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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/45854/tom-emmer-democrats-not-freedom-loving-americans/comment-page-1#comment-40909</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democracy  is ; Three weasles and a mouse voting on, whats for supper. Democracy is the direct opposite of freedom, it is mob rule.  You brainwashed sheep must wake-up. Please understand the  &quot;Individual&quot; ,  is of supreme importance , and the thing that historically protected Each  American ,  was the now trampled on Constitution.   The Constitution , if followed  will protect all who Truly love Freedom .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democracy  is ; Three weasles and a mouse voting on, whats for supper. Democracy is the direct opposite of freedom, it is mob rule.  You brainwashed sheep must wake-up. Please understand the  &#8220;Individual&#8221; ,  is of supreme importance , and the thing that historically protected Each  American ,  was the now trampled on Constitution.   The Constitution , if followed  will protect all who Truly love Freedom .</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/45854/tom-emmer-democrats-not-freedom-loving-americans/comment-page-1#comment-40218</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

Thanks for the humor, you could be another Stephen Colbert.  By masquerading as a conservative and spouting simplistic talking points, you show through humor how foolish the typical conservative rant can be.  Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>Thanks for the humor, you could be another Stephen Colbert.  By masquerading as a conservative and spouting simplistic talking points, you show through humor how foolish the typical conservative rant can be.  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your arguements are as dissapointing as they are illogical.&quot;   Illogical...sort of like almost all of your 9:57 post.

Mostly you confuse &quot;more government&quot; with using government to fix malignant failures and abuses of private enterprise, and that it somehow would means less freedom for you, personally.  Are you still mad about that whole paying workers for overtime thing?  You lost a lot of liberty back then...

Maybe you should start stockpiling those nice, bright 150w incandescent light bulbs, you&#039;re completely justified in worrying about your light bulb liberties.  And be careful what you post on websites - they are watching....

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Thanks, George, for the very appropriate links, all necessary reminders of who Emmers is, and what he stands for.  In any given election, someone like him can always count on the same 30%.   I&#039;ll bet he has a lot of friends on the other side of the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your arguements are as dissapointing as they are illogical.&#8221;   Illogical&#8230;sort of like almost all of your 9:57 post.</p>
<p>Mostly you confuse &#8220;more government&#8221; with using government to fix malignant failures and abuses of private enterprise, and that it somehow would means less freedom for you, personally.  Are you still mad about that whole paying workers for overtime thing?  You lost a lot of liberty back then&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe you should start stockpiling those nice, bright 150w incandescent light bulbs, you&#8217;re completely justified in worrying about your light bulb liberties.  And be careful what you post on websites &#8211; they are watching&#8230;.</p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Thanks, George, for the very appropriate links, all necessary reminders of who Emmers is, and what he stands for.  In any given election, someone like him can always count on the same 30%.   I&#8217;ll bet he has a lot of friends on the other side of the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger - 

We end up with public figures - elected officials who are supposed to represent all of us saying
“I don’t think you can call yourself a freedom-loving American and be a Democrat,” 

No, Thank You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger &#8211; </p>
<p>We end up with public figures &#8211; elected officials who are supposed to represent all of us saying<br />
“I don’t think you can call yourself a freedom-loving American and be a Democrat,” </p>
<p>No, Thank You.</p>
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		<title>By: ROGER CHAMBERLAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROGER CHAMBERLAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

Tom Emmers aside, I have no dog in that fight. Your arguements are as dissapointing as they are illogical. You stoop to name calling for those who disagree with you - where does that leave us?

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>Tom Emmers aside, I have no dog in that fight. Your arguements are as dissapointing as they are illogical. You stoop to name calling for those who disagree with you &#8211; where does that leave us?</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same Tom Emmer who believes the Earth is 6,000 years old:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e9XeKVJ2PI

The same Tom Emmer who refers to climate change as &quot;Al Gore&#039;s climate porn&quot;:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9y_jc0sN4

The same Tom Emmer who would rather talk about porn than pork:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIPZg_-Jtgw

As for your question, Thomas: do they always have to try appeal to the stupid, the least informed, the lowest common denominator? 

Yes, because that&#039;s who exactly who votes for inbred asshats like Tom Emmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same Tom Emmer who believes the Earth is 6,000 years old:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e9XeKVJ2PI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e9XeKVJ2PI</a></p>
<p>The same Tom Emmer who refers to climate change as &#8220;Al Gore&#8217;s climate porn&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9y_jc0sN4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9y_jc0sN4</a></p>
<p>The same Tom Emmer who would rather talk about porn than pork:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIPZg_-Jtgw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIPZg_-Jtgw</a></p>
<p>As for your question, Thomas: do they always have to try appeal to the stupid, the least informed, the lowest common denominator? </p>
<p>Yes, because that&#8217;s who exactly who votes for inbred asshats like Tom Emmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would this be the same Tom Emmer that said we can&#039;t trust doctors and patients to make appropriate decisions in end-of-life situations?  The same Tom Emmer that said government -- not doctors -- should decide whether chronic and terminally ill patients can use marijuana to relieve pain and suffering?  Tom seems confused.  Big government is bad, except when he decides that big government should deny citizens the power to make decisions over their own life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would this be the same Tom Emmer that said we can&#8217;t trust doctors and patients to make appropriate decisions in end-of-life situations?  The same Tom Emmer that said government &#8212; not doctors &#8212; should decide whether chronic and terminally ill patients can use marijuana to relieve pain and suffering?  Tom seems confused.  Big government is bad, except when he decides that big government should deny citizens the power to make decisions over their own life.</p>
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		<title>By: ROGER CHAMBERLAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROGER CHAMBERLAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to presume to know exactly what Mr. Emmers was thinking or trying to say, but it&#039;s very probable he failed to properly articulate his point. The quintessential American value is respect for the dignity of the indiviudual - individual liberty.

I&#039;ve been curious though, how liberals reconcile their desires for liberty with their continued cries for more government. Liberals are staunch defenders of the first amendment, abortion (government hands off my body and out of the bedroom), their general hysteria regarding the patriot act, etc. 

Yet the liberal democrat supports speech codes and draconian campaign finance laws; liberal democrats are constantly assualting religous freedom (almost exclusively Christians). Most recently many liberals have denounced the opponents of HR 3200 for showing up at townhalls and expressing their opinions to their elected representatives. No doubt many liberal democrats would like to see the &quot;fairness&quot; doctrine reinstated. Liberal democrats generally support the some form of government run healthcare and &quot;cap and trade&quot; legislation. Liberals may even support politicians telling us what light bulbs to buy. 

My brother and I have had converstaions with some of you who unwittingly complain about high taxes and the smoking ban in bars. Ironically both are resrictions on liberity and the result of overreaching government supported mainly by liberal democrats. 

All of this increases the power and reach of government thereby decresaing your liberty. With each new tax and piece of legislation, we surrender more of our freedom, liberty and dignty over to politicians. So, how do all of you reconcile these competing philosophies? Or do you simply accept a permanent state of cognitive dissoance?

So, either you believe in the inherent dignity and liberity of people as granted to us by God and allow them to make decisions for themselve, or you believe most people are no more than cattle to be led by the nose, to be treated as children.

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to presume to know exactly what Mr. Emmers was thinking or trying to say, but it&#8217;s very probable he failed to properly articulate his point. The quintessential American value is respect for the dignity of the indiviudual &#8211; individual liberty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been curious though, how liberals reconcile their desires for liberty with their continued cries for more government. Liberals are staunch defenders of the first amendment, abortion (government hands off my body and out of the bedroom), their general hysteria regarding the patriot act, etc. </p>
<p>Yet the liberal democrat supports speech codes and draconian campaign finance laws; liberal democrats are constantly assualting religous freedom (almost exclusively Christians). Most recently many liberals have denounced the opponents of HR 3200 for showing up at townhalls and expressing their opinions to their elected representatives. No doubt many liberal democrats would like to see the &#8220;fairness&#8221; doctrine reinstated. Liberal democrats generally support the some form of government run healthcare and &#8220;cap and trade&#8221; legislation. Liberals may even support politicians telling us what light bulbs to buy. </p>
<p>My brother and I have had converstaions with some of you who unwittingly complain about high taxes and the smoking ban in bars. Ironically both are resrictions on liberity and the result of overreaching government supported mainly by liberal democrats. </p>
<p>All of this increases the power and reach of government thereby decresaing your liberty. With each new tax and piece of legislation, we surrender more of our freedom, liberty and dignty over to politicians. So, how do all of you reconcile these competing philosophies? Or do you simply accept a permanent state of cognitive dissoance?</p>
<p>So, either you believe in the inherent dignity and liberity of people as granted to us by God and allow them to make decisions for themselve, or you believe most people are no more than cattle to be led by the nose, to be treated as children.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Rmath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rmath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;freedom-loving&quot; republican that Emmer is talking about is one who loves to evade paying their fair share of taxes, loves the art of the Big Lie in politics, loves to see the gap between the wealthy and the middle class grow ever wider, and one who loves to wrap himself in the false cloak of patriotism in a desperate effort to appear morally superior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;freedom-loving&#8221; republican that Emmer is talking about is one who loves to evade paying their fair share of taxes, loves the art of the Big Lie in politics, loves to see the gap between the wealthy and the middle class grow ever wider, and one who loves to wrap himself in the false cloak of patriotism in a desperate effort to appear morally superior.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt he really believes it,  but he&#039;s running for a  nomination.   It&#039;s really to bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt he really believes it,  but he&#8217;s running for a  nomination.   It&#8217;s really to bad.</p>
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