Comments on: McCollum: Sick and tired of bipartisanship talk on health care bill http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill News. Politics. Media. Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:48:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Tyranny http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40858 Tyranny Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:43:44 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40858 Do You Think Our Senators really care about “affordable,” health care for the average American? Neither Al or Amy has either signed on to S. 604, the senate version of H.R. 1207, that has at least 289 co sponsors. What exactly does “affordable” health care mean? More socialism will only bring more tyranny. What does Employer responsibility mean? Does that mean Budgeting properly and not relying on big brother handouts so the state and federal government can tell them what to do. Does that mean not lying to their employees? Or expanding the size and look of the buildings while laying them off and trying to get rid of any pension. Wake up people the “Public option” Is another term for totalatarian tip toe incrementelisim so that big brother can micromanage every aspect of our lives. The social engineers that brought us medicare are going to bring us a public option that eventually everyone but the so called elite will be forced into. Has anyone seen the stock in verichip lately? Vote yes for real reform. Does anyone know what that means? Real reform means Read The Constitution! Where is health care a right in the constitution? Or maybe you want to live under agenda 21 U.N. Dictatorship? Turn off the TV and read! Tell the congress that we demand health freedom. Tell Them that we demand you read any bill. Tell them that we the people demand time to read and understand any bill. Understand what an individual mandate is. Say No! No last minute additions. No threats of martial law or a breakdown of society. You people that think you have power, don’t you understand that you will be forced to accept the poison too. Please break your conditioning, or maybe you get off on it! You might have a few more toys a few more vacations with a few more drinks to dull your depression of the false reality that you have created. In the meantime your grandchildren will be born with more health problems. Your loved ones will see more and more early onset alzheimers and a breakthrough will be right around the corner with a new implant. Do you know that “herd immunity” is really only pseudoscience? Or maybe you like being treated as cattle. 100% is the goal. Where is the real evidence? It’s hidden in scientific doublespeak. This is herd mentality. Look up^ Look Around We are in a petri dish! Do you know what a “mock up” virus is? MF 59? Aso3? Squalene? GWS? GBS? Read! Investigate! Chan says swine flu is mild, yet Freiden says, “on average flu is not a mild illness.” As Public Enemy would say, “Don’t Believe the Hype!” Prof Griff knows whats going on! Peace! Good, Love& Liberty will prevail! (Tyranny) Do You Think Our Senators really care about “affordable,” health care for the average American? Neither Al or Amy has either signed on to S. 604, the senate version of H.R. 1207, that has at least 289 co sponsors. What exactly does “affordable” health care mean? More socialism will only bring more tyranny. What does Employer responsibility mean? Does that mean Budgeting properly and not relying on big brother handouts so the state and federal government can tell them what to do. Does that mean not lying to their employees? Or expanding the size and look of the buildings while laying them off and trying to get rid of any pension. Wake up people the “Public option” Is another term for totalatarian tip toe incrementelisim so that big brother can micromanage every aspect of our lives. The social engineers that brought us medicare are going to bring us a public option that eventually everyone but the so called elite will be forced into. Has anyone seen the stock in verichip lately? Vote yes for real reform. Does anyone know what that means? Real reform means Read The Constitution! Where is health care a right in the constitution? Or maybe you want to live under agenda 21 U.N. Dictatorship? Turn off the TV and read! Tell the congress that we demand health freedom. Tell Them that we demand you read any bill. Tell them that we the people demand time to read and understand any bill. Understand what an individual mandate is. Say No! No last minute additions. No threats of martial law or a breakdown of society. You people that think you have power, don’t you understand that you will be forced to accept the poison too. Please break your conditioning, or maybe you get off on it! You might have a few more toys a few more vacations with a few more drinks to dull your depression of the false reality that you have created. In the meantime your grandchildren will be born with more health problems. Your loved ones will see more and more early onset alzheimers and a breakthrough will be right around the corner with a new implant. Do you know that “herd immunity” is really only pseudoscience? Or maybe you like being treated as cattle. 100% is the goal. Where is the real evidence? It’s hidden in scientific doublespeak. This is herd mentality. Look up^ Look Around We are in a petri dish! Do you know what a “mock up” virus is? MF 59? Aso3? Squalene? GWS? GBS? Read! Investigate! Chan says swine flu is mild, yet Freiden says, “on average flu is not a mild illness.” As Public Enemy would say, “Don’t Believe the Hype!” Prof Griff knows whats going on! Peace! Good, Love& Liberty will prevail! (Tyranny)

]]> By: markmwhite http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40816 markmwhite Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:11:08 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40816 Dave, If you knew anything about bankruptcy law you would know that the unions and the their pension funds essentially cut in line and got more in bankruptcy than they deserved - at least based upon the entire history of bankruptcy law. Bondholders, yes investors, had a superior claim on the bankruptcy estate yet got proportionally less that the politically favored subordinate claims of the unions. These bondholders that your violins sarcastically weep for are US citizens, voters and taxpayers who deserve equal and fair protection under the law. Whether anyone lost (or saved) jobs is not relevant and is certainly not the goal of any bankruptcy action. Do you suppose that unions have little or no influence on the Dems and White House, or do you think that power equation is about right? The Unions and their pension funds are the largest equity holders and combined with the governments share possess a majority. Are you suggesting that the making of profit is by definition screwing someone. the market is full of choices and no one is forcing you to make bad choices - only governement has that power. Now if someone is in fact getting screwed (fraud, theft, etc.) we have laws and courts for that. Would you prefer that profits be outlawed? Dave,

If you knew anything about bankruptcy law you would know that the unions and the their pension funds essentially cut in line and got more in bankruptcy than they deserved – at least based upon the entire history of bankruptcy law. Bondholders, yes investors, had a superior claim on the bankruptcy estate yet got proportionally less that the politically favored subordinate claims of the unions. These bondholders that your violins sarcastically weep for are US citizens, voters and taxpayers who deserve equal and fair protection under the law. Whether anyone lost (or saved) jobs is not relevant and is certainly not the goal of any bankruptcy action.

Do you suppose that unions have little or no influence on the Dems and White House, or do you think that power equation is about right?

The Unions and their pension funds are the largest equity holders and combined with the governments share possess a majority.

Are you suggesting that the making of profit is by definition screwing someone. the market is full of choices and no one is forcing you to make bad choices – only governement has that power. Now if someone is in fact getting screwed (fraud, theft, etc.) we have laws and courts for that. Would you prefer that profits be outlawed?

]]> By: Dave http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40711 Dave Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:53:16 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40711 The White House is being managed by organized labor. ....proof, please. Sounds like a pretty paranoid statement, considering card check hasn't gone anywhere yet. Organized labor owns GM and Chrysler. ...owns a minority share in is not the same as owns outright. get real. UAW which got a sweetheart deal ...why, because some investors didn't get theirs first? Are any of them out of a job because of it? Nope. Violins are playing... Speaking of paranoid crap, you are so right. The system we have right now is perfect. It's the American way, making a profit by screwing people. The White House is being managed by organized labor.
….proof, please. Sounds like a pretty paranoid statement, considering card check hasn’t gone anywhere yet.

Organized labor owns GM and Chrysler.
…owns a minority share in is not the same as owns outright. get real.

UAW which got a sweetheart deal
…why, because some investors didn’t get theirs first? Are any of them out of a job because of it? Nope. Violins are playing…

Speaking of paranoid crap, you are so right. The system we have right now is perfect. It’s the American way, making a profit by screwing people.

]]> By: markmwhite http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40644 markmwhite Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:44:44 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40644 Dave, Just the reverse. The White House is being managed by organized labor. Organized labor owns GM and Chrysler. GM and Chrysler are owned by the UAW which got a sweetheart deal that was orchestrated by the White House and Dem Congress. Speaking of paranoid crap, how about McCollum's assertion about the motivations of those opposed to the public option, I quote " that’s just a plan for less health care for people in need and more profits for corporations driven by greed." Only the paranoid believe that, really. What a wonderful representative we have. Dave,

Just the reverse. The White House is being managed by organized labor. Organized labor owns GM and Chrysler. GM and Chrysler are owned by the UAW which got a sweetheart deal that was orchestrated by the White House and Dem Congress.

Speaking of paranoid crap, how about McCollum’s assertion about the motivations of those opposed to the public option, I quote ” that’s just a plan for less health care for people in need and more profits for corporations driven by greed.” Only the paranoid believe that, really.

What a wonderful representative we have.

]]> By: Dave http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40620 Dave Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:56:17 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40620 I didn't know GM and Chrysler were being managed by the government... I didn’t know GM and Chrysler were being managed by the government…

]]> By: Dave http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40619 Dave Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:52:08 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40619 The text of the speech is long enough that a thinking, honest, intelligent person would be able to find something to disagree with Representative McCollum without making up paranoid crap. The text of the speech is long enough that a thinking, honest, intelligent person would be able to find something to disagree with Representative McCollum without making up paranoid crap.

]]> By: Colin http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40618 Colin Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:44:09 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40618 In response to Residual Forces, I think you'll find most Americans are sick and tired of bipartisanship, as well. The bills in their current form are a product of those attempts at satisfying far too many groups which don't deserve to be controlling the debate. A classic example is one provision that even vitamins need to be bought from a pharmacy. Industry deserves a voice in Congress, but not a pen. In response to Residual Forces, I think you’ll find most Americans are sick and tired of bipartisanship, as well. The bills in their current form are a product of those attempts at satisfying far too many groups which don’t deserve to be controlling the debate. A classic example is one provision that even vitamins need to be bought from a pharmacy. Industry deserves a voice in Congress, but not a pen.

]]> By: T-Paw Is A Jerk http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40610 T-Paw Is A Jerk Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:09:18 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40610 Dear Betty, Please hold your groung. Do not fall victim to the lies and smear tactics of those Republi-thugs. They simply want to make more money off the backs of the poor and sickly. Health care will be a right afforded to us by the Democrat Party and Mr. Obama. The Republi-thugs only want to keep the poor people down and not let us have what is rightfully ours. Long live Barack Obama, and long live the people! Ms. McCollum, Thanks for supporting all of us little people so we can get what we deserve. Dear Betty,

Please hold your groung. Do not fall victim to the lies and smear tactics of those Republi-thugs. They simply want to make more money off the backs of the poor and sickly.

Health care will be a right afforded to us by the Democrat Party and Mr. Obama. The Republi-thugs only want to keep the poor people down and not let us have what is rightfully ours.

Long live Barack Obama, and long live the people!

Ms. McCollum, Thanks for supporting all of us little people so we can get what we deserve.

]]> By: Residual Forces » Blog Archive » McCullom = Unpartisan http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40599 Residual Forces » Blog Archive » McCullom = Unpartisan Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:20:11 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40599 [...] I guess she feels safe to speak the mind of most Washington Democrats.  McCollum: Sick and tired of bipartisanship talk on health care bill [...] [...] I guess she feels safe to speak the mind of most Washington Democrats.  McCollum: Sick and tired of bipartisanship talk on health care bill [...]

]]> By: markmwhite http://minnesotaindependent.com/46403/mccollum-sick-and-tired-of-bipartisanship-talk-on-health-care-bill/comment-page-1#comment-40598 markmwhite Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:30:28 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=46403#comment-40598 By extension, it seems my representative is saying i'm fighting for CEOs and profiteers and that only if I agree with her and the other progressive sycophants can I achieve bipartisanship. And I suppose too that if I disagree with her approach to better the nation that I am some form of evil, along with her Republican legislator counterparts and decent hard-working professionals in the healthcare industry. What a wonderful thing. The things she says she is for: expanded access, cost control, competition, and improved health will not be achieved with a public option, but would be achieved with market-based reforms. It's confounding to me that the same narrow-minded, tunnel-vision lemmings that follow the progressive standard bearers when they fight for liberty at the expense of our efforts to fight our terrorist enemies are the first to surrender that liberty for the sake of government takeovers of our healthcare, car makers, and banks. A little intellectual courage and consistency would be refreshing and quite noticeable if any of our politicians had the fortitude. I also need McCollum to educate me on how exactly, and by what justification, that healthcare is now a right. By extension, it seems my representative is saying i’m fighting for CEOs and profiteers and that only if I agree with her and the other progressive sycophants can I achieve bipartisanship. And I suppose too that if I disagree with her approach to better the nation that I am some form of evil, along with her Republican legislator counterparts and decent hard-working professionals in the healthcare industry. What a wonderful thing. The things she says she is for: expanded access, cost control, competition, and improved health will not be achieved with a public option, but would be achieved with market-based reforms.

It’s confounding to me that the same narrow-minded, tunnel-vision lemmings that follow the progressive standard bearers when they fight for liberty at the expense of our efforts to fight our terrorist enemies are the first to surrender that liberty for the sake of government takeovers of our healthcare, car makers, and banks. A little intellectual courage and consistency would be refreshing and quite noticeable if any of our politicians had the fortitude.

I also need McCollum to educate me on how exactly, and by what justification, that healthcare is now a right.

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