Back in fall 2006, before Glenn Beck was the household name he is today, he tried out a rhetorical tactic he’s now known for. He famously asked Rep. Keith Ellison, because the freshman legislator is Muslim, to “prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.” Critics of Beck have commemorated the Fox host’s propensity for challenging those he opposes to prove a negative (”prove you didn’t do _____”) in a satirical website, “Did Glenn Beck Kill and Rape a Young Girl in 1990?” Now, in a case that revisits the Ellison story, Beck is appealing to the international body that assigns internet domain names to shut the site down.
As Ed Brayton (who writes for our sister site in Michigan) reports on his blog, Beck lodged a complaint (pdf) with the World Intellectual Property Organization charging that the satirical site’s domain name should be canceled because it is “plainly libelous, patently false, not authorized by Mercury or Beck, and is likely to cause confusion for consumers.”
But Brayton asks:
“Why would he do that rather than file, say, a libel suit? Because he knows he would lose a libel suit. He is a public figure and the site is clearly satirical. …[I]t is virtually impossible to win such a suit.”
In his response to the complaint (pdf), Marc Randazza, the attorney representing site owner Isaac Eiland-Hall, states that the WIPO’s Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy isn’t to be used for defamation cases and that the site is clearly political satire, can’t be confused as an official Beck site and seeks no profit from its communication. Further, he gives the lineage of the site’s premise:
The meme is a parody of from [sic] Glenn Beck’s own argumentation style mated with a Gilbert Gottfried routine performed during the Comedy Central Roast of “comedian” Bob Saget. During Gottfried’s speech, he kept repeating (in his trademark nasally voice) that there were rumors that Bob Saget had raped and killed a girl in 1990…
…The humor equation is simple: (Outrageous Accusation) + (Celebrity) + (Question Why the Celebrity Does Not Deny the Accusation) = (Confirmation of the Falsity of the Accusation + Laughter)
Then, the attorney references Beck’s Ellison interview, concluding, “Quite simply, Beck’s shtick is simply a cheap imitation of Gilbert Gottfried, sans the humor.”
Randazza’s response brief is entertainingly written, contextualizing the site as being akin to internet memes like “Mr. Spock Ate My Balls” and “ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US,” and challenging Beck’s assertion that the satirical site’s name might confuse Beck fans:
We are not here because the domain name could cause confusion. We do not have a declaration from the president of the international association of imbeciles that his members are blankly staring at the Respondent’s website wondering “where did all the race baiting content go?” We are here because Mr. Beck wants Respondent’s website shut down. He wants it shut down because Respondent’s website makes a poignant and accurate satirical critique of Mr. Beck by parodying Beck’s very rhetorical style. Beck’s skin is too thin to take the criticism, so he wants the site down. Beck is represented by a learned and respected legal team. Accordingly, it is beyond doubt that his counsel advised him that under the First Amendment to the United States’ Constitution, no action in a U.S. Court would be successful. See, e.g., Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988). Accordingly, Beck is attempting to use this transnational body to circumvent and subvert the Respondent’s constitutional rights.














43 Comments »
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 12:39 pm
Thanks for the great article. I only have one minor nitpick: I’m the site owner, Isaac Eiland-Hall. My attourney is Marc Randazza. He’s the brilliant one, not me.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 12:42 pm
Thanks, Isaac. I corrected the piece to reflect as much.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 12:43 pm
Just as a note- Eiland-Hall is the defendant, the person who registered the domain name and set up the site. The attorney is Marc Randazza.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 12:47 pm
Yup.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 1:11 pm
Then, the attorney references Beck’s Ellison interview, concluding, “Quite simply, Beck’s shtick is simply a cheap imitation of Gilbert Gottfried, sans the humor.”
*insert lol icon*
I’m still laughing at that one, Thanks!
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 1:29 pm
It is safe to say that Mr. Randazza has a huge set. We’ll just see if all of Glenn Beck’s money will do him any good in this matter. Funny though that Beck has ranted about how international law is destroying our constitution yet he files this case with an international organization. It’s safe to say that Glenn Beck does not have a set.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 1:33 pm
You know what is REALLY funny?? Satire about RAPING and the MURDER of a young girl.
Nice.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
Your second comment’s been deleted, Jon. If you want your comment to appear, please read and abide by our comment policy: http://minnesotaindependent.com/policies
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 2:18 pm
Isaac Eiland-Hall (1st post) wrote,
“He’s the brilliant one, not me.”
Considering the objectionable nature of the website, your statement is quite obviously true. I must honestly wonder what makes you feel comfortable using a horrific crime for satirical purposes?
Have you no shame or consideration of families who lost daughters/children to rape and murder: Polly Klaas, JonBenet Ramsey, Carrie Lawson, Sara Anne Wood, Adam Walsh – to name a few.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
The website is NOT funny. They used what looked like real material (local news sources, etc.). It took ME while before I concluded generally that it was false. But had I not spent the time to look into it thoroughly I would have been left with a very false impression about Beck.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
Jon,
Last I checked, it is still allowed to make jokes that incorporate rape, murder, drowning, surfing, flying, crashing, farting, crapping, and eating… in other words, just because Polly Klaas was raped and murdered does not mean that someone else is then prohibited from REPEATING a joke about rape and murder.
If anything, your beef is with Gilbert Gottfried. Even then, you have no real point.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 3:51 pm
Plate O’Shrimp,
You’re absolutely correct – it is STILL Constitutionally permissive to be a demented crackpot, provided you do no harm to others. However, I believe the right still exists for us who are offended by the demented crackpot to voice our objections.
My comments wasn’t a legal brief suggesting Issac Eiland-Hall had no right to act the fool – simply an objection to the heinous lengths he goes to make his point.
“Glen Beck is an idiot . com”
“Glen Beck is a commie . com”
“Glen Beck is a Zombie . com”
FINE – but interjecting the RAPE and MURDER of a young girl crosses the line of decency and is highly offenses to many who have lost a child in such ways.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 3:53 pm
please excuse the 2 grammatical errors in the prior post. I should have written:
“My comments AREN’T a legal brief”
and
“crosses the line of decency and is highly OFFENSIVE to many…”
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 4:00 pm
Jon –
Asking the elected Congressional representative of people in Michigan to prove that he’s not a Muslim terrorist crosses the line of decency and is highly offensive (there– fixed that for ya) to the many who have lost loved ones to terrorism.
Not to mention that it’s highly offensive to decent-minded Americans everywhere.
How come you’re not expressing outrage about that, hmmm?
Look — hyperbole is a fundamental ingredient in political satire.
Deal with it.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 4:56 pm
Glenn Beck is insane, he admits himself that was an alcoholic. It’s my believe that part of his brain cells was damaged by all the alcohol consumption. I suggest that a petition be circulated to have Glenn Beck committed into a mental hospital for evaluation. Mr. Beck is dangerous to himself and to the rest of society, its the responsibility of every sane person to have him committed and checked.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 5:19 pm
I applaud the subversive creativity of the person who set up the site. May you continue to turn demagoguery on its head for many years to come!
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 5:20 pm
Jon: a minor clarification: Keith Ellison represents the 5th District of MINNESOTA, not Michigan.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 5:54 pm
aj’s point is moot, the thought of raping a girl cannot be compared to the thought of helping muslim extremists – regardless of wether the latter is appropriate or not.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:31 pm
Jon, just so you know, there is no Constitutional Right to Not Be Offended. Certainly, there is no Constitutional Right to Suppress That Which You Personally Find Offensive. Such a Right would contradict two of the Big Three Rights: Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness of those being suppressed, and no proposed Right that would contradict any of the Big Three can exist, despite the “and that AMONG these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” (of the Declaration, which isn’t part of the Constitution and isn’t actually law) in conjunction with the Ninth Amendment.
To all would-be and wanna-be and even actual censors: the above is addressed to you, too.
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:36 pm
cooler opines : “the thought of raping a girl cannot be compared to the thought of helping muslim extremists.”
And why not? Are they not both reprehensible actions? Are both not likely to cause umbrage? Are not both silly lies, placing the burden of proof-of-no-wrongdoing on the “accused”?
Perhaps cooler should read up on the definition of “compare.” Any definition will do, to illuminate the silliness of his objection.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:42 am
Glen Beck’s moral dillema: what about the rape of a young muslim extremist girl?
It’s interesting how the discussion digressed from the main point: Glen Beck doesn’t want people to think he raped and murdered a young girl, and he, of course, isn’t interested in what the satirists (home-grown humor extremist cells) are trying to accomplish.
Basically, he can dish it out, but he’s not spooning it up.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 9:06 am
I’ve got to admit, it seems strange that Glen Beck wouldn’t publicly deny this if he wasn’t guilty. Why won’t he just prove that he is innocent? Because he can’t? If you can’t prove your innocence are you then guilty? These are all disturbing questions, and that is why we must continue to ask the hard questions about the death of this girl. Until Glen comes clean about what he knows. Why is he hiding behind armies of lawyers when he could just come clean?
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 10:41 am
COMALiteJ,
Thank you for explanation of “Constitutional Rights” – although not sure why you’re attempting to explain any of it to me.
Let I-Sac-of-Dung Eiland-Hall face the legal system and spend every last $$ making an obscene statement. I am not a legal authority.
My objection is his crossing the line of decency. My objection is his joking about the RAPE and MURDER of a young girl. He stands on the graves of tortured, murdered children with a smile on his face saying “hee hee isn’t it funny?”
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 10:53 am
aj0010
The problem with you Anti-Beck bloggers is that you REFUSE to look at the REAL story – only pulling whatever bit/piece that feeds your fanatical ideology.
HERE IS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID: (Beck talking DIRECTLY to Keith Ellison)
Beck: ————————————
“OK. No offense, and I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I’ve been to mosques. I really don’t believe that Islam is a religion of evil. I — you know, I think it’s being hijacked, quite frankly.
With that being said, you are a Democrat. You are saying, “Let’s cut and run.” And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, “Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.”
And I know you’re not. I’m not accusing you of being an enemy, but that’s the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way.”
———————————————-
Did you catch the last 2 sentences?? “I KNOW YOU’RE NOT. I’M NOT ACCUSING YOU OF BEING AN ENEMY.”
Beck was giving Ellison the opportunity to address the bias some Americans feel in light of 9/11. Good lord – don’t you think that was the HONORABLE thing to do… talk to Ellison … FACE TO FACE… Man to man… and give Ellison a chance to address such bias?
Beck never satirically called Ellison a terrorist. Beck didn’t create a website named “Keith Ellison is a muslim terrorist wanting to kill innocent Americans”.
Heaven forbid an ounce of intellectual honesty creep into your distorted view.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 11:35 am
One way we can tell that our 1st Amendment free speech rights are robust is if we are irritated by the free speech of our fellow citizens.
I find Beck a borderline incitement to riot sort of broadcaster, but he gets his say so long as Fox wants that craziness on their network. AND he has to face opposition speech, even crude humor(?) about rape and murder.
The cure for offensive free speech is more free speech condemning the offensive expression, not shutting down anybody’s freedom of speech.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 11:38 am
There are just too many eerie coincidences connecting him to the gruesome events in 1990 for him to just stay silent. http://wp.me/sBfFK-beckrape Given all the evidence, it would be wrong of us not to ask that Beck addresses the allegations.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 11:40 am
Jon-in-CA
Beck was using a classic technique of the demagogue – make a wild accusation, then insist the accused prove his/her innocence.
Rep Ellison is a fine, honorable man – a man of Muslim faith as is his right under the 1st Amendment. To suggest that his Muslim belief would make it more likely he will help terrorists attacking his country is nonsense, unless you enjoy false guilt by association.
It’s hard to imagine why you’d try to defend Beck on his nonsense.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 11:55 am
Mill,
You correctly wrote,
“The cure for offensive free speech is more free speech condemning the offensive expression, not shutting down anybody’s freedom of speech.”
HOWEVER – the law does provide remedy for Defamation either through Libel (written word) or Slander (spoken words).
Common law refers to Libel as “defamatory statement that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression; a statement published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt.”
Isaac Eiland-Hall knowingly created a false, malicious website to defame Glenn Beck. Simply calling it “a joke” does not remove legal liability.
Read the case about Gannett Newspaper charged with Libel – awarding $950k to citizen – the newspaper printed the citizen “engaged in sodomy with male donkeys and expressed interest in sex with tall, redheaded me”.)
Unless Isaac Eiland-Hall has any EVIDENCE to support his libelous statement about Glenn Beck, Mr Eiland-Hall should be held liable.
Free Speech is protected. Libel is not.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:00 pm
Nor is libel within the purview of the World Intellectual Property Organization. If Beck’s got a beef, he should take it up in American courts.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
Mill,
You wrote,
“Rep Ellison is a fine, honorable man – a man of Muslim faith as is his right under the 1st Amendment. To suggest that his Muslim belief would make it more likely he will help terrorists attacking his country is nonsense, unless you enjoy false guilt by association.”
Mill – can you READ?
Did you take the time to READ the actual conversation??
Did you notice where Glenn Beck said “I know you’re not. I’m not accusing you of being an enemy…”??
Beck was sharing his FEARS with Keith Ellison – allowing Ellison the opportunity to respond.
Strange you condemn Beck for having an honest discussion – face to face with his guest… but you support a website suggesting Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl??
Get some perspective, dude.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:09 pm
Paul Schmelzer,
Are you suggesting Beck is outside his rights to request redress through the WIPO? (Let me help you… NO)
And does filing suit with WIPO stop Beck from filing a Libel claim later against Mr Eiland-Hall? (Let me help you… NO)
Mr Eiland-Hall chose to exercise what HE preceived to be his “legal right” of free speech in an attempt to defame Glenn Beck. NOW Glenn Beck will exercise HIS rights to seek restitution.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:11 pm
Jon-In-CA – can you READ?
Did you take the time to READ the actual website?
Did you notice where I said, “We’re not accusing Glenn Beck of raping and murdering a young girl in 1990 – in fact, we think he didn’t”??
I was sharing a RUMOUR with everyone – allowing Beck the opportunity to respond.
Strange you condemn me for having an honest discussion – open to the entire world… but you support a TV commentator suggesting that Obama is racist??
Get some perspective, dude.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:12 pm
Also, to the rest of you who don’t seem to get it: Quick quiz: How many places on the website does it clearly indicate it’s a parody?
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:14 pm
2sayf,
Actually – I hope bloggers like you continue posting such remarks. Every post, every comment is another nail in the coffin of Mr Eiland-hall’s claim of innocuous satire.
More and more people repeating the false allegation against Glenn Beck only strengthens his claim of defamation.
Keep it up!!
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:15 pm
Beck can do whatever he wants, but if it’s defamation or libel he’s charging, he went to the wrong body.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:18 pm
Mr Eiland-Hall (Name Withheld),
Soon, under oath, you will have to disclose where exactly you gathered this unfounded “rumour”. I suspect you simply made up the heinous rumor to “make a point”.
So – was it a “rumour” or “humor”. Either way I suspect it won’t be a good outcome for you.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:40 pm
Mr. Jon-In-CA,
If you’d bothered to read the website, you would have seen the link that goes exactly to the origin.
I appreciate your passion on this issue. I’m afraid it probably stems from completely missing the point, but I still appreciate it.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:55 pm
Paul Schmelzer,
I think Glenn Beck and his legal council understand the WIPO does not settle libel claims.
If a newspaper made a reckless claim about ME – I would 1) contact the newspaper to address the issue, 2) contact my attorney for council, and 3) likely file a libel suit.
The WIPO is simply one avenue Glenn Beck can pursue in the big picture of addressing his greivences.
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 3:03 pm
Name Withheld, (Mr Eiland-Hall?),
If I understand correctly your website was titled:
glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com
This is a declaritive statement without an indication of uncertainty. You suggest it was a “vicious rumour”.
Tell us all – where exactly did you hear this rumour originally and what evidence did you find warranting your perpetuating the claim?
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 8:25 pm
dude you don’t get it and it’s kind of hilarious. the guy merged two meme’s that are already known. if you read the site you would know he doesn’t think that beck is a rapist, but i think based on how this tactic has worked, it’s quite obvious why people believe things they hear when it isn’t backed with facts. people are quick to believe anything and stand behind anything like many people who watch one of the proponents of this same type of method, except that when beck does it, he goes unchallenged. i’m glad this guy did this because as a general tv watcher i have come over his show on fox and noticed that he throughs out these baseless statements and likes to use the double negative or the double double negative. i don’t know where he was educated where he learned this was okay but i can’t use this in an english paper whereas i can definately argue for the sake of arguing in a philosophy paper. glen beck is in a respected/used to be respected position and he has a lot of power because people look to him to get information and when someone does what he does which is hint at, imply something, say something and then leave it in the ether but then come back and say that’s not what i meant, i wasn’t saying that, i don’t feel that way, are you disagreeing with my statement, etc…he is just playing a smart game and lots of people who don’t use their brains are falling for it and being fooled. i’m not talking about this current american president and his term at all. glenn beck has been doing this before fox. it’s something he must notice he does because it is a style.method. if you say something and you mean it then just state it instead of posing it in a question format because you want to come out the winner and slip the rug from underneath someone. i mean it’s not a good interview style unless you are a gotcha type of person and it’s not good for debates. he’s done a lot of disservice to his profession. it’s kinda sad to observe.
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 10:20 am
I’m glad that everyone is arguing the finer points of law and language, but I just can’t get past the possible rape and murder of a young girl being the real issue here, and why do some people think Glenn Beck could be a suspect? And why doesn’t Glenn deny this, turn over his calendar for 1990, and put this issue to rest? Or at least Glenn could offer a huge reward for the conviction of the real killer if Glenn didn’t do it, which he probably didn’t do it but then why is he hiding behind lawyers? Some people say that not denying is admitting, I don’t know if that is true or is not not true or is not not not true. But do we just walk away when a young girl may have been raped and murdered?
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 7:00 am
“and challenging Beck’s assertion that the satirical site’s name might confuse Beck fans:”
I’ve got to agree with beck on this one it would confuse his fans.
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 2:05 pm
For more interesting reading on this subject, look up Hustler Magazine v. Jerry Falwell, Supreme Court of the US (I forget the date). This pretty much outlines why the site is safe from Beck’s bullshiattery.
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