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	<title>Comments on: Ninety-five Lutherans come out during ELCA vote on gay pastors</title>
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		<title>By: gbear</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bible is not the word of God. The bible is a collection of writings by men describing their concept of God. Neither God nor Jesus wrote a single word contained in the bible. It&#039;s all stories written by mortal men. Some of the stories and concepts are very good (do unto others as you would have done unto yourself), but God has as much to do with writing the bible as he did with the writing of Aesop&#039;s Fables.

The bible should not be used as a basis for people to pass judgment on one another. 

Anyone who thinks that God gives them permission to condemn others is full of fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bible is not the word of God. The bible is a collection of writings by men describing their concept of God. Neither God nor Jesus wrote a single word contained in the bible. It&#8217;s all stories written by mortal men. Some of the stories and concepts are very good (do unto others as you would have done unto yourself), but God has as much to do with writing the bible as he did with the writing of Aesop&#8217;s Fables.</p>
<p>The bible should not be used as a basis for people to pass judgment on one another. </p>
<p>Anyone who thinks that God gives them permission to condemn others is full of fail.</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tim,
bottom line (no pun intended) , we are all sinners. name one church who thought it was ok to commit adultery, to be addicted, or over weight? the church says those things are wrong yet come and ask for forgiveness let us  help you over come so you can get closer to God.  the church is now saying, not only will we accept homosexuals -as they should like other sinners- but it is not a sin and continue your behavior. any one who thinks God putt your male pastor on this earth to have sex with another male is not only theologically misguided but your one sick puppy. 

p.s. the good thing is the least of my worries is getting swine flu at church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tim,<br />
bottom line (no pun intended) , we are all sinners. name one church who thought it was ok to commit adultery, to be addicted, or over weight? the church says those things are wrong yet come and ask for forgiveness let us  help you over come so you can get closer to God.  the church is now saying, not only will we accept homosexuals -as they should like other sinners- but it is not a sin and continue your behavior. any one who thinks God putt your male pastor on this earth to have sex with another male is not only theologically misguided but your one sick puppy. </p>
<p>p.s. the good thing is the least of my worries is getting swine flu at church.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version) Thou SHALT NOT lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is ABOMINATION.

Romans 1:27 (King James Version) And likewise also THE MEN, LEAVING THE NATURAL USE OF THE WOMAN, BURNED IN THEIR LUST ONE TOWARD ANOTHER; MEN WITH MEN WORKING THAT WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Timothy 1:9-10 (King James Version) Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, FOR THEM THAT DEFILE THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine...

Pretty plain Scripture, in my opinion.  No worse than any other sin, but one must:
Seek forgiveness by repenting -&gt; turn from sin -&gt; receive forgiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version) Thou SHALT NOT lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is ABOMINATION.</p>
<p>Romans 1:27 (King James Version) And likewise also THE MEN, LEAVING THE NATURAL USE OF THE WOMAN, BURNED IN THEIR LUST ONE TOWARD ANOTHER; MEN WITH MEN WORKING THAT WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.</p>
<p>1 Timothy 1:9-10 (King James Version) Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, FOR THEM THAT DEFILE THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine&#8230;</p>
<p>Pretty plain Scripture, in my opinion.  No worse than any other sin, but one must:<br />
Seek forgiveness by repenting -&gt; turn from sin -&gt; receive forgiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is clear which master ELCA is serving.&quot;

Kinda reminds me of Mac Hammond &amp; Living Word.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is clear which master ELCA is serving.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kinda reminds me of Mac Hammond &amp; Living Word&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew 6:24
&quot;No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.&quot;

It is clear which master ELCA is serving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew 6:24<br />
&#8220;No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is clear which master ELCA is serving.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goose and John,

Still waiting for an explanation:

Jesus says in Matthew that divorce and remarriage is adultery.  Yet your church allows people who have divorced and remarried,  some multiple times, to happily be in the congregation.  

But I won&#039;t get an explanation from either of you.  Just another dismissive put-down from pick &amp; choose Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goose and John,</p>
<p>Still waiting for an explanation:</p>
<p>Jesus says in Matthew that divorce and remarriage is adultery.  Yet your church allows people who have divorced and remarried,  some multiple times, to happily be in the congregation.  </p>
<p>But I won&#8217;t get an explanation from either of you.  Just another dismissive put-down from pick &amp; choose Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Bjorn14!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Bjorn14!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bjørn14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bjørn14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Romans 1:27 is pretty clear about what God thinks of homosexuality and in  verse 32 about those who condone such behavior.

Such a disingenous quote from Zilllart and Frost about their daughter deciding what church she would belong to based on the welcome gay people receive....what about being fed by the Gospel of Jesus Christ not some feel-good social club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Romans 1:27 is pretty clear about what God thinks of homosexuality and in  verse 32 about those who condone such behavior.</p>
<p>Such a disingenous quote from Zilllart and Frost about their daughter deciding what church she would belong to based on the welcome gay people receive&#8230;.what about being fed by the Gospel of Jesus Christ not some feel-good social club.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 06:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 Timothy 4: 1-4

 1In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 Timothy 4: 1-4</p>
<p> 1In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jesus said much more about hypocrites than homosexuals.&quot;

Funny thing, then, that being a hypocrite is so prevalent among Kristians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jesus said much more about hypocrites than homosexuals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny thing, then, that being a hypocrite is so prevalent among Kristians.</p>
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