatened even recent precedent, Franken said, emphatically, “This is judicial activism. This is a court that’s willing to reverse itself … to achieve its own agenda of what is right. … A vote for Sonia Sotomayor is a vote against judicial activism.”
Minutes earlier, Klobuchar cast Sotomayor as an Everywoman Jurist whose image had been misrepresented by Republicans harping on her now-infamous “wise Latina” statement.
“She knows the law, she knows the Constitution, but she also knows America,” Klobuchar said to both open and close her comments.
Klobuchar said she had bristled at “mostly anonymous question[ing of] Judge Sotomayor’s judicial temperament” and cited her own experience in Minnesota: “Where I come from, asking tough questions and showing very little patience for unprepared lawyers is the very definition of a judge.”
Sexist standards implicit in such critiques “irritated me,” Klobuchar said, adding that the country should ”appoint as many gruff, to-the-point female judges as gruff, to-the-point male judges.”
This morning’s vote was historic for Minnesota: It’s the first time a Democratic senator from the state (let alone two) has cast a vote on a Supreme Court nominee as a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Wisconsin is the only other state with two senators on the committee, also both Democrats. Together the two neighboring states accounted for four of the 13 votes that sent Sotomayor’s nomination on to the full Senate.
Here’s the video of Franken:
And here’s Klobuchar:














265 Comments »
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:15 pm
Makes me proud!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:32 pm
Sen Franken, thank you for have the guts to stand up to them. I know it comes straight from
your heart. I’m still thrilled with your bill for having service dogs for returning Vets.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:35 pm
Klobuchar and Franken make a wonderful team. I am so proud of Franken!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:35 pm
GO Minnestoa… now get rid of BatSh!tCrazy Bachman….
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:49 pm
So Klobuchar is basically justifying racial and Sexist comments do to Sonia being liberal, hispanic and female,,,, And Franken thinks that the supreme court should ignore law and try to imitate the Florida supremes who tried to rewrite law in 2000
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:50 pm
Bachmann the insane Rep has to go.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:53 pm
It is very gratifying to see the two Minnesota senators at work. I’m sure that Minnesotans are now in good hands in the Senate.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:53 pm
Thank you Senator Franken and Klobuchars. How can you stand to look in the faces of the DeMints, Sessions, Hatch’s etc..
they are disgusting old miserable white men that need to go now!
Get rid of the south and this country will be a great place to live! SOUTH PLEASE SECEDE, WE’RE NOT STOPPING YOU!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
I am very proud of this. NOW MINNESOTA remove Bachman.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
I appreciate and agree with Senator Al Fanken pointing out the judicial activism of the conservatives, but I can’t agree with Sen. Fr\anken that “judicial activism” is even a relevant term. It is not true that judicial ctivism is bad because judicial activism is a spurious concept to begin with. In the final analysis, the term “judicial activsm” only means those cases that a person disagrees with, so Sen. Franken is as wrong to use the term as conservatives are wrong. Consevatives coined the term “judicial activism” to criticise the Warren Court’s decisions such as Miranda, Gideon, and School Board. The point is that judicial activism is good when the activism is informed by empathy for the weak and oppressed as the Warren Court was and judicial activism is bad when it is devoid of empathy as the Roberts’ Court is.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:55 pm
Al; isn’t even telling the half of it…our Supreme Court is in the clutches of the Federalist Society and their agenda is to separate the individual from any real access to the Constitution, and also to enforce Corporate “Personhood” above that of person, “Personhood!”
It’s gonna get even worse in September when they will expand the parameters of Corporate “Personhood!”
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:58 pm
With a senator like Franken I only wish that I lived in Minnesota.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:01 pm
Moments like that make me think all the work pays off.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:02 pm
Thank you Al. You are exactly the kind of politician we need on the Democratic side. Shake em up Al. I have been supporting you since day one on Air America here in the Los Angeles area.
Now, will you set a firecracker under Harry Reid and get that gang of corporate shills off their duffs and stand up to the Republicans. The country needs a single payer insurance plan. Nothing else is going to work for the population of this country. Keep up the good work Al and watch out for the mud slinging coming from the Right any minute now.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:07 pm
Hold on there! Please don’t dump all of us that happen to live in the south(west) with the nuts like Rick Perry and the goofy tea-baggers. He is the Texas governor in name only to a lot of us who still have hold of their sanity and everyone laughs at the tea baggers.
I happen to agree with Senators Franken and Klobuchars and firmly believe that this court is reversing laws hard-won years ago in many instances by blood and tears.
There are many, many of us that cannot fathom where or how these racist, right-wing nuts came to power and worse that the media insists on covering, giving them a pulpit from which to spew their frightening rhetoric.
I’m with you Minnesotans, don’t count me out!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
@jack fish: 1. What racial and sexist comments? Sotomayor stated that a wise Latina *could* make better decisions than a white male. That does not mean that a wise Latina would always, or even ever make better decisions than a white male, only that she could. Nothing she said in that comment could possibly be taken to mean that *all* latinas are better than *all* white males, only that a latina may have some experiences that would allow her to see things that a white male might miss. To that, I can only say: colour me shocked!!!
2. Franken was specifically targeting the Roberts court for IGNORING THE LAW, and legislating from the bench, which they’ve done in a number of cases, not the least of which was when they overturned the firefighters’ case. Kind of the opposite of what you said, in fact…
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:14 pm
Sotomayor will be a very activist judge, placing her social and racial opinion above the law, as do many of the other Supreme court justices. So, she will fit right in.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:14 pm
Wow! I will trade the two “Obama must fail” senators who don’t represent me for the two from Minnesota in a New York minute. (Pun intended)
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:15 pm
I’m from Arizona. I wish we had a Senator like Al Franken. But noooo! We’re stuck with that ignorant wingnut buffoon Jon Kyl, and doddering old John McCain. Our state is infested with dittoheads, bible thumpers, birthers,and redneck wingnuts, so these clowns keep getting re-elected for term after term.
Give ‘em Hell, Al!!! Don’t hesitate to call them out with the cry of, “Wait, wait, don’t lie to me!”
I would have loved to hear his speech to the committee.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:17 pm
I should have given more money to Franken..he has earned a lot more respect today. Dianne Feinstein, take note! You need some lessons from Al. I will be giving Al the money I used to give to you.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:19 pm
I believe Sotomayor will shine a light on the radical opinions of Scalia and Roberts and act as a brake on their drive to legislate from the bench.
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Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Makes me very proud to be a Minnesotan!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
It’s about time a Democrat had the guts to say it like it is. Too bad Pelosi and Reid don’t have what it takes.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Paul Wellstone’s spirit is obviously alive and well and representing Minnesota again. It’s a joy to behold.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Rep Bachman thinks with her uterus.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Many here in the State of Texas can only dream of having Senators with such wise temperament in our own lifetimes.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Sure miss the days of Milquetoast Norm…not!! Go Franken!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:23 pm
Good for you Al!!!! Even after only a month in the Senate, you have already shown that you have the cojones to tackle the big boys, and I’m so proud of you. Keep it up!!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:24 pm
It’s nice to hear from the sane legislators from Minnesota. Well done Mr. Franken and Ms. Klobuchar
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:24 pm
We now have two Senators we can really feel proud of. People who actually care about others.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:25 pm
I am a Floridian who LOVE Minnesotans…..You all are so cool for electing such awesome down to earth, practical people who have the audacity to stand up against tyranny for the people.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:26 pm
I’m hazarding he guess that Al Franken is going to be the great surprise of the decade and will become a prominent senator worth of great respect. We need people in Congress like him who don’t take themselves seriously but take the plight of Americans very seriously.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:28 pm
Wow, Jack Fish, you’ve given an astonishing example of someone reading something and coming away with the complete opposite from what it said because you’re unwilling to let go of your bias,
What Franken complained about was judges overturning established precedent and law in order to legislate their own personal viewpoint. Judicial activism. And you’ve turned his complaint about activism on its head merely because you don’t like those facts. It’s activism to you when you don;t like the result… it’s “following the rule of law” to you when you like the result.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:30 pm
You go Al! While Sotomayor will not change the political makeup of the court, I think AL got it right when he says the court as it is today is an activist court which ignores the law and is not afraid of rewriting the law. Case in point, the Rici case was not overturned on merit but because the justices changed the rules of the game–thus not relying on precedent nor established constitutional or congressional law. Now, that the definition of activist. One more Justice to resign, say Scalia or maybe Thomas, then the court will get back to the business of deciding constitutionality of law…not changing it.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:31 pm
It is so refreshing to have an intelligent, informed politician from Minnesota who is actually making a difference.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
Minnesota should be proud to have elected a new Liberal Lion!!!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
See what happens when all of Minnesota is given a voice? Today made me proud to call myself a Minnesotan.
Soon the progressive agenda of a more caring and fair society for all citizens in this world will be implemented. It won’t matter if you are unfortunate and homeless, you too will have the same rights and benefits as the rich CEO’s and crooked Republi-thugs.
Bravo Al! Bravo Amy! Keep us proud and keep slamming down those who disagree with us.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:34 pm
You’re the man, Al ! You and Amy have more cojones than 100 of the doddering old rednecks in Washington. Keep up the good work, and watch your back……K street and Wall Street don’t like intelligent honest politicians.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:35 pm
DR takes umbrage with my comment…… The supremes , all 9 of them, said at the least Sonia was wrong and should have revisited,, and DR , even in your limited comprehension, what Sonia said used her race and sex to proclaim that she would be superior….Frankendouche is a clown
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:37 pm
With any luck, we can get Cornyn and Perry replaced in Texas and I will no longer have to be embarrassed each time I hear the news.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:37 pm
Mr Frankin is a breath of freash air. I have to put up with Coburn and Inhoff. I’m a proud Okie but damn right ashamed of the flat earthers who are “representing” me.
Larry the Okie
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:37 pm
I agree 100% with SteveE’s description of politics in AZ.
I’m also from Arizona and ashamed of the two clowns we call senators. I’m hopeful that Kyl cut his throat by not backing Sotomayor. Our Hispanic population is already huge and growing fast. They will remember his slurs come election time. And McCain has been so busy running for national office he has done absolutely nothing for our state. I grew up being mortified by having Goldwater as a senator, but in retrospect, he was the real straight talk express, even though I disagreed with him on practically everything.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:37 pm
If only the South would SECEDE from the Union but then who would they have to leech off?
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:46 pm
Well said by both Senators from Minnesota ! Let’s hope the full Senate concurs and wakes up! Also I hope that Justices Scalia and Thomas will join Justice Souter in retirement this year!!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
I’m stuck in Georgia with a couple of useless repubs who certainly don’t represent me. Great job, you all from MN….doubt that we’ll get rid of them or others like them in my lifetime…used to live in MI…sort of still consider Sen. Levin my senator…
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:51 pm
Way to go Al!!!!! I am from Wisconsin and am proud to have Al as a Senator of our great neighbor state. Thanks Minnesotans. Al Franken is incredibly smart and will always take his job seriously. He has a great sense of humor too but watch out Glenn Becks, et. al. Al is waaaaaay smarter than any of you folks seem to think you are.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:51 pm
Franken for President. We need someone who’s not afraid to take an unequivocal stand for progressive issues.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
With all American businesses nationalized, Sotomayor can leverage the establishment clause to rid the U.S. of religion. Then, if they get rid of all the white people, the straight people, and the ones that are not smoking weed, you are free to “do as thou wilt”. Zig Heil MF!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:56 pm
Well, this is more like it! Minnesotans everywhere are proud. Wellstone would be proud.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:58 pm
Jack, your out of your leauge here, clearly.
Flordia supremes rewriteing the law? That’s revisionist history if ever there was one. You should check the comments on the Supreme Courts rulings about that. But of course you won’t.
I still recall vividly Bush saying in the debates “I believe in states rights”. Of course he also said “I don’t believe in nation building” refering to other nations.
Bugliosi, Vincent. 2001 Betrayal of America: How the Supreme Court Undermined the Constitution and Chose Our President. New York: Thunder’s Mouth Press.
Dershowitz, Alan M. 2001. Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000. New York: Oxford Univ. Press.
Gillman, Howard. 2001. The Votes That Counted: How the Court Decided the 2000 Presidential Election. Chicago: Univ. of Chicago Press.
Posner, Richard A. 2001. Breaking the Deadlock: The 2000 Election, the Constitution, and the Courts. Princeton, N.J.: Princeton Univ. Press.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
Minnesota must be proud as hell of these two. It’s a shame that those 40 GOP nutjobs in the Senate aren’t just like them.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
THANK YOU Senators. Now, as many people say, lets work on getting rid off Bachman, she is a disgrace to the state.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
On Wisconsin!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:00 pm
Republicans are just making fools out of themselves again and will pay for it come next election! I’ve neve seen a more obstinate, uncooperative, childish group in my lifetime.They don’t even have enough sense to know when they’re beat.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:00 pm
Way to go, Mr. Franken and Ms. Klobuchar. Your State, and (most of) America, is proud of you.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:01 pm
I am from the south. Please do not think that all southerners are nuts. I have been a yellow dog democrat all my life and will be until the day I die. I am a white woman who worked for the democrats in my area and for the Presidency of Barack Obama, I am so proud of Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar. They are the real deal. Now if we can just get the congress to pass the health care reform. I bet if congress had to give up their insurance they would be screaming. I do not know why the American people can not have the same insurance as congress. Do they think they are more special than the average person.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:03 pm
so we are to take the word of an SNL clown over the single most brilliant chief justice in history? ill pass.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:04 pm
How is it that White Males seem to think they are the epitome of fairness and jurisprudence?
The supposedly sexist and racist Sotomayor has been treated in a racist and sexist fashion, with comments like “unless you suffer a complete meltdown you will be confirmed”, and “Lucy, you got some splainin’ to do”.
I also heard Pat Robertson state that she wouldn’t have been smart enough to get into Yale or Princeton. That she is an affirmative action baby. What about the centuries of affirmative action white males who got into and continue to get into college just because their families have been in power and wealthy enough over the years to continue to get “legacy” enrollments?
Please take the blinders off your eyes and acknowledge that you have received many privileges over the years. You just take them for granted so when they’re finally pointed out you can’t see them.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:04 pm
You know, the GOP sometimes sings in tones that almost have you believing they have valid points, but it takes Senators like Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar to remind us that it really is that black and white. You either are raciest and gender bias or you’re not. There really is no middle ground on that one. There is no justification for voting against Sonia Sotomayor with her outstanding record and background. When she was questioned about if she thought she might have a temperament my blood began to boil. What a shameful display of partisan politics.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:07 pm
Thank God for Franken and Klobuchar.
May their voices only get more prominent,
and more heeded, as time passes.
The “blue dogz” are just stealth republicans
and everybody knows it.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
So proud to have Al Franken working for this country – and amen to what he and Amy Klobuchar said. We need MORE women on the Supreme Court- 51% to be exact!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:09 pm
Jack fish
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 1:49 pm
So Klobuchar is basically justifying racial and Sexist comments do to Sonia being liberal, hispanic and female,,,,And Franken thinks that the supreme court should ignore law and try to imitate the Florida supremes who tried to rewrite law in 2000
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Your comment left any doubt you don’t know what you are talking about,the Supreme Court
of United States was the one who rewrite law,giving the presidency to Bush on 2000.
Besides ,the Ricchi case another judicial activism from the SC,reversing themselves.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:09 pm
What Sen Franken has proven beyond all doubt? It takes intelligence to have a sense of humor. Sen Franken exhibited the no nonsense approach I used to vote Obama into office, only to see a Chicago politician come to the fore. That was not a compliment, by the way.
We need more senators like Franken and Klobuchar, willing to do the right thing, rather than the paid approach of lobbyists with no interest in the American people.
I hope the President of the United States follows Sen Franken’s lead, soon.
I hope he’s listening.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:10 pm
Someone should have pointed out to that wise latina woman that some wise white men drew up the very constitution she is to uphold. Congrats to her nomination, Al Franken should stfu, he’s a nobody saying nothing of consequence while no one listens.
Sorry, I read this article accidentally, not realizing I was on the Air America fan club newsletter, jeez, what a bunch of kiss-butt comments.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:10 pm
Oh, and little Jeffy Sessions?
Talk about a racist hypocrite!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
Great job Senators Klobuchar and Franken. It’s great to have someone fighting injustice on so important a topic. Congratulations to Sotomayor for her rise to the Supreme Court.
Franken will be watched closely and I am glad he isn’t taking a back seat just because he is a new Senator.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:15 pm
Al Franken, you were definitely worth the wait!!!! I salute you. I wish the rest of the Dems had your guts. The Blue Dogs are corrupt conservative Republicans in disguise. They are cowards to boot.
The GOP have one agenda and one agenda only …… to stop President Obama by any lying means necessary. The President needs more support like the senators from Minnesota. It is time for the South to get out of politics.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:17 pm
Seriously, you guys elected a COMEDIAN!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:17 pm
The single most brilliant chief justice in the supreme court was Earl Warren. He would have welcomed Sotomayor with open arms, because she is an unbiased judge who follows the law.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:18 pm
I’m jealous. I have two sell-out Dems in the Senate.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
max
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:03 pm
so we are to take the word of an SNL clown over the single most brilliant chief justice in history? ill pass.
1st) Learn how to spell.
2nd) When did you move up North? The South awaits your return with open arms.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:21 pm
That is the Al Franken I thought we were getting in the Senate and I’m so happy that he started saying what’s on his mind. I used to listen to him on Air America and he used to fire me up; he did not take anything from any of those right-wingers who think they know it all. He is right about what the Supreme Court has been up to for a number of years now, notably from the time that the gargantuan mistake of all times was made — when the court “voted” Bush into the White House after the public voted his opponent, Al Gore as president. And kudos to his sidekick in the Minnesota delegation for making it clear where she stands on some the issue of partisan politics and racism. Maybe together they can light a fire under the belly of some comatose Democrats in both chambers who have been letting the Republicans walk all over them.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
You idiots probably still think Obama is doing a good job too, don’t you? Al Franken is a joke and the rest of the country is laughing at Minnisota! LAUGHING!!!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:24 pm
I live in Arizona. I have a modest income, but I made monthly contributions to Al Franken’s senatorial campaign for many months. I was going to discontinue my contributions when his election was announced, but I’ve decided that, living in Arizona, I have no Senators (Kyl and McCain have never met a pro-women’s issue they didn’t despise), so I’m going to continue my contributions to Senator Franken and ask him to be my Senator.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:24 pm
I live in Texas, I wish there were two like the Minnesota senators representing us suffering Texans. We got toadies here eating that corporate swill and representin’ our in’rests.Put an R by you name and they’d elect Satan in this state.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:25 pm
Franken , what a loathsome scumball. It’s almost perverted the way he wags his finger protesting “judicial activism” while in the same foul breath the supporting the “wise Latina”. How did it come to this? I guess this is what Bill Maher meant by America is stupid.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:25 pm
I’m from Wisconsin…proud of our two senators, Feingold and Kohl and also proud of our neighbors’ senators from Minnesota. Nice to see some people with backbone representing the Midwest!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:26 pm
Hold Fast
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
You idiots probably still think Obama is doing a good job too, don’t you? Al Franken is a joke and the rest of the country is laughing at Minnisota! LAUGHING!!!!
Awww… we, the idiots, are hurt. As your friend Cheney says, go f&^k yourself.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:31 pm
Go get’m buddy, show them what a real progressive is made of. Wish I could vote for you.
Cheers
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:34 pm
Hold Fast, I think you hit a nerve there. Sounds like someone is projecting a little self-inflicted anger on you! It’s Ok Dieter, buyer’s remorse is becoming a common problem within the democrat party these days. Go see a counselor, I’m sure we’ll all be paying for it shortly.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:35 pm
Hold Fast, you don’t live in the United States do you? If you do, you really need to pull your head out of your back side and take a good look at what has transpired the past eight years, and how hard it is going to be to effect repairs, not to mention the cost. Good luck on your path to enlightenment.
take care
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
Frankis just showed he is the loose cannon everyone thought he was. The people of Minn. will come to realize, in very short order, that they elected a kook to the Senate.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
I’m curious. Who does Max think is the single most brilliant chief justice in history”?
And Drilling – we also elected a wrestler. Both married men who live family values rather than just preaching them.
And Andre Dismuke – that really wasn’t the point of Sotomayer’s comments, was it? or didn’t you read her speech?
And hankelvis – Cheney was poised to invade an american city with the US Army and you’re worrying about non- white gay people who smoke pot. Seriously, dude – you need to rethink a few things.
And Jack Fish – I think you are my favorite – 9 justices? the decision in the Ricci case was 5-4 and does anyone really think that this wasn’t a slam at Obama?
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
Go Senator Franken! Give ‘em hell, sir.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:38 pm
I’m sorry, would that be the repairs to the trillions of dollars we’ve overspent in the last 6 months that by far, make the previous eight years pale in comparison genius? Hope your grandkids are rich!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:38 pm
It’s amazing how people like “holdfast” and “RG” won’t use their names when penning an opinion. RG, Bill Maher is frequently speaking about people like you. Sorry to break the news.
take care
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
Makes this Californian jealous. If only there were sixty real Democrats in the Senate.
The right wing court members have been supremely activist and contradict themselves all the time in order to push their extreme pro business positions. For example the Bush V. Gore reasoning was so tortured that the right wing majority said it should not be used as a precedent….
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
I too wish we in Texas had senators like Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar. Instead, we are stuck with “Big” John Cornyn, oil pimp and bullshitter extraordinaire, and Kay Bailey Hutchison, whose record is noted for its lack of substance. Texas is also stuck with Perry, secessionist wannabe and all-around idiot. Take it from another wise latina, you Minnesotans are really lucky.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Tom,
I don’t give a S@#t who you are, why do you care who I am??? Move out of Minn and join the real world.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
RG
Your attitude is what Bill Maher meant by America is stupid. It is this ultraconservative ultra right-wing attitude that has our country in turmoil now.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
Yes,
Amy and Al do us in Minnesota Proud – now if we can figure out a way to get rid of Michele
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
so many idiots and so little time.
Hold fast there is only one “i” in Minnesota. I think this may be where you get confused.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
thomas, nobody cares how you spell it!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:45 pm
Hold Fast, who initiated the melt down and started the payments without any oversight or tracking? That happened prior to the election. Programs initiated do sometimes need to be fulfilled. I would have preferred to see the past President and his cohorts prosecuted, as well as his Wall Street buddies, but that is not to be. I don’t know for sure that the bail out wasn’t the only option, but it’s the one we’re using. You need to acquaint yourself with those little things called “FACTS” (something Senator Franken has said in the past when writing about bill o’really, rush limpbaugh, etc) before you write things down for others to read.
take care
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:45 pm
Hold Fast
“Al Franken is a joke and the rest of the country is laughing at Minnisota!”
The ‘rest of the country’ is not laughing at Al Franken, rest assured.
Newsflash: The Confederate States of America is not the ‘rest of the country’.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:46 pm
Hold Fast – see what happens when you dumb down american public schools – spelling and grammar are no longer important.
I suspect your lips move when you try to read anything more difficult than a Denny’s or IHOP menu.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:48 pm
This is great news. Maybe now we can start taking the court back from the activist neocons & maybe even return to the rule of law!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:50 pm
Go Al, Go. Great! Finally, someone telling us some truth instead of mouthing the platitudes about how great our Supreme Court is.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
Yes Al and Amy thanks a million
Yes the Supreme court is full of Old Farts living in the pre-mediavel age or rather Old South with chips over their shoulder thinking that the world is one kind of static or rather America is static. Shoot lets talk about people like Sessions, Cornyns, Crazy Bachman (I wonder what a woman who is constantly on blend of steroids and barbiturates is doing in the house) and thank God Coleman is out. All these nymphos talk from their butts and for that Cornyn it won’t be long, it won’t Dawg, Texas used to be Democrats and very soon it will return Democrats. And as for those of you thinking Texas buys the idea of those unglorified tea baggers its quite unfortunate that you are even considering the rantings of a soon to be defeated Governor who has one of the worst records in the history of Texas. Al is my man and Amy thanks for your hard work.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:54 pm
…This Oklahoma liberal is proud of both of them for standing up to the NEONuts. Unfortunately, I have the worse 2 senators that ever existed. Coburn and Mr. respect for nobody…Jerk..I mean Inhoff.
Finally, a democrat that takes the pie and slams it right back in their faces! That is what we need. Strong and courageous liberals who will pop these dolts upside the head with facts…FACTS!
Converavitves decry the New Haven decision but, fail to recognize their own discriminatory dicisions…ie. Lilly Ledbetter..(Now, go read about it, Neonuts!)
Here’s a tast:
Lilly Ledbetter was a supervisor at Goodyear Tire and Rubber’s plant in Gadsden, Alabama, from 1979 until her retirement in 1998. For most of those years, she worked as an area manager, a position largely occupied by men. Initially, Ledbetter’s salary was in line with the salaries of men performing substantially similar work. Over time, however, her pay slipped in comparison to the pay of male area managers with equal or less seniority. By the end of 1997, Ledbetter was the only woman working as an area manager and the pay discrepancy between Ledbetter and her 15 male counterparts was stark: Ledbetter was paid $3,727 per month; the lowest paid male area manager received $4,286 per month, the highest paid, $5,236 <—Roberts and conservatives think this isn’t discrimination….go figure.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:55 pm
Tom Blackmon,
do not waist your time trying to educate dumbass… Let him continue with his rant, the more he does it, the more people realize how stupid his argument is.
Why spend time and effort on something that is going nowhere but to ears that listen for a 50 or lower IQ?
D
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:57 pm
Man, this is the first time I have had a reason to move to Minnesota! Hooray for taking a stand!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:02 pm
It’s nice to see Democrats acting like,well,…………… DEMOCRATS! This Roberts court should be taken to task EVERY DAY! If the morons who vote Republican actually KNEW how their rights are being taken away,maybe they’d pay attention.Stupidity and apathy are THIS Supreme Court’s best friends!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:09 pm
Hold Fast
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
thomas, nobody cares how you spell it!
Hold Fast? You are wrong. I care. I also care that capital letters are used when appropriate. I wish you would practice doing so. Then, perhaps, I would take you seriously. Until then, I’m afraid that I’m going to have to consider you ill educated. And ill educated opinions are cheap.
Thanks, but no thanks.
(And I eagerly await your scathing rebuke.)
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:27 pm
I’m so glad Al beat hollow man Coleman.
Get the worthless stooges like Coleman, Pawlenty, Kline, and Bachmann OUT of our state, and out of our government. I can’t wait for Normie boy to go down in flames, which he has richly deserved for a long, long time. What a pathetic waste of skin.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
Three cheers for Minnesota! You absolutely knew what you were doing when casting your votes. Senators Franken and Klobuchar are alive and not dead like the other dead-beats in the senate. They have love and respect for truth and I admire them for it.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:38 pm
Way to go Al & Amy!! I love Minnesotans . . .
To all those here who have admitted their embarrassment at having federal and state representatives in various capacities who have proven themselves to be ignorant, cracker, bigots and richly upholstered crooks, a suggestion: Stop re-electing them!
The dinosaurs and fat-old-white-men (women) must die, but in a democracy voters are under no obligation to maintain them in office until they do. Living in a democracy means you have the right to choose — so DO IT!
If your representatives are not serving the interests of those who ALLOWED THEM THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING THE PEOPLE (that’s YOU), then make a big, loud, messy, public noise and find an excuse to RECALL them or, if that can’t be done, for Pete’s sake quit re-electing the toads. Pretty simple, right?
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:39 pm
It’s like coming out of eight years under ground and finally getting to see a sunny day.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:42 pm
Hip Hip Hooray for Franken! god bless godspeed let ‘m have it!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:43 pm
I think I’ll move to Minnesota from the once liberal state of Washington.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
Wow, did you hear that sexist and anit feminist questioning from Graham and Sessions. I thought I was back in 1962.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:49 pm
Guess what — the GOP are dinosaurs (Goposaurs). They have just lost a HUGE number of voters from the Hispanic community. What an ignorant and sexist group of men. Young voters know what’s going on pretty much. They’re tired of these old guys from the south and the rest of the GOP with their backward racist views of America. The world is changing and these men are shilling for a group of voters who are clinging to a part of the past that has no place in the future of America. Thanks Al and Amy for speaking out for Sotomayor and for our youth who are looking towards the future.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:53 pm
WOW, can we swap Al for Diane (we do not have the votes) Fienstien (CA)
I feel proud for the State of 10,000 lakes
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:54 pm
I admit folks like Hold Fast are easy, almost irresistible targets, and if people want to to engage in back-and-forths with them, so be it. But they should also know that it will never turn into a debate b/c one cannot debate with someone who refuses to look at facts and whose idea of an argument is to throw out insults. To me, the more fruitful thing to do is not to answer b/c then they have no reason to continue spouting nonsense–i.e. treat them like trolls who should not be fed.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 4:58 pm
Minnesota should be doubly proud today. Thank you Amy, thank you Al. It’s going to be interesting to witness your growth and influence.
Thank you for speaking truth to the Old White Men’s Court.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:05 pm
This reminds me of something my European friends continue to point out. There was once a society that was far more advanced financially and culturally than ours. It rallied its citizens to abhore the liberal bleeding hearts and support the cause of “freedom and liberty for its people”. Their Fuhrer wound up killing over 6 million of those who disagreed and came very close to ruling the world. This is serious. The same evil is among us today.
Thanks Senator Franken for speaking out.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:08 pm
I’m so glad it was Franken who was elected even though RepublicanTs tried to steal this election…go Al, get them where it hurts, at the heart of the truth!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:13 pm
Franken truly is a clown. Minnesotans should be so happy they are represented by a clown. A clown from the far left.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:15 pm
The rest of the country IS laughing at Minnesota – because of Michelle Bachmann.
Some of us had forgotten what crybaby sore losers Republicans are.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:18 pm
Andrea D. wants the south to secede to make the country better off?
There is that open minded tolerance that liberals like to think they own. Good job Andrea…..throw out a blanket indictment over millions of your own fellow citizens. I guess it is pretty easy to do when you cast it down from your ivory tower.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:20 pm
Al and Amy represent MN well. A quick scan of the comments shows about 90% agreement with them. Great to see these newer, younger leaders emerging and speaking truth to power. OK you folks for other states, get emails out to your rep and sens on healthcare. The medil/pharma/insuro industrial complex is huffing and puffing and trying to blow the house and senate down.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
THANK YOU AL FRANKEN!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
Karl e. Wahl: It’d appear from your IP address that you’ve used 16 names to comment at this site (one with a Ph.D. at the end). As our comment policy prohibits that, you’ll have to stick to one if you want further comments to appear. Thanks.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:28 pm
How refreshing to have a Congressperson speak up, and speak truth. It’s about time. Thanks, Al.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:31 pm
I live in Michigan. Go Al !!!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:33 pm
Sotomayor is a bigot and racist believing that white men are poorer judges than she. That Franken and Klobuchar ignore Sotomayor’s history of bias, bad rulings and statements that would have gotten any other nominee rejected if the situation was reversed, is just blatant politics and little more.
Sotomayor will be the activist Leftists have been searching for to make rulings based on her personal anti-white stance she is known for.
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.” – Sonja Sotomayor
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:40 pm
Thank you, Minnesota voters, for sending these two fine people to the Senate.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:41 pm
Dave In Colorado:
“The rest of the country IS laughing at Minnesota – because of Michelle Bachmann.
Some of us had forgotten what crybaby sore losers Republicans are.”
How could you have forgotten Dave, they’ve been reminding us every day for 20 years?
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:42 pm
Okay….8 years of Bush…I hear if from every democrat. I also hear that Obama is not responsible for his first 6 months……so by your own reasoning…..Bush was not responsible for his first 6 months? The truth is the economy turned down under Bush…..but the economy was not horrible for 8 years….furthermore, Bush was not hated for 8 years….after 9/11 even Jon Stewert was nice to him, for a little while. On the other hand, Obama did inherit a lot of problems and it is going to take a long time to clean it up. So he does need some support. I think he is going about in the wrong way on numerous counts…and I did not like some of things Bush did either, but there is some middle ground.
I guess what I am saying is when you throw out extreme statements no matter what side you are coming from you look like an emotional basket case looney who is blind to facts and logic.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:42 pm
A truth teller? Finally! Go Franken.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:44 pm
Morons! both of them. Franken is a comic writer for goodness sake. Anyone can sit up there and spew liberal rhetoric that cant be proven. Peace Im outta here.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:48 pm
Yes Jay, when you spend an entire post downplaying how Bush and the Republicans drove us and much of the world into the ditch you definitely sound like a basket case looney blind to the facts.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:49 pm
I am so happy and proud to have Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar as my senators.
And, like soooooo many others, I hope Michelle Bachman, tinfoil hat and all, goes far away as soon as possible.
Go Al!!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:04 pm
Jay
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:18 pm
Andrea D. wants the south to secede to make the country better off?
There is that open minded tolerance that liberals like to think they own. Good job Andrea…..throw out a blanket indictment over millions of your own fellow citizens. I guess it is pretty easy to do when you cast it down from your ivory tower.
—
Jay, it’s not ivory tower reasoning that leads people to despise and generalize the south, it’s facts garnered from nearly any poll/research/census that makes most of us wish that Jesustan would just hurry up and secede into oblivion.
There’s a lovely website…I can’t post it here due to profanity in the title, that outlines exactly why we should have just let the South secede. Those Southerners willing to use the brain God gave them (Or the brain they evolved…whichever you prefer) are welcome up North, everyone else can go on to the Jesustan.
Google “F*** the South” and you’ll find it. I do wish they used less profanity, but the message is still valid, despite.
Here’s a sanitized sample: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljokeredvsblue.htm
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:10 pm
RobinCal
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 5:48 pm
“Yes Jay, when you spend an entire post downplaying how Bush and the Republicans drove us and much of the world into the ditch you definitely sound like a basket case looney blind to the facts.”
1. The stock market reached it’s highest level under Bush.
2. Unemployment reached it’s lowest level under Bush.
3. The president does not control Congress where budgets are legislated.
4. Democrats twarted Bush’s efforts to investigate Fannie and Freddie.
5. Democrats controlled Congress for the last years of Bush’s presidency.
6. Clinton had a Republican Congress for the most part.
7. Obama went along with Bush’s ridiculous bail outs and stimulus.
8. Obama has made Bush’s terrible spending look tame by comparison.
9. Socialism is not an American value.
10. Socialism induces a mental affliction rendering one unable to tell the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, friend from foe, or fact from fiction.
11. I used to be a Democrat until I learned that the Socialist and Communist anti-American Parties endorsed Clinton in 1992.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:20 pm
I would vote for either one of them for President.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:25 pm
Wow, Minnesota has two very impressive senators! Thank you Al and Amy for stating the facts. Any state would be lucky to have you two representing them. Minnesotans should be proud.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:31 pm
I concur, Franken for President. We need another, “Give them hell, Harry”! Dems are playing to nice with these rightwingnuts. Conservatives have dumbed down America for the past 25 years. Only morons would trust their jobs, their money and their future to the Corporate greed that has turned this country upside down. They have convinced Americans that a 3% raise is adequate, that paying 18% percent interest on a credit card is fair, that putting in 60-70 hours a week in on a job that is exempt from overtime, 100 million dollar CEO bonuses and sending jobs blatantly overseas is fair. You have nuts thinking that the President is an illegal alien, a Manchurian candidate, who also think that Palin is Presidential timber and the mass media works 24 hours to convince us that this is sanity. They don’t want us to look behind the curtains to see that we are 37th in the world in healthcare, as well as far down the list on standard of living, education and life expectancy. We either regain control of the asylum or we’ll all be watching tractor pulls, NASCAR and WWE with the rest of the looney bin.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:34 pm
I am one of Sen. Franken’s out-of-state (D-PA) supporters who paid a “Dollar a Day to Make Norm Go Away” and boy was it worth it. He is my kind of leader. This may be small change for most people, but I gave up the daily newspaper to keep on budget, and I do not think I missed very much. We need to retire more of the old dogs in both Houses of Congress, from either party, who say one thing to get elected, then skulk about K Street sniffing for cash and do their corporate masters bidding when they vote. Follow the money and judge them by their actions alone, then vote to end the corruption. Long term incumbency is not usually a sign of honesty or goodness.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:37 pm
Tom Brewitz: Re: Point no. 10, say what?????? By the way, all our closest Allies are Socialist including the UK and they all have higher standards of living, longer life expectancy and better healthcare – check the World Health Organization’s latest report – we are 37th in Healthcare, just ahead of Slovenia. And by the way, what was the market when Bush inherited it from Clinton and what was it when he left. What was the unemployment rate when Bush came into office and what was when he left. And he’s the only President to pre-eminently invade a country based on lies, that trumps all the other BS that you commented on. Ten bucks says you are a chickenhawk.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:54 pm
I’ve informed Franken&staff before Monday his claim Sotomayor is conservative, is as false as Sotomayor’s testimony under oath. Watch C-SPAN video http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/07/14/HP/A/20823/Senate+Judiciary+Confirmation+Hearing+for+Judge+Sonia+Sotomayor+Day+2.aspx from 01:57:10 to 01:57:37. Senator Schumer “And has there ever been a case in which you ruled in favor of a litigant simply cause you were sympathetic to their plight even if Rule of Law might not have led you in that direction?” Sonia Sotomayor answered Senator Schumer about 01:57:35, “Never.”
In SupremeCourtCase 06-766 decision Jan16, 2008 of 9-0 found Sonia overturned&ignored
NY election LAW enacted 1921 with NO justification in Constitution, or SupremeCourt Precedent & violating the LAW. His statement’s as false as Sonias. JusticeSCALIA’s opinion with JusticesRoberts&StevensSouterThomasGinsburgBreyer&Alito joining, NY “State…thrice … displayed a willingness to reconsider its method of selecting Supreme Court Justices. If it wishes to return to the primary system…it is free to do so; but…First Amendment does not compel that. We reverse Second Circuit’s contrary judgment.” Justice KENNEDY wrote BREYER concurring, “Rule of law is secured only by the principled exercise of political will. If New York statutes for nominating and electing judges do not produce both the perception and the reality of a system committed to the highest ideals of the law, they ought to be changed and to be changed now. But, as the Court today holds, and for further reasons given in this separate opinion, the present suit does not permit us to invoke the Constitution in order to intervene.” Nomonees who repeatedly falsely testify to Senators under oath need impeachment not confirmation to SupremeCourt.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 6:57 pm
Oh dear Tommy,
“Socialism induces a mental affliction rendering one unable to tell the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, friend from foe, or fact from fiction.”
You mean like:
1. The Bush Doctrine
2. WMD’s in Iraq
3. outing covert CIA agents
4. Deregulating Banking
5. “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.”
6. Warrantless wiretapping of American Citizens
7. Massive Katrina Fail
8. “You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you wish you had.”
9. Extraordinary Rendition
10. Where’s Bin Laden now??
11. Bush- “God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq”
12. Suppressing scientific facts to push ideology
13. “I’m a uniter, not a divider”
14. “I’m going to bring dignity back to the White House.” LOL
15. Illegal Attorney General scandal
16. Scooter Libby convicted
17. Tax Cuts DURING war
18. Haliburton NO-BID contracts (HQ now off-shore, NO TAXES that way)
19. NO ARMOR for the troops
20. Um, I’ll just keep it at a nice even twenty for now. But wait there’s one I’m forgetting…..
Oh yeah, NOW AMERICAN’S ARE THE PEOPLE WHO THINK TORTURE IS OKAY.
What were you were saying, tommyboy?
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:08 pm
Each Senator from MN did a terrific job! Amy was super intelligent and so was Al! I agree with the NYT’s opinion piece I saw recently stating Al Franken needs to be Al–he’s always been smart in addition to being funny. Today he wisely chose just being smart as he exposed a key contradiction of the terribly boring and offensive Republican attack on Sotomayor. Amy and Al could prove to be a good economic development strategy for MN, I am ready to move to claim them!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:18 pm
Now Iowa needs to vote out corporate controlled Grassley.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:25 pm
Wow! I am so proud of Al Franken! Did you see the shock on the faces of all those other Senators? They were all flabbergasted that Sen Franken has such a fantastic command of the issues. I wanted to jump to my feet and applaud him a dozen times.
For the first time in my entire life we have an actual articulate progressive in the US Senate!
Way to go Minnesota! Thank you!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:26 pm
Shades of Paul Wellstone!-Thank You Senator Franken for speaking your mind, and for speaking it well. The truth shall come out about this neanderthal like court, an activist court with some of the spookiest guys I have ever heard, such as Antonin Scalia, and Clarence Thomas. As a progressive liberal from, (of all places), a congressional district controlled by ‘Steve King and His Jesters’, I don’t think the Repugs will be laughing at Sen. Franken, (just a comedian, you know…), as his tenure and timber expands. Besides, it takes talent and intelligence to write about the comedic aspects of life. Franken appears to have statesmanship included as the third leg of his makeup. I miss you Paul Wellstone, but thanks for bringing in Al. He’ll make your beloved Minnesota proud. Just as a postscript, do any of you northerners know whether or not that Bachman ditz owns a wood chipper? If so, a person such as she, really, should be required to have a permit to be able to operate same – and only when supervised by an adult.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:27 pm
May I offer you Minnesotans both Feinstein and Boxer in exchange for Franken? That was an outstanding, fact-laden speech which completely destroyed a useless winger talking point (scarybrownjudicialactivistlegislatingfromthebenchinSpanish). Take note the rest of you (except Feingold and Sanders, you two get it) Senate Dems, and act like the progressive people your consituents thought they were voting for in the first place.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:28 pm
Reading the comments, especially the negative ones, I was under the impression that Senator Franken had made some kind of steam winder of a speech. So I had to look. And having listened to this sober, intelligent and serious statement I am perplexed. Are ye so blind that you can not see or so deaf that ye can not hear. Satan has hardened your heart when you can’t tell the wheat from the chaff. Franken is all wheat. Probably one of the top ten senators currently sitting.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:40 pm
I hope Franken demands an investigation into Wellstones plane crash. Wellstone was the lone voice that could have destoryed Bush and Cheny’s illegal activitys.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:43 pm
so proud of Franken.
Wow. Way to show those clowns up, Franken. He called it OUT. GO FRANKEN!!! Take this country back!! Sanity, truth, honesty, integrity…..thank you thank you thank you.
As a woman, hearing him mention our rights which have been eroded over the Synthetic Cowboy years of Lies made me weak with relief.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 7:51 pm
Senator Franken showed his deep understanding of the court. This man knows a lot more about policy than he received credit for – I hope that people who judged him unprepared to serve because of his comedy backgound are paying attention.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 8:10 pm
I’m having a garage sale and then I’m moving from Texas to Minnesota. I’m tired of being represented by the morons who run this 17th century state. While the world churns, the state of Texas grapples with the question of the world before 6000 years ago.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 8:34 pm
Most Republican voters are either racist, or too stupid to realize they vote against their own wallets.
F**k Republicans.
They’re losing seats right now, and you won’t be seeing them in the White House for a long while.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 8:50 pm
Thanks AL and Amy, AL , you’ve turned out to be exactly what I hoped you’d be. I was PROUD that you were speaking as a minnesota senator. SANITY AT LAST! Finally someone to kick the senates ass in gear. Thanks again al and Amy, WELLSTONE IS LOOKING DOWN ON MINNESOTA WITH A BIG GRIN!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 8:52 pm
Maybe I should move to Minnesota.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 8:59 pm
Thank you Al Franken. You summed up the current state of affairs on the Supreme Court quite nicely. Also, you made the essential point that Sotomayor is not an activist jurist based on her record of 3,000 cases. She is exactly the type of person we need on this self-righteous and all-knowing (in their own minds) court.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 9:09 pm
I envy you Minnesotans. How smart of you to elect two such senators.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 9:14 pm
THANK YOU, AL. Finally, we have a senator with a pair.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 9:23 pm
Judicial activism is in the eye of the beholder. And it certainly doesn’t apply to the Supreme Court where they can overturn precedence of ANY court. Franken would had more credibility if he just said they were biased to big business and rich people.
As for Klobuchar, who’s the bigot here? Instead of looking for the “Micheal Jordan” of judges, you just want to pick a latino woman to the Supreme Court. So, Klobuchar is the bigot for excluding males and whites from being considered Justices to the Supreme Court. Welcome, Klobuchar, to the bigoted hypocrisy club!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 9:28 pm
Great Job Senator Franken,
I want to move to Minnesota now.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 9:34 pm
go get um Senator !!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 9:42 pm
Now you see why the Republican Senatorial Committee saw fit to have a bag-man bring hundreds of thousands of dollars, from Washington D.C. up to Saint Paul, Minnesota where Norm Coleman used the money as fuel to stoke the fires of Hell and keep Al Franken from being sworn-in to the Senate.
The Honorable Mr. Franken has arrived and has begun “Dealing Stud” under the Big Dome and The United States of America is all that much better having him be a dealer.
Minnesota should be exceptionally proud of Senator Al Franken for his recent remarks and the Bill he introduced in his first opportunity to improve the lives of those who need it the most.
Send another 99 guys like Al Franken to the Senate and this Country would heal, rise-up and find its greatness, again. First you need one. We got that one when Al Franken got seated!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 9:46 pm
Al for President.
Every day you were on Air America was the political education of my life. Things were so insane then and the anxiety over Bush crimes so high that yours was the only voice of sanity and hope that came through consistently loud and clear and witty and entertaining. I don’t remember ever hoping you would actually be representing us. What a noble fight!!
And what a gift to have you speaking for us now -you are so obviously superior in knowledge, integrity, and passion for the truth and representing the interests of the American people to any politician of this day.
Love you, Senator.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 10:22 pm
My Congressman is Bill Posey.
My Senator is Bill Nelson.
Both are embarrassing right-wing-chicken-wingers.
Thanks Minnesota for showing the rest of the States that The People CAN make great choices. Florida are you listening?
Franken and Klobuchar are the Best!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 10:30 pm
Thank you, Minnesota, for giving us Al Franken!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
Thank you Dems for having the balls – MAKES Me Proud Also – JUST CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK… Justice Sotomayor – I thany you
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 10:48 pm
Thank you Senator Franken for speaking the truth and kudos for the people of MN for sending you to Congress.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:06 pm
Being a listener of Al Frankens for many years I am not at all surprised at his mastery of the facts , and his superb political outlook.
I am so happy that more people in America are going to get to know him , and be as proud of him as an American as I have always been.
Thank you Minnesota for having the insight to elect him .
If they can have an actor and a clown in office , why can’t we have a comedian ?
Al Franken for president !
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:21 pm
I live in Texas (yes, pray for me), but contributed to Al’s campaign. It’s the only way I could hope for some semblance of representation. His honest, informed, and sober assessment of the current Supreme Court was worth every hard-earned dollar I sent.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:28 pm
WHy would anyone want to kiss W on the lips. ANd you dumb asses in D-6 wanted her back- You are more FFFed up than the posse commitotis from ND
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:29 pm
I am jealous! I’m from SC and my senators are Jim DeMint and Lindsay Graham. Not the sharpest tools in the shed. It is refreshing to listen to Minnesota’s senators speak.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:32 pm
Thank you for governor Franken. He will do a lot of good for your country.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:32 pm
What’s classic is this is what Minnesotans will do to dipsh– Peeplenty. The purging is now beginning and what do the GOPer’s have-Palin and Peeplenty. Good fffffffffin luck
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:34 pm
Lindsay Graham looked like he was sleeping.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:35 pm
WOW!
I can’t believe it, but Al Franken could be a presidential candidate.
That speech was AMAZING!
Really amazing. He could become one of America’s great political orators.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:36 pm
I am very much impressed with Al Franken.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:37 pm
Minnesotans really deserve some credit here. A little back patting; they get a tough rap.
They make some weird choices sometimes, but they’ve really struck gold with Al.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:39 pm
FIRST JEWISH VICE PRESIDENT!!!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:41 pm
Amy and Al reminded this Texan of what a real Democrat should sound like.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:41 pm
Amy and Al reminded this Texan of what a real Democrat should sound like.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:46 pm
Thank the Minnesota man for not giving up the fight against Coleman and his corporate vultures. It so great to hear the truth spoke — at so long last. I am so tired of hearing GOP partisan rhetoric.
Are the all robots with the same bluetooth…. Yeh now dump the Bachman where the idiotic belongs while flying over Alaska.
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:50 pm
Been a fan of Mr. Franken’s for years, fan of his radio show and a supporter of his campaign.
I am thrilled that he spoke out on this issue which has been bothering me, and it seems no one wants to talk about it. Excellent work Senator Franken!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:56 pm
Our democracy is adversarial….We always have one side that contest against another…my problem is.. TRUTH!!! Limbaugh, with the thinnest of facts will make any kind of assertion without rebuttle! He gets 54 million bucks a year to say whatever he wishes on his program! Are there NO STANDARDS? Why can he call a well respected Judge, a racists…why can he call our president, a socialist…why can he deride any of his policies without confrontation right then and there?
I love democracy but there are lines that are crossed daily.
Lastly, these off-springs of the white males of yesteryear, who established this country with slavery and denial of basic human rights to almost ALL minorities; to now try, to defend their wounded pride about a comment of Sotomayer….LUDICROUS! Old racism is far more brutal than anything that has ever happened to any WHITE MALE!
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:57 pm
Odd he didn’t mention the court ruling Bush/Gore… Frankens straight up and as a junior senator hope he does the Chuck Schumer fast rise… Although at this point a doubt they share the same positions…
cheers
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
It’s almost funny to read the comments about racism and sexism coming from people who used racism and sexism to try to derail her nomination. Those of you who keep saying she’ll be an activist judge who uses race and sex to make rulings–pray tell what the hell do you think the white men are doing? You think their rulings are right because you agree with them and when you don’t agree, the judges are being activist. Can you be so naive as to believe judges rule on some abstract concept? Do you not know or did you never learn that all rulings come from each judges interpretation of that law? That interpretation is always based on his sex, religion, culture, class status, education, experiences? Do you believe we all see things the same way? Haven’t you figured out that even when you and I read the same books, read the same words we don’t interpret it the same? Or is it your belief that the interpretations of white men are the only correct ones? I understand you can be scared of someone like Sotomayer because your afraid she won’t validate your privilege over others. Well too damn bad. It’s time for you folks to earn your way and not continue to work the old boys network, or your daddies money or whatever. As you like to tell everyone “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” so now you’ll get the chance to do it yourself and not rely on friends and daddy.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 12:09 am
PALIN-BACHMANN
Our ticket for 2012
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 12:45 am
Barack Obama could learn a lesson from Senator Al Frankin when it comes to straight talk and talking truth to power. If President Obama doesn’t start showing greater political courage and skill in promoting his progressive agenda then maybe he should step aside and support Al Frankin for President in 2012.
Richard Neffson
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:01 am
Andrea D I cannot believe that people are so ignorant, the way you are judging the South Have you ever been here? talk about backwards just read what you have written,such holier than thou attitude and HATE. just who are You to think that you are BETTER than anyone else? you need to educate your self.We are not all idiots like the ones who think we are.BTW who pays you to spew such hatred? and another thing, AL Franken IS an actor thats what they do–act
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:05 am
Way to go Al. As a loyal listener of the old Al Franken show, I’m proud that Al is
finally in the Senate where he belongs.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:09 am
Soonerman, Goodyears Home office is in Ohio,therefore Demoncrats are in charge there.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:14 am
Way to go, Minnesotans. Thanks for electing Al.
I’m a man but I was deeply offended by the way Lindsay Graham talked down to Judge Sotomayor about how aggressive she was. It was like he was saying, “Now, now, missy, don’t speak to your superiors in that way”. What a f***in a**le.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:22 am
Thanks Senators Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar for showing what Senators should be saying and doing in the Senate, and that the rest of sane America wants and voted for in the last election. A change away from a corporate state of the rich silver spoon crowd to one of the people. Senator Harry Reid, “are you listening.” Remember the Republicans lost the last election big time. And will lose the next one also. Show them no preferences or mercy! Do what you were voted in to do. “Can you spell Public Health Care Option.”
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:29 am
I wish I was a Minnesotan – good for you guys.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:00 am
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Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:59 am
Senator Franken keeps going like he is, and his nose clean; I’d vote for him in 2016 for president.
Nice to see an adult has gone to Washington.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 5:42 am
You GO boy!!! Thank god Norm Coleman is out of the senate
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:15 am
To the rest of you Democrats… that’s how you do it, you list the facts….see how easy that was.
Nice work Senator Franken.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:59 am
Well said, Al!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 8:17 am
Thank you for Al and Amy.
Minnesota has clearly been ahead of the curve, and their voters are on par with NY.
One day, the racists and sexists will have NO representation on the hill, and we’ll get things DONE.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 9:09 am
To those keep bashing the South….
Trust me I wish we would secede as well.
1) I am a proud Chicana.And her statements concerning “Proud Latina” were very racist.When you compare your race or ethnicity to be supreme to another race or ethnicity that is called RACISM.Can you say RACISM with me I knew you could. In the very same speech that she compared Latinas to white males she also made the racist comparison towards white women.It is called reading folks.Yes you want to read the full story as opposed to listening to the union dribble that they seem keep feeding you guys up North.
No wonder Minnesota has a unemployment rate of over 20%.
2)Latina/o, Hispanic, and especially Chicana/o pride is based on activism and 90% of the time leans far leftOne only has to do their research to see that her decisions, speeches, and law papers all fall in step with activism.This particular kind of activism is based on racism.Hence the surge of violence towards Blacks,Whites, and Asians in areas where Chicana/o Studies are applied.
I am no Republican.But I saw not one word of sexism or racist comment made to her in the hearings.The Democratics forget very easily the racist comments made by Sen Kennedy concerning Clarence Thomas calling him a “Token” before his confirmation hearings and the absolute disgusting treatment that Sen. Barbara Boxer gave Condoleezza Rice during her hearings.I could keep going with a list of conservative minorities that the Left and the Democrats have slug racism and sexism towards over the years.
This is another weapon used to keep minorities on the slave plantation of the elites in this country.
Well this Chicana ain’t sitting on your porch no more.I call it like I see it.
She is a racist lap dog for the Democratic and Leftist Elite.
Go Tejas!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:04 am
Well, Reading all 201 comments here, I am astounded at the utter ignorance of what the Constitution actually says about the Supreme court. There is a three party system to implement checks and balance into the government. The legistative branch MAKES law, the executive branch EXECUTES the law by signature, the judicial branch ENFORCES LAW as it is written. There is a reason the statue representing Justice is wearing a blind fold. Decisions must be blind to RACE, SEX, POLITICAL IDEALISM! Franken, Klobucher, and many others on BOTH sides are absolutely WRONG in their views of what the judiciary should be, because in my opinion NONE of them have even READ lead alone understand the Constitution of the United States.
Judges are to interpret the letter of the law and not legislate from the judicial bench overturning the will of the people or the laws made by Congress UNLESS it clearly violate the literal meaning of our Constitution. Thomas Jefferson was truly concerned about a judicial oligarchy (like the one developing in this country now) and that it would undermine the entire nation. Hummm. I see our nation being undermined on a daily basis. People, LEARN the constitution, the intent of our Founding Fathers, and the Declaration of INDEPENDENCE before speaking on political topics, which only demonstrates your profound lack of understanding. Both parties are guilty, judges ARE legislating from the bench, and the Executive and Legislative branch and the PEOPLE are not holding anyone in our government accountable.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:33 am
Go Joe!
That is exactly why millions of immigrants have come here.Looking for refuge under the United States Constitution.To find their freedoms and liberties no matter who they are or where they came from.
Sotomayor believes in what is called a “Living constitution” which means it can be changed .This is incorrect in it’s purpose.
It should be applied accordingly not changed.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:51 am
J Espinosa, Very well said Makes one wonder where that Idiot Andrea lives, and hope that all her neighbors don’t feel the same as she does.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 12:27 pm
J. Espinoza, you are so full of shi*t.
Minnesota does not have 20% unemployment. And you’re not a “Chicana”.
And if you think the GOP gives a damn about you, you’re a true American rightwing dipsh*t.
Latinos and other minorities can smell the GOP condescension a mile away.
So stop lying. We know you’re a white troll.
Maybe the GOP will get respect when they show as much economic policy respect to minority taxpayers, as they do to corporations. And maybe denouncing Rush and racist rhetoric would help.
Nice try.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:19 pm
You people are insane! You really need to check your water supply. The highlight of Franken’s involvment of the Sotormayor hearings was his back and forth with her about Perry Mason. And this guy makes you proud? You need to learn some home truths!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:28 pm
Boy did I come in on the wrong site. I am not a Democrat and Franken or Klobachar do not speak for me. I do agree with Klobachar on a few limited issues (such as the census) and wish Franken success with his first bill as I think it makes more sense than mose of the bills presented by either side. I do not agree that Sotomayor should be approved because she is a woman and non white. I have no problem with a woman/non-white but I don’t trust this woman anymore than I trust Obama.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
@Mike
Exactly!!!!
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Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 1:55 pm
Gee, didn’t see that coming Mike.
Like I said I am not a Republican.And like Joe said this ain’t about Dems vs Reps.
Maybe if you got your head out your culo you would see that.
I don’t need to prove my brown to nobody.
The Dems and Elitist Left wear Latina/o and Hispanic rights like the new fad of the week.Maybe you should check your Chicano handbook my friend.But our activism has always been AGAINST Elitist tyranny over La Raza. My grandparents came here to get away from the Classist,Racist, and Elitist fascist government of Mexico.They did not come here to change this country into that.
The Rinos have screwed up no question,but for those of us who oppose fascism and tyranny against the poor we see who the real slave owners.And it is the same idiots that set loose the KKK,ie the Democrats.Do your history pendejo.
Oh wait a minute…I know what you are another White Elitist paid for by the DNC/Progressives to keep minorities in check ,Right!
By calling “uncle Tom’s”,”Traitors”, Racist, sexist,…shall I keep going or shall I go mow your lawn like a good little brown person should.
Next you tell everyone that La Raza is not a racist organization based on running out White’s and Blacks out of Atzlan.That is just a ploy by the GOP! Right, and I don’t eat tacos everyday pendjo.
There are thousands of us, and guess what pendjo we are waking up.We are seeing the truth behind the Oz wizard’s curtain.
We demand our free speech.
We demand our liberties.
We demand the right to able to decided how to lead our lives.
We worked for it with the sweat off our backs and the blood in our veins,just like any American or Immigrant that has come here looking for freedoms.
None of us want the dirty handouts from the government anymore.Maybe you like handouts and like sitting around on your butt and being a nice little landscaper or nanny to some rich White Elitist kids.
Not me.
Whatever Michigan,Minnesota all the Northy States are the same to me.
Michigan 19%
Minnesota 8.4% .Over 160,000 jobs cut in June alone raising the unemployment from 8.1% to 8.4%.(And growing).
Thank God I live in Tejas.
Adios Pendjo!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 2:03 pm
Joe N you are correct, add that I informed them both “The Supreme Court opinion is clear Judge Sotomayor & 2ndCircuit are not reticent to impose “personal judgment” of what they “think should be the law” & what is a “fair shot” no matter what Laws passed by the legislature say, even if there’s no justification in Constitution or Supreme Court precedent for their actions. VOTE NO on the CONFIRMATION!!!! ”
“Surprise, Surprise the name of the person Judge Sotomayor violated the Law, the Constitution, and all existing Supreme Court Election Law precedent to rule in favor of was LOPEZ TORRES. Empathy trumps and over rules the Rule of Law, the Constitution & all existion Supreme Court precedent. EXPLAIN IN DETAIL HOW AND WHY YOU WILL VOTE ON REPORTING THE NOMINATION OUT OF COMMITTEE & ON CONFIRMATION. ”
“THEN EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE NOT SEEKING IMPEACHMENT OF THE JUDGE FOR FALSE TESTIMONY ON HER PAST RULINGS AND THE WAY SHE HANDLES THE LAW, CONSTITUTION AND PRECEDENT. NO MORE IMPORTANT LIE CAN BE MADE BY A SUPREME COURT NOMONEE! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WILL LIE UNDER AN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO SIT ON ANY JUDICIAL BENCH AND NEVER THE SUPREME COURT. ”
Neither Senator has Answered
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 2:05 pm
As a Minnesotan I can say proudly that Al Franken is a joke and an embarassment to the state of MN. He is unfit to represent anything other than hatefull left-wingers. If you want to see courge, look at Michelle Bachman.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 2:16 pm
As usual you right wingnuts are a bit slow on the uptake.
Bachman = courage?? LMFAO
and J.Espinoza, this is a two party system right now like it or not. If you vote republican you are voting against your best interests. I hope you don’t for your sake.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 2:23 pm
HK Hanson you are so right on with that statement.
She totally flat out LIED about everything she wrote, on her past rulings and her speeches.I am ashamed to have a liar represents Hispanics and Latina/os in such a position.At least tell the freakin truth.If you feel that strongly and passionately about your beliefs then why lie about them.
Go Paul!
At least somebodies got a brain in your State.I love Bachmann. We need her here in Tejas, instead yuk! Kay Bailey and Rick Perry!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
RobinCal
I vote for with my conscience and my eyes wide open.Which means I will not vote for Left-wing, Democrats or Progressives ever again!
And that is for my sake.
My People’s sake.
And my children’s sake.
I have been a democrat all my life.And was an out right Liberal for 10 years.
Any minority will tell you that WE have to vote Dem.Even though our conscience, our views on the issues, and our very lifestyles differ from that of the Dem party.How is that for my sake.
If you no minority to ask look at the voting records.Do your research and your history and you will see that minorities views on issues actually stand with the Conservatives both Goldwater Conservatives and Post-Reagan Era Conservatives.And as more of us…you know read,because we can do that.We see that our conscience does not lie with Democrat party as it stands today on any issue.
And the two party system is quickly changing as disenfranchised Democrats and Republicans are joining the ranks of Third parties like The American Independents and Libertarian Party.
This is about Freedom and Liberty to decide what is best for our community, not to stay enslaved to a party, just cause.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
I still have a “Wellstone!” sticker on my car. I vowed not to take it down until there was someone in his old senate seat who would carry on the work of the late, great Sen. Wellstone. Someone who would pursue what is the “right thing to do” not what is the “flavor of the day” (that’s a poke at you, Norm Coleman.) Thank you Sen. Franken, I can now retire my “Wellstone!” sticker. Keep up the good fight!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:15 pm
“J. Espinosa”
Freedom and Liberty mean what, exactly?: Empty rhetoric. Dipsh*t.
When they redirect all your education tax money to fund Tejas prison projects and cut programs for Foster children, I guess you’ll call that “Christian Values”. And when your company has to cut jobs through no fault of their own, and you’re trying to collect your unemployment taxes, I guess Rick Perry or Supreme Court Justice Roberts would either tell you to “pull yourself up by the bootstraps”, or question your “individual responsibility”. i.e. “Go f**k yourself”. Let us know how much “Chicana” pride you feel at the next Teabag party when some ignorant redneck serves you a sh*t taco.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:19 pm
I live in Minnesota and I am humilated by Franken and Klobuchar. Both are Democrat puppets and are not listening to the people in Minnesota at all! You can have them! Both! Cheap…two for one! Have them move to your state!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
Thank you Senator Franken for finally speaking the unspoken truth.
You’ve only been in office a very short time and already you’ve spoken more truth than most dems that has been in office for years.
The Supremes have been activist for many years now. Starting with their crazy anointment of bush as president in 2000. A ruling that even they said was not something that would serve as precedent. It stretched and contorted past rulings and precedent to put our worst president in office. A court that in the past had always honored states rights suddenly decided to exert federal authority when it came to putting a fellow republiCON in office.
Again. Thank you Senator Franken.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
Nice one Mike…very lovely pendjo.
This type of harassment by a Elitist slave owner is excepted when you realize that their nannies and the brown folks mowing your lawns actually DON’T want to do that for the rest of lives.
Rick Perry is a moron,but then again so are you pendjo.You guys must be related.
Doing things for yourself is “pulling yourself by your bootstraps” It is better then eating the “Sh*t tacos” provided by the federal government.
And you have no idea what you are talking about adoption regulations,for real. Seriously!It has nothing to do with supposed “Christian Values”
Oh wait a second you are also one of those creepy Anti-Religion people right?! Figures.
I know plenty of Atheist who don’t come off like whack jobs like you do.
They are actually very nice people,with alot of respect.
You do know what respect is, don’t you pendjo?
Didn’t think so.
Every State has screwed up adoption laws pendjo.If that was not the case then people would not be adopting from Vietnam, China, Russia, etc. They would just go across State lines.
Freedom and Liberty mean I have the CHOICE to live as I chose.
Pray or not pray as I chose.
Be with who I chose.
Go where I chose.
And have the opportunity to make a living for myself and my family pendjo.
And not have to pay out of my pocket for lazy people who want to do nothing but be thugs and welfare leeches.
I have worked in the Chicano community under Pro-Socialist groups for years. What is happening is exactly that maybe even worse.
And I don’t mind Rednecks at least I know they don’t like me,at least they don’t pretend to want to “help” my community only to tear us down.
I got respect for that.I don’t have respect for fakes,tax cheats, Elitist, Left-Wing nut jobs that want to sterilize our communities, and Hollywood cronies.
Hey I have been dying to ask..you get a pretty good paycheck for be a selective racist/sexist? And bullying minorities or is that something you just like to do for giggles?
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
Mike – you are the type of example that proves how “stupidly” many Americans are thinking. Thanks to the government education that has stuffed your fluff full of entitlements and ‘rights’. A few like J. Espinosa have common sense and more important principles and ethics. Most of the people here need to go back to watching Idol or recover from some celebrity crisis. Since they have trouble dealing with the realities of life and need government to tell them what to do.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 4:20 pm
J. Espinosa. You keep using that word “pendjo.”
It’s “pendejo.”
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 4:33 pm
I am not trying to mispell anything. I am dyslexic.
but thank you for the correction.I will try to be more careful in my spelling.
Toodles!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 5:13 pm
Sheesh by the way my name is spelled “Espinoza” not the “s” spelling
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:01 pm
Nice work Mike, you’ve exposed a few monumentally ignorant people.
J.Espinoza says he’s dyslexic and Candy and Marilyn must be too, because everything they think they know is the backwards of reality.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 8:56 pm
RobinCAL
A Chicana is “female” not male.
I guess you only understand other cultures when your party members spoon feed you the information.Not that you even know what a Latina is unless it was to your advantage.i don’t really expect any of you to actually …you know go out and actually learn about someone else’s culture to educate yourself.Don’t worry though good Texas saying that I find really is true “You can fix ignorant,you can’t fix stupid”.
And for a bunch of people who say they are soooo against racsism you all seem pretty racist to me.Like pendejo.
It just screams…”We only like our minorities as long as they know their place.” Right!
Unlike you people I know what Socialism looks like,I know what racism looks like,I know what facsism looks like.
And girl It looks just like a Democrat.
Like a Progressive.
Like a Liberal.
Wait i can’t say Liberal because there ARE NO real Liberals in this country today.
Our Founding fathers were Liberals,both of Texas and the United States. Classical Liberalism is nothing like what Liberals are practicing today.
What supposed self proclaimed “Liberals” really are are fascist in disguise.
Here is some forward thinking.It is called saying what you mean and meaning what you say.
I only respect people who do that.I go by a person or groups actions not by what they SAY they are for or what they are about.
Don’t get me started on PETA.
So to educate you here are the true definitions of Liberalism and Facsism.All you have to do is compare each party by action,not by what they say.Good luck with that ignorant thing pendeja.
Classical liberalism (also known as traditional liberalism, laissez-faire liberalism, and market liberalism or, outside Canada and the United States, sometimes simply liberalism) is a form of liberalism stressing individual freedom, free markets, and limited government. This includes the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, individual freedom from restraint, equality under the law, constitutional limitation of government, free markets, and a gold standard to place fiscal constraints on government as exemplified in the writings of John Locke, Adam Smith, Ludwig von Mises, David Hume, David Ricardo, Voltaire, Montesquieu and others. As such, it is the fusion of economic liberalism with political liberalism of the late 18th and 19th centuries. The “normative core” of classical liberalism is the idea that laissez-faire economics will bring about a spontaneous order or invisible hand that benefits the society, though it does not necessarily oppose the state’s provision of some basic public goods with what constitutes public goods being seen as very limited. The qualification classical was applied retroactively to distinguish it from more recent, 20th-century conceptions of liberalism and its related movements, such as social liberalism.Classical liberals are suspicious of all but the most minimal government and object to the welfare state.
Fascism: comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in combat against the weak. Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement. Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept. Fascism is much defined by what it opposes, what scholars call the fascist negations – its opposition to rationalism, liberalism, conservatism, capitalism, and communism. In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a “Third Way” in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state communism. This was to be achieved by a form of government control over business and labour (called “the corporate state” by Mussolini).
Adios pendeja!
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 11:18 pm
I just wanted to express my support for Al too. I’m so, so proud of him and happy that I voted for him. This is EXACTLY why I have been such an enthusiastic voter for him. Al, you’re living up to my expectations and then some. I’ve never seen a politician do that. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart!
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 12:57 am
The dumbing down of America is alive and well in Minnesota…
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 1:22 am
Thank God I didn’t move to MN years ago when I had the opportunity. What a bunch of buffoons. You are proud of AL FRANKEN???? He is the biggest fool to grace the steps of the capital. Maybe not, there’s been numerous Democrats in Washington.
Someone mention Air America in one of the comments. Didn’t the “Great Sen. Franken” misappropriate some of Air America’s funds. Real good. Just the upstanding guy MN needs to send to Washington.
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 2:20 am
Great job, Senator Franken!
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Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:06 pm
WOW! I am absolutely dumbfounded with this site! I thought this was suppose to be an INDEPENDENT site, but it sure doesn’t like or sound like one.
All of the people that posted here are too caught up in their own euphoria to realize what is happening…I thought liberals and democrats were the ones who thought competition is terrible and needs to be gotten rid of, but you are the first ones to say “WE WON” when we talk about Obama or Franken…or the first ones to point fingers at Republicans and Bush or anyone else that doesn’t have a Democrat or Liberal LABEL. What world do you live in?
Franken is a “hero” and Minnesotans are “proud” of him…what did he do?!?!?!? Vote and stand up for a racist, precedent seeking, unconstitutional judge?!?! Why is that something to be proud of? This state is a perfect example of what is happening to this country!!!!!!!! We don’t teach kids the TRUTH about history in public schools, state and local newspapers don’t report the TRUTH, senators CHEAT their way into office, and we fund ILLEGAL immigrants like they are paying taxes for all that they are getting from this state!!!!!!!! How to a reasonable, sensible person does this MAKE SENSE?! I mean HONESTLY, how does that add up?!?! Everyone on here and in this country are SOOO distracted!!! They take more time out of their day to insult and degrade people that they forget that those people they are talking too are PEOPLE TOO!!!
This is just feel good shit, our country and this STUPID state are so caught up in making sure that feelings are being felt and TOTALLY defacing their opponents they forget that more things connect us then separates us!!!!!!! If someone doesn’t agree with you, why does it resort in name calling and degrading verbiage?!?! If someone doesn’t agree with you, it should be discussed and debated and you should still be able to sit down with that person and talk about life, not be so disguised that you would throw up being by them. But that art is lost because kids don’t get thought that and our cultures tells us that we can have anything we want and if we can’t, we are going to find a way to get it or feel it.
I just hate that the government and media are so caught up in making sure we argue with each other, what do we have to argue about? We may disagree with things, but we should always be able to come to a compromise. But things are out of our hands now, the progressives have clouded our minds with filth and made us all forget that WE ARE A HUMANS TOO!!!! Make us forget that we have so much more in common then we would like to admit, at the end of the day, people just want to be respected and that DOESN’T happen here or much in this country.
We should all be ashamed of ourselves that we have allowed things to come this far….We have had terrible presidents (from both sides) since the civil war, we have allowed Congress men and women to vote for their pay increases when most are struggling to pay their rent, we have allowed presidents to write Executive Orders that have created huge amounts of debt, we have distracted ourselves with T.V. reality shows and a thirst for entertainment that we can never seem to quench, we have allowed ourselves to name call and dehumanize others just because they don’t agree with us, but most of all, we have voted people into office that haven’t been true to themselves or to the people they voted for. WE have allowed ourselves to get here, now START to think for yourselves and realize that we all have bills to pay, places we want to go, things we want to do, experiences that we want to share….but most of all we have ideas then the people dictating our lives…
I don’t believe in “ism’s” because once they are gone….what “ism” is going to provide for you and your family and friends??!???
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:15 pm
J.Espinoza you are AMAZING!! Thank you for standing up for yourself and those in this country that DO work day in and day out and just want the government to leave us alone and let us make our own decisions.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! If the South secede’s I’m moving there
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 6:31 pm
Wooooho DERANGED!
That was awesome.
spoken like a real American.Not Liberal,Conservative,Republican or Democrat.
But like an American.
That is the way it should be.That is true freedom.To be able to be who are and say what you feel without being bullied by the Government and it’s well paid croonies.
I have spen to much time with my eyes closed and now I can see.
The best was about teaching the truth in schools.Believe or not we are about to do battle here in Texas.
The new appointees to the board of education have made great suggestions for putting more of an emphasis on the teaching of the constitution here in our school systems.But the crazy thing is they want to take historical figures out of the text books,like Cesar Chavez.I agree with the constitution issue but we should teach history as it is.We start changing history then you are looking for trouble no matter what your political ideologies are.
Take it easy DERANGED.
And come on down to Tejas any time=)
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 6:46 pm
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Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 9:30 pm
Wow J.Espinoza, glad to see you’re getting all excited about what DERANGED had to say.
I’m just wondering why you didn’t sign off to him with….Adios pendeja, like you did to me and others on this thread.
I bet you never considered that YOU could be who DERANGED was referring to since you couldn’t summon the courage to take responsibility for your own contribution to name calling and defacing your opponents.
Peace.
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 9:58 pm
RobinCal~ Missing the point like normal!
Why did you even ask why he didn’t sign off on it in a certain way…what does that matter?!?! The little things that you and others are concerned with are the EXACT issues that are wrong. Are you that IMPORTANT that he needs to explain to you why he didn’t sign off with those words?! There could be ample reasons why he didn’t sign off with certain words, but why the heck does it matter? You have completely missed everything that we are trying to get across to people; and you have missed it because your party has deluted your mind with petty, minute arguments that don’t hit on substance. I noticed that you didn’t comment on ANY OF HIS IDEAS or substance that he pointed out, but on little things that a 14 year old girl would say….”oh my gosh Terry, did you see what Theresa was wearing today?” You take offense to EVERYTHING someone else says when it isnt in line with what you think. You take offense to trivial matters, and not to ideas or factual information?!?!? Why? Is NOTHING that he said worth talking or discussing about?
He is a minority, the people your party or ideaology says to care about, unless you are a minority with an opinion different then yours and all the other progressives in the country. If I could suggest, read this book, “My Grandfather’s Son” by Clarence Thomas. In his book, he points out how he, as an African American in America, bought into the mass movements of the Black Muslims and radicals during the civil rights ear, but soon realized that those ideaologies, created by progressives and democrats, were and ARE holding back more blacks, than it is helping them. He points out that he wasn’t hated for his skin color, but his ideaology and that people in the north were more racist towards him then in the South, where he had grown up. There are MANY things to be taken from his book, but the bestest point he makes is that much of what the government has done in the name of racism is actually reversed racism.
Point being that people shouldn’t have to be apologetic for their OPINIONS, because that is something we are entitled to. But more importantly, he didn’t start the name calling, he was explaining his opinion and Mike was generous enough to start the name calling, why aren’t you holding Mike to same standard that you are holding J. Espinoza? Is it because Mike’s opinions are in-line with yours? If I remember right Mrs. Whalen in the Gates/Cromley case was called a racist by the media and Gates, but we have PROOF that she made NO reference to race?!?! This begs the question: who are the real racists?
Not only did you miss the point of my post, but you managed to point out all the hypocrises and double standards that exsist in the country and for that I Thank You, because we NEED to talk about these and be able, on a personal and national level, admit when we are wrong and fess up to our short comings.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:48 am
Yet another TANTRUM OF IGNORANCE from you or pendejo espinoza (probably same person).
Your thinking is shallow. You demand to be taken seriously yet your command of simple things like spelling reveals a lack of intellectual depth, (example, it’s deluded not deluted). And it’s ideology and ideologies not ideaology or ideaologies. Looks like someone “missed the point” in spelling class or doesn’t know how to turn on spell-check. I know that seems like I’m being harsh but since you are so deeply blinded by your own I D E O L O G Y , I thought you may want to get that one right next time.
You ask why I don’t hold Mike to the same standard. Well probably because Mike didn’t act like he fell in love over a post lecturing about “degrading verbiage”. Okay okay, I’ll spoon-feed it to you, Mike was not being a hypocrite and J.Espinoza was.
You stated: “If I remember right Mrs. Whalen in the Gates/Cromley case was called a racist by the media and Gates, but we have PROOF that she made NO reference to race?!?! This begs the question: who are the real racists?”
First of all, are you suggesting that Blacks don’t experience racism from cops? I hope not because that would take you to an even deeper level of ignoramity (yeah, my word) then even Mike realized, and that’s saying something.
True Whalen never mentioned race, but chew on this, the cop LIED in his official report multiple times! His report said Whalen mentioned “two black men,” furthermore Crowley (the cop) wrote in his “official report” that he spoke to Whalen outside before approaching Gates house, but she stated that she never spoke to him at all, another Lie. Personally I don’t care if it’s racism or not. He lied about an arrest, not to mention he entered Gates home without asking permission which is a violation of the U.S. Constitution I believe. And you’re worried about who the real racists are while we have a lying cop with a gun violating a citizen’s Constitutional rights and lying about it? Maybe YOU need to get your priorities straight, tiger. Or maybe that’s just fine with you. Name calling is something to get worked up about, but abuse of authority is just what we need to teach those “reverse racists” a lesson. You sound kinda like a Racism Denier. Is that anything like a Holocaust Denier?
Clearly, what you think are facts are just figments of your imagination. I saw a great bumper sticker once and I think it applies to you, it said: Don’t Believe Everything You Think.
And CLARENCE THOMAS!!??
’nuff said.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 9:05 am
Jeez Louise just look at this mess.
But that is expected from fascist.
RobinCAL….Pendeja/o = dumbass.
Just so you understand what it means pendeja.
I guess I should have “know what was good for me” right! Then I wouldn’t have pendejas like you all over my statements,ranting incoherent dribble.And not even addresses the issues or talking points.
Of course the fascist left gets upset when any minority does not know their place and then stands for their ideals.Look at the Holy then Thou Sen. Boxer.Best example yet of Progressive & Elitist getting frazzled by a minority practicing their FREEDOMs and not kissing her culo.
Look at the disgusting treatment of Condoleezza Rice and many other minorities that Chose to think differently receive.
Oh no, God forbid they think on their own!
Your mere sneer at Clarence Thomas proves that a minority that worked his way through the system of injustices,not only from the mainstream society but also his own community.When this double standard ceases to exist then we shall have the freedoms that we deserve.Same goes for poor white folk.They are called horrible names by the Elitist society bent on enslaving ALL those they deem lower then their oh so “Intelligenctuals selves”
DErAndeD,you make a great point about the North.I have visited several States up North and with the exception of NY city (luv the peeps there. Bad politicians)I was stared at and harassed like crazy for going into Black and even White communities to visit friends.The tension between races and different ethnicities up there you could with a knife.We have our fair share of morons down here.But our communities mix way better.The Black and Hispanic/Latino and even much of the white communities are basically fusing.There are far more mixed couples and interracial families here then there.Hell you can get you some homemade tamales on side of the street and go get you some greens & cornbread on the other.(Best in the world I tell you=)
After the Civil War.(It’s that whole changing history thing again).But Yankee soldiers murdered and raped not only the Southern White women, but also the now freed slaves.The tensions were no better up North.They are just better at hiding it.YES we did have the KKK but if people actually did their History they would see that the KKK was founded by the Democrats NOT the Republicans.Ie. Sen. Byrd who as KKK leader and top recruiter also kow as a “Cyclops”.
It shows in their treatment of minorities that stand apart from their ideals.
RobinCAL and others like her think that minorities should bow to their whim.If we step out of line then we should eat …like Mike said …their “shit tacos”.
“You better get back in your place slave.Get back on that porch!”
This is why she fails to reprimand anyone that agrees with her whacked out idea of equality.
Even worse is the treatment of those in the GLBT communities when they come out of the Conservative closet=)
They get more respect and understanding from their “bible Thumping, homophobic” families then they do from the Fascist Left,Democrats & lovely Progressives.
But that would be a totally different story.
Addressing Sotomayor.She clearly lied during her confirmation hearing concerning her speeches,rulings, and even law articles.If you read any of them,which I have.And then listen to her in the confirmation hearing she was the exact opposite.
Franken obviously showed his great vetting skills by going through a wonderful back and forth on some obscure episode of Perry Mason show.Very good job for distracting from what is an extremely important process of appointing someone to the Highest court in the Land.The court that ultimately protects our individual rights. (And what was that crap about Nacy drew? Seriously, ever Latinas role model is always their mother,whether we agree with thier way life or not.That was just disrespectful to her Mom. But that is a personal opinion).
These are the issues that people find wrong with this confirmation and the way to which Franken and his sidekicks handle this situation.
There are plenty of judges that are both minorities and Democrat that understand that political, personal, bias is not to interfere with Law. Hence Lady Justice is blind.Can’t get any clearer then that.
As far as I could see,and I watched the entire confirmation (just painful).I did not see anything that I would see as sexist or racist.And the Republican Senators gave her far more respect then any Democrat gave Clarence Thomas,Judge Alito, or even Condoleezza Rice.I truly recommend finding those transcripts and reports and you see a CLEAR cut differences in the way they were treated.
by the way I will find that book by Thomas thank you for the reading suggestion.I would suggest for anyone here to read Star Parker’s “Uncle Sam’s Plantation” and her new one ” White Ghetto” both incredible books.
Vaya con Dios.=
Go with God.
By the way RobinCAL I am A Chicana = woman. I am not a man. So you may call me pendeja;]
At least get that right. That is okay we can fix ignorant just takes time pendeja.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 9:24 am
I have one more recommendation for reading. To truly understand the basis for Progressive thought read any of Margaret Sanger’s books and medical articles concerning the inferiority of minorities and ALL those in the lower class.
I would start first with her own writings.As they are clear as day the intent of what her work and beliefs were for.Then move on to the books that criticize her like Knowles, Jon (2004). “The Truth About Margaret Sanger”.Sanger is a held on high by Progressives as one of their founders basically.
By the way I am a Pro-choice woman, not sure for how much longer as I educate myself to the realities of these practices and the harm it does to lower class communities.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 10:01 am
LOL
Talk about a mess. It’s fascinating that you really expect people to read your massive rambling diatribes.
Ever hear of the term diarrea of the mouth? Heh, of course you haven’t, you’re too busy ranting to hear anything.
You take care now.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 10:39 am
Yummy diarrhea! I guess that goes in sh*t tacos,yeah!
If you can’t address a talking point or address any of the issues\concerns that people bring up without insulting them pendeja that means you have nothing to say and no huevos or facts to back up your opinions.
Here let me help you,ignorant.
The best way to counter act any of the issues that I pointed out or things that I stated. Would be 1) Sanger , although a racist and supporter of eugenics did in fact advance women’s rights through health issues.Ie VD awareness and made a real impact by providing the community with a resource for health issues.
That would have been MY reaction to a HEALTHY Non-aggressive discussion on talking points with a rational individual that differs in opinion\views.
2) The Sotomayor talking points.Even though it is obvious that her speeches,law articles, and some rulings clearly conflict with her statements during the hearing,the record still shows that her rulings fall in step with the rulings of the current Supreme Court rulings in similar cases.Just no to the reasoning that she would make such rulings.
That pendeja is a healthy debate on the issue.
It is called acknowledging facts plain and simple.No matter what those facts are.Good or bad,see it the way it is,instead of using things like race and sexism as a tool to advance your agendas.
Senator Klobuchar had said absolutely nothing about the obvious sexism that Hillary went through during the campaign and then threw her support behind Obama.Now that it is to her advantage she readily uses sexism as a way to push the agendas of her party.Things such as racism and sexism\misogyny are horrible things and should not be used as tools by politicians or individuals for their personal or political gains.
That is fascism.
Demeaning,belittling,humiliating,harass, and demonizing anyone and everyone that does agree with your ideology is also fascism.
It is not even true Liberalism.
See ya later Mike!…Ooops I mean RobinCAL- ….Ooops again I mean pendeja.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 10:59 am
You are seriously dumb.
I won’t waste my time with a pathetic white poser who knows a couple of words of Spanish.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 11:47 am
Ta da!
And the pendejo returns!
Lovely comment coming from the oppressor.
Yet again no substance all dribble..dribble..drooling.As my good friend Okpulot would say.
Actually I know three languages.But this is an English site so I find it best to treat it as such.But i can not help myself when it is just so obvious what certain people are.
And if I dare say you maybe a brown also? Yes,No, Maybe?! Then you should no better then that. Immigrants, before the Chicano movement of the 70’s,often refuse to allow their children to speak Spanish as they wish for their children to assimilate into the culture here and “become Americans” so to speak.So when it comes down to a second or third generation Chicana/o many of things even our own language we have to learn on our own.If you are a carnal then shame on you for acting as a bullwhip for the elitist.All I can say is the education of the Chicana/os is changing.We are finding more that the Elitist fundamentalist that we have so furiously fought since the movement began in the 70’s has taken a different shape.The “We know whats best for you” Left.
The movement has go array.True Chicanoism is in the words of Dolores Huerta
“Pride and roots is what it is. It definitely does not mean separation or nationalism in the sense that we want to go back to Mexico.”.
This speaks for itself that every Chicano and Latino should follow.If we do otherwise then we fail our culture and our heritage,for Chicanos are not Mexicanos we are in fact Americans.we are literally the bridge between the two cultures.And we should have pride in that.
I have pride in that.
I need not explain my brown to you or anyone else.You will attack this as rant,oh well go ahead.But you act as you know so much about Chicano or otherwise.If that is the case then you can know what I am talking about.And if not …well we know the poser;)
Adios Mike(pendejo)!
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:24 pm
J.Espinoza~ We are definitely on the same level! I wonder if RobinCal and Mike are teachers….my guess is that THEY ARE! They probably teach this same double standard, silent racism in their classrooms along with teaching kids that they SHOULD not and can’t think for themselves. They also, probably mark up their papers with red ink and belittled students when the mess up with spelling and degrading them for not being as smart as them. I really don’t get Elitist attitudes, but the verbiage “Elitist” should say it all.
RobinCal~ you pointed out my flaws, just another progressive/democrat ploy to make your opponents feel subboardinated and make yourself feel better, if it’s worth anything you made your fair share of grammatical and spelling errors…but they don’t apply to you or Mike. The only things you give as information on the Gates/Cromley case are things you saw and heard on CNN, FOX, and/or MSNBC. Do you always just repeat what you hear? And does thinking for yourself hurt that much? You may have a big heart, but not being able to think for yourself is going to get you into trouble. The government is going to mandate your life and you are going to be the only person to blame. They already mandate our life with hypocrisies and “Do as I say (mandate) not as I do” policies, but you are too busy hiding behind a keyboard and just waiting for someone to have their own thought so you can be offended!
Also, I am really curious how you EVEN thought that I was J.Espinoza….That thought never even crossed my mind because I speak from myself and myself only…and I don’t have to pretend to be someone else. But it sounds like you have a lot of experience in that “posing like someone else” on the internet…did you learn that when you were working with the Obama campaign?
I just feel sorry for your students and children (if you have any) because instilling a mindset of hopelessness and loyalty to a party that you don’t seem to understand to a chilling thought! I am an educator and I couldn’t think of doing anything close to indoctornating my students because that is a disservice to their character and their potential.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:33 pm
In the words of the great Jack Nicholson, “The Truth? You can’t handle the Truth.”
And another one, “An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head. “~ Eric Hoffer…never heard of him…maybe you should look him up
And lastly, “There is perhaps no more reliable indicator of a society’s ripeness for a mass movement than the prevalence of unrelieved boredom. In most all the descriptions of the periods preceding the rise of mass movements there is reference to vast ennui; and in their earliest stages mass movements are more likely to find sympathizers and support among the bored than among the exploited and oppressed. To a deliberate fomenter of mass upheavals, the report that people are bored stiff should be at least as encouraging as that they are suffering from intolerable economic or political abuses.
When people are bored, it is primarily with their own selves that they are bored. The consciousness of a barren, meaningless existence is the main fountainhead of boredom. People who are not conscious of their individual separatedness, as is the case with those who are members or a compact tribe, church, party, etcetera, are not accessible to boredom. The differentiated individual is free of boredom only when he is engaged either in creative work or some absorbing occupation or when he is wholly engrossed in the struggle for existence. Pleasure-chasing and dissipation are ineffective palliatives. Where people live autonomous lives and are not badly off, yet are without abilities or opportunities for creative work or useful action, there is no telling to what desperate and fantastic shifts they might resort in order to give meaning and purpose to their lives. ” ~Eric Hoffer…what an AWESOME GUY!!!
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:38 pm
You’re an educator?
Do you teach Ignorantology 101 or Advanced Ignorantology?
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:45 pm
J.Espinoza~ Sorry that I referred to you as a man, I was being sexist
I thought I was the only woman on the planet that thought for herself
Liking you more and more!! Sorry about inferring the wrong gender…Love that Site by the way!! Good find!
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:51 pm
Aw, maybe you two should get a room.
You could “educate” each other.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:56 pm
RobinCal~ please explain my ignorance?
Ignorance- “the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.” dictionary.com
Ignorant- ” 1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.” dictionary.com
I’m pretty sure, and it’s written so we have proof, that you are the one who is ignorant. I’m not name calling aside from the fact that I “call a spade a spade”. You have proven your ignorance by glossing over the talking points that J.Espinoza and I have made. But you have gone even further by forgetting Clarence Thomas and who is was…if you ever knew! He has a proven track record of obtaining his success through hard work and determination, what does Franken have or Obama, or Klobuchar have?!?! Obama can’t even prove that he is a LEGAL citizen, yet is the pres of the U.S….. I would say this is ignorance at it’s best along with the post you had:
“And CLARENCE THOMAS!!??
’nuff said.”
You stated his name and never gave me any of your opinions or factual information that you may have about him and finished with ” ’nuff said” which is: 1. wrongly denoted with grammar and denotation and 2. I have NO idea what that means, in that, you haven’t said ANYTHING about him that would require you to say, ” ’nuff said”. So upon further investigation who is the ignorant one?
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:59 pm
Yet another example of how jealous you are….we are “schooling” you….and you have no idea what to say, so you PERSONALLY attack us…
“sticks and stones may break my bones, but you, my friend, will always be mean”
I’m sorry!
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:43 pm
And you’re a “birther”
LMAO.
’nuff said
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:45 pm
Go Deranged!
Glad you like the site,look me up I run the Left to Right group for recovering Liberals (like myself) and disenfranchised Dems & Republicans.
One little suggestion you made reference to RobinCAL’s kids (if she has any).Let’s leave things like that alone.Only because then it lowers you to a “yo mama” joke status.Besides we are not the left.We should never ever attack children.
But that is my opinion.
I like being ignorant! I am ignorant of many things.But you can fix ignorant,you can’t fix stupid.LOL!
Love that saying.
I am beginning to wonder where our little friend stands.I mean , I even argued points for her,yet she just can’t seem to pick it up.And actually make a valid point worth discussing.
Go figure,right.
Anyways,hope to see you around the site.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
I disagree with the “birther” thing.
but there is a very valid point that they make.If it is not true just show the long hand version, that he has acknowledge that he does have, and been done with it.Why spend millions of taxpayer dollars fighting it.Just make it public and let’s just move on.
He did campaign on “Transparency”.yet has shown he is not going to do that.Another promise based on rhetoric, broken.
But this article is about the Sotomayor confirmation hearings.That is what should be dissected here.We have gotten off topic because of the attacks by these few.Which means if they can get us off topic then they “Win”.
so back to task.i have made my points,you have made yours along with a couple of other people…still waiting on a rational,healthy explanation from these two.
[I might be waiting a long time=)]
Adios chica
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 3:14 pm
Whoever said, “Don’t Believe Everything You Think” really had people like you in mind.
“I disagree with the “birther” thing.”
– But then you agree in the next sentence.
“I am a proud Chicana.And her statements concerning “Proud Latina” were very racist”
– But in fact she never said that.
“No wonder Minnesota has a unemployment rate of over 20%”
– But in fact that is not even close.
“Latina/o, Hispanic, and especially Chicana/o pride is based on activism and 90% of the time leans far leftOne only has to do their research to see that her decisions, speeches, and law papers all fall in step with activism.This particular kind of activism is based on racism.Hence the surge of violence towards Blacks,Whites, and Asians in areas where Chicana/o Studies are applied.”
– What particular kind of activism? Is this supposed to make sense?
“The Democratics forget very easily the racist comments made by Sen Kennedy concerning Clarence Thomas calling him a “Token”
– Big talk, let’s see some backup, sparky.
“senators CHEAT their way into office”
– I suppose you are referring to Al Franken. Care to prove that one? Didn’t think so.
” the progressives have clouded our minds with filth”
– You mean filth like: Obama is a terrorist? or Obama isn’t a legitimate President? or I hope Obama fails? or Sotomayor is a racist?
“If the South secede’s I’m moving there”-(Deranged) & “Trust me I wish we would secede as well.”-(J.Espinoza)
– You don’t sound very American to me. Why don’t you just STFU and leave!
“The only things you give as information on the Gates/Cromley case are things you saw and heard on CNN, FOX, and/or MSNBC”
– Hey Deranged, his name is Crowley and what I mentioned about that case was directly from the cop’s police report. Facts! Shake yourself. You call yourself and educator but you can’t even do a simple Google search in order to make an intelligent reply. You posted the definition of ignorant, did you bother to read it? Uninformed, unaware??? Hello?
“I’m pretty sure, and it’s written so we have proof, that you are the one who is ignorant.”
– WRONG, see above for ….. proof. LOL
“Obama can’t even prove that he is a LEGAL citizen, yet is the pres of the U.S….. I would say this is ignorance at it’s best”
– This story has been debunked so many times that it simply boggles the mind as to how you could continue to make a fool of yourself.
“you have no idea what to say, so you PERSONALLY attack us”
– I think it was YOU who was attacking my children. Hypocrite.
“’nuff said” which is: 1. wrongly denoted with grammar and denotation and 2. I have NO idea what that means”
– See definition of ignorance. Also see definition of grasping at straws.
Oh well, I guess that’s enough “factual” crushing of stupido bumpkins for now.
Keep up the laughs folks, this is kinda therapeutic.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 4:21 pm
You can’t blame the kids, I was wrong in that, but you can however blame the parents! So my point was misconstrued and for that I apologize. It just takes a very strong person to not let the verbal attacks get to a person, so I must have a lot to learn.
RobinCal~ I don’t even know how to reply for two reasons: One, none of your anecdotes, after so nicely quoting the two people on here that have a different opinion then you, mention any reference to something that could be used as factually information…they were opinions. Even the cops police report, you have to consider the source, and secondly…..I just don’t get your mindset!!! It absolutely baffles my mind how people can think this way!!! Do you have a job? Do you do anything but come on the internet and look for a fight? I’m dyslexic, that is why I kept misspelling his name…thanks for rubbing it in!!
But the police reports is as follows: “She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males…” She had already made the call and she was giving him a DESCRIPTION of the men….what was she supposed to say??!?! When you are describing what you saw…aren’t you suppose to mention any physical appearance that will help the police identify of whom you were talking about??! Why does that make her a racist?
I really don’t know how to comment on the others because they are your opinion and you are entitled you one…everyone is? I was merely pointing out that people have put their trust in people that DON’t deserve it….Yes, Progressives have clouded our minds with filth because Woodrow Wilson is claimed as a hero of this country, yet was the biggest racists of them all. He took normal black jobs and gave them to white people, he also refused to sit down with a group of accredited black men and disgust his racial inequalities this group was feeling. Progressives have told us they care about the community and people, yet have done NOTHING to help them but pass more legislation that causes division among races, creeds, and ethnicities!!! They have and still do full children’s minds with indoctrination and lies. Case in point, Al Gore’s Global Warming scheme, even though scientist have come together against this scam, the government doesn’t believe them and what happens….more legislation!!
” ‘you have no idea what to say, so you PERSONALLY attack us’
– I think it was YOU who was attacking my children. Hypocrite.” Yes, I made a mistake and I apologize for bringing in your children, it was WRONG of me. I will find a more tactful way to get my point across next time!! But that was ONE TIME for me…and every time you posted back, it was an attack!
“ ‘If the South secede’s I’m moving there’-(Deranged) & ‘Trust me I wish we would secede as well.’-(J.Espinoza)
– You don’t sound very American to me. Why don’t you just STFU and leave” Didn’t the Right say that when Bush was in office and it was wrong to say that….why is it ok now?
And I leave you with this~ I have realized these sites are a waste of time, because you go in with a good intention and it get misconstrued. I wanted to try and bring in a new way of thinking, but it is hopeless. I don’t affiliate myself with a side…it makes a person become close minded!
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 4:24 pm
RobinCal, do you have any factual information to actually prove the position in which you support. All you do is make claims, and your neither disprove or prove anything.
And debunked? Is it really debunked? There has been zero visual confirmation from any source confirming the birth certificate. There is one person in Hawaii who has made two claims of confirming the certificate exists. One person!
So, if I have this right, I’m guessing your originally did not side with the police in this case, which is ridiculous, yet you of all people decide to take the police report as fact. To me that just does not make any sense. You sound conflicted.
And if you’d like a history lesson as to what progressives support in the modern day, in history those views are known and communism and socialism, historically they have never worked, because humans are imperfect, and a perfect world does not exist, except in the sick demented minds of Liberals, Socialists, Communists, Fascists, and Statists.
Also, do you honestly believe the election of Franken wasn’t a scam. How is it he won by nearly the same tally Coleman won by in November? Now, I don’t support Coleman, and I will never support Franken, but does that not seem odd to you? Common sense would cause a person to question it, and not necessarily believe a recount headed by Mark Ritchie, who is obviously biased, no matter what the man says on t.v.
And if you’re going to speak of racism I would only recommend going back and watching the debates in the Democratic Primaries from last year. It wasn’t the Republicans making race an issue, it was between the Democrats, and it poured in to the General Election. That’s fact, based on observation, and it doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. So it would be easy to link Democratic supporters to their leaders, why? Because people that have your similar like mindedness, overlook the actual issues, are only worried about themselves and what government can do for them, and will vote on knee-jerk reactions or vote on the premise of two words, hope and change. Do you have any idea how ignorant that actually makes you sound?
So thanks for voting on the issues, or possibly voting for one issue only, rather than full spectrum. You and people like you have condemned this country to years of debt, weakening this country, and taking steps closer to socialism. All because you were blinded by “hope and change”, a lot of people saw all of this coming, but not you, and that is ignorance.
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 4:24 pm
J.Espinoza~ Thanks for the advice…it’s good and I agree! I will try to look you up and join the fight
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 4:28 pm
“Latina/o, Hispanic, and especially Chicana/o pride is based on activism and 90% of the time leans far leftOne only has to do their research to see that her decisions, speeches, and law papers all fall in step with activism.This particular kind of activism is based on racism.Hence the surge of violence towards Blacks,Whites, and Asians in areas where Chicana/o Studies are applied.”
– What particular kind of activism? Is this supposed to make sense?
Pick up any book,you know reading is good.
Pick up any book taught in Chicano studies and the type of Left leaning activism is based in socialism.In the Marxist Manifesto it clearly states that race along with class warfare can be used to tear the current government of the country in order to establish Socialism in said country.
Ideas of redisrubution of wealth are also carried out in many of the doctrines of Chicano orgaizations.http://www.insearchofaztlan.com/plan.html
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc0904/article_766.shtml
Of course I disagree with the birther idea.I did not agree,you should learn to read correctly.I said I did not agree but they had a point.Just show the freakin think and then we can all just move.it is a distraction.And he has spent millions on lawyers in order to fight any attempt to provide that document.
If you haven’t done anything wrong then why act suspicious.Come on seriously.
Hey I am an American.It is called the “home of the Free” for a reason.America was never to be anything other then what was outlined in the constitution.It was intended to protect EVERYONE’s indiviual rights.
I would say that any one who supports Socialism and practices fascism is definitely not an American.Such as yourself.
http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html
Reading recommendations : The Mexican American Heritage: With Writing Exercises by Carlos Jimenez. Where the first theories of Aztlan have come into play in today ‘ Chicano movement.
Unless you have been a part of these groups you would never understand their true nature.
I have been.
The Chicano movement has been commandeered by thugs,Gangbangers, racist, and socialist.
Read you learn more that way.
You are right I mispoke she never said “proud Latina” she said “Wise Latina”. To emphasis her assertion that whites are inferior to Latinos.
Once again when you compare your race,ethnicity or culture to that of someone else’s to assert that they are inferior to you that is called Racism.
Yes,racism and prejudice.Do you need a dictionary.
Maybe if you don’t KNOW what racism is then you should run around acting like you see it.
The only things you have done is pick,pick like a 1st grader.You have not once touched on anything relevant to the subject.i even gave you points to argue.
i worry about people like you.
You should really lay off the Lefty Koolaid there.
Adios pendeja
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 4:30 pm
“You and I, as individuals, can, by borrowing, live beyond our means, but for only a limited period of time. Why, then, should we think that collectively, as a nation, we’re not bound by that same limitation? We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow.”~Ronald Reagan
“In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we’ve been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden”~Ronald Reagan
Comment posted August 2, 2009 @ 10:49 am
Dear Coachslife, Your & many other liberals comments are reasoned but they also make clear you have never bothered to read the January 16, 2008 Supreme Court opinion in Case 06-766 LINK http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-766.pdf The plaintiff in the case Lopez Torres was a NY lower court judge seeking election to a higher court in NY Sotomayor ruled in her favor ordering that NY Election Law be ignored and a primary be held. By a unanimous 9 to ZERO opinion Supreme Court Justices ruled Sotomayor’s 2nd Circuit with no Constitutional justification, and in contra-diction to all Supreme Court precedent on Election Law had ignored properly drafted and enacted NY Law. Sotomayor did this because she believed Lopez Torres needed a “Fair Shot” at election. 9 to 0 SupremeCourt ruled that only needed 4 thousand signatures to have Lopez Torres name place on the final election ballot in a Fair Shot under the NY Law. Sotomayor’s Empathy said this is not fair enough because the candidate’s name that was selected at the party convention would still be on the ballot and might WIN. So Sotomayor used affirmative action and was overturned 9 to ZERO. And then lied about her actions in this case to the Senate Judicial Committee Senator Schumer continued at about 01:57:28, “And has there ever been a case in which you ruled in favor of a litigant simply cause you were sympathetic to their plight even if rule of Law might not have led you in that direction.”
Judge Sotomayor answered Senator Schumer at about 01:57:35 , “Never.”
LINK http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/07/14/HP/A/20823/Senate+Judiciary+Confirmation+Hearing+for+Judge+Sonia+Sotomayor+Day+2.aspx
Do you really want on the Supreme Court a judge that feels entitled to lie under OATH to get the affirmative action she wants from the Senate!
Comment posted August 3, 2009 @ 5:12 pm
Jackfish: per your comment of 28 July- you need to read DR if you haven’t already.
DR: per your comment of 28 July- thnaks for your comment. I just read this article and some of the comments, and you save me the trouble of responding to Jackfish. Unless there was more in the comments section further on, his/her comment sounded like a typical case of twisting around what was actually said. Perhaps a typical repub?
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 2:08 am
HKgovt, you’ve been shopping that around the internet for a while now. Gettin’ any traction?
Didn’t think so.
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