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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;You Can Run&#8217; may be running afoul of the Constitution</title>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-67837</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read the Constitution, still can&#039;t find separation of church and state in there, can any of you show me exactly what part of the Constitution it says it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the Constitution, still can&#8217;t find separation of church and state in there, can any of you show me exactly what part of the Constitution it says it?</p>
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		<title>By: whittard</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-45181</link>
		<dc:creator>whittard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s easy to see that while you can run rants about constitutional rights, they wish for our government to trample on the rights of those who are not like them... a list that includes Christians outside of their sect.

if my only option is to follow the teachings of you can run, then freedom will certainly have been destroyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s easy to see that while you can run rants about constitutional rights, they wish for our government to trample on the rights of those who are not like them&#8230; a list that includes Christians outside of their sect.</p>
<p>if my only option is to follow the teachings of you can run, then freedom will certainly have been destroyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-43117</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I would like to make one correction. Not all of you people are ignorant. Chris, I overlooked your comment, I should have looked more closely. You are correct in what you say. You mention Jefferson and the Danbury Baptists. You have a correct understanding of American History. Good work my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I would like to make one correction. Not all of you people are ignorant. Chris, I overlooked your comment, I should have looked more closely. You are correct in what you say. You mention Jefferson and the Danbury Baptists. You have a correct understanding of American History. Good work my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-43116</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are all ignorant. You have all been brainwashed with secular, revisionist history. Our nation was founded on the principles of Christianity, whether you want to believe it or not! There is no &quot;separation of church and state&quot; in the Constitution! However, there is a &quot;separation of church and state&quot; clause in the constitution of the Soviet Union! This is fact. In the early days of our Republic, all education in public schools was Christ-centered. I know, because I have many of the textbooks from that era. Some of these works include &quot;A History of the United States of America&quot;, written in 1823 by the Rev. Charles Goodrich. Noah Webster, who is the Father of American Education, wrote many Christ-centered textbooks, such as &quot;Noah Webster&#039;s Advice to the Young.&quot; And then there was William McGuffey, who wrote the famous McGuffey Readers, all of which are Christian based. These are just the tip of the iceburg, there are many more. Furthermore, all fifty of the preambles to the state constitutions acknowledge God as the author of liberty, all of our currency says &quot;In God We Trust&quot; on it, our Liberty Bell is inscripted with a Bible verse, (Leviticus 25:10) the Ten Commandments hang on the wall of the US Supreme Court, the Capitol Building is full of Biblical artwork (such as the portrait of the baptism of Pocahontis)and both the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument are laced with Biblical references. At one time, both the Capitol and the Treasury building were used for church services. And then there are numerous proclamations issued by presidents, governors, and Congress giving acknowledgment and thanks to Almighty God, as well as numerous rulings by both state courts and the US Supreme Court that we are a Christian Nation. 
I know Bradlee and Jake, and all the people in YCRBYCH, and they are honest, decent, sincere Christian people. Before you run off your mouths and pass judgment on them, maybe you ought to meet them and get to know them a little bit. I am going to their dinner tonight, and I look forward to hearing Bradlee and Michele Bachmann speak. Before I part, I&#039;ll ask you ignorant dummies one question; Where do your rights come from, God or man? If our rights come from God, which they do, then they are unalienable and no one can take them away. All His laws apply equally to everyone, whether rich or poor, black or white, male or female. This is true equality. If you do good, you should be rewarded, but if you do evil, you need to be punished no matter who you are. (Read Romans 13) If, on the other hand, as you folks evidently believe, that our rights come from man, then who makes the rules? Who defines what our rights are? You? Barack Obama? Nancy Pelosi? When government tries to decide what the people&#039;s rights are, they are in essence playing God and trying to lord it over you. What government gives, they can also take away. As Thomas Jefferson said; &quot;A government big enough to give the people what they want is also big enough to take away everything that they have.&quot; Be careful where you tread, my friends. When you slander good people like Bradlee Dean and Michele Bachmann, you are playing with fire! If you were to get your wish and destroy the foundation of our country, the end result will be the destruction of freedom, and that includes your own. (Read 1 Samuel 8) You will only enslave yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are all ignorant. You have all been brainwashed with secular, revisionist history. Our nation was founded on the principles of Christianity, whether you want to believe it or not! There is no &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221; in the Constitution! However, there is a &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221; clause in the constitution of the Soviet Union! This is fact. In the early days of our Republic, all education in public schools was Christ-centered. I know, because I have many of the textbooks from that era. Some of these works include &#8220;A History of the United States of America&#8221;, written in 1823 by the Rev. Charles Goodrich. Noah Webster, who is the Father of American Education, wrote many Christ-centered textbooks, such as &#8220;Noah Webster&#8217;s Advice to the Young.&#8221; And then there was William McGuffey, who wrote the famous McGuffey Readers, all of which are Christian based. These are just the tip of the iceburg, there are many more. Furthermore, all fifty of the preambles to the state constitutions acknowledge God as the author of liberty, all of our currency says &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; on it, our Liberty Bell is inscripted with a Bible verse, (Leviticus 25:10) the Ten Commandments hang on the wall of the US Supreme Court, the Capitol Building is full of Biblical artwork (such as the portrait of the baptism of Pocahontis)and both the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument are laced with Biblical references. At one time, both the Capitol and the Treasury building were used for church services. And then there are numerous proclamations issued by presidents, governors, and Congress giving acknowledgment and thanks to Almighty God, as well as numerous rulings by both state courts and the US Supreme Court that we are a Christian Nation.<br />
I know Bradlee and Jake, and all the people in YCRBYCH, and they are honest, decent, sincere Christian people. Before you run off your mouths and pass judgment on them, maybe you ought to meet them and get to know them a little bit. I am going to their dinner tonight, and I look forward to hearing Bradlee and Michele Bachmann speak. Before I part, I&#8217;ll ask you ignorant dummies one question; Where do your rights come from, God or man? If our rights come from God, which they do, then they are unalienable and no one can take them away. All His laws apply equally to everyone, whether rich or poor, black or white, male or female. This is true equality. If you do good, you should be rewarded, but if you do evil, you need to be punished no matter who you are. (Read Romans 13) If, on the other hand, as you folks evidently believe, that our rights come from man, then who makes the rules? Who defines what our rights are? You? Barack Obama? Nancy Pelosi? When government tries to decide what the people&#8217;s rights are, they are in essence playing God and trying to lord it over you. What government gives, they can also take away. As Thomas Jefferson said; &#8220;A government big enough to give the people what they want is also big enough to take away everything that they have.&#8221; Be careful where you tread, my friends. When you slander good people like Bradlee Dean and Michele Bachmann, you are playing with fire! If you were to get your wish and destroy the foundation of our country, the end result will be the destruction of freedom, and that includes your own. (Read 1 Samuel 8) You will only enslave yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Tank</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-41524</link>
		<dc:creator>Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Groups like this peddle their hate, bigotry and beliefs, breaking the state and federal laws put in place to limit them. They are also committing fraud by taking money and knowingly using it for something other than its purpose.

This is just pathetic. Honestly, the reason why atheism is gaining so quickly, more than doubled in past 20 years, is because groups like this try to force kids, and others to their way of thinking. That is not sharing your faith, it is pure and simple brainwashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Groups like this peddle their hate, bigotry and beliefs, breaking the state and federal laws put in place to limit them. They are also committing fraud by taking money and knowingly using it for something other than its purpose.</p>
<p>This is just pathetic. Honestly, the reason why atheism is gaining so quickly, more than doubled in past 20 years, is because groups like this try to force kids, and others to their way of thinking. That is not sharing your faith, it is pure and simple brainwashing.</p>
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		<title>By: TheColu.mn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bachmann to raise funds for anti-gay public school ministry</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheColu.mn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bachmann to raise funds for anti-gay public school ministry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a series of articles for the Minnesota Independent about the ministry and the fact that it may be running afoul of the Constitution by ministering at public high schools assemblies. The administrators at those schools say the group doesn&#8217;t mention that it is a ministry or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wrote a series of articles for the Minnesota Independent about the ministry and the fact that it may be running afoul of the Constitution by ministering at public high schools assemblies. The administrators at those schools say the group doesn&#8217;t mention that it is a ministry or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EdA</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-41152</link>
		<dc:creator>EdA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something very unclear to me -- for what reason would a public school book a band, regardless of flavor? And what on earth would a school pay them for?

This is simply a question for information.  Should they be dispensing religious stuff, then there&#039;s no doubt that they have no business being on campus with captive audiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something very unclear to me &#8212; for what reason would a public school book a band, regardless of flavor? And what on earth would a school pay them for?</p>
<p>This is simply a question for information.  Should they be dispensing religious stuff, then there&#8217;s no doubt that they have no business being on campus with captive audiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-41102</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must disagree with you folks in that this not a constitutional proble. The invitation of this band is not in any way establishing a government religion (like the Anglican church in England), the wall that Jefferson referred to in his letter to the Danbury Baptists.  That being said, if other religious (or atheistic) bands/groups want to perform they should be given equal time and opportunity as well.  I don&#039;t believe our children are well served by eliminating honest discourse about the differences in belief systems all in the name of &quot;separation of church and state&quot;.  Honest discourse and dialogue should be encouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must disagree with you folks in that this not a constitutional proble. The invitation of this band is not in any way establishing a government religion (like the Anglican church in England), the wall that Jefferson referred to in his letter to the Danbury Baptists.  That being said, if other religious (or atheistic) bands/groups want to perform they should be given equal time and opportunity as well.  I don&#8217;t believe our children are well served by eliminating honest discourse about the differences in belief systems all in the name of &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221;.  Honest discourse and dialogue should be encouraged.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaindependent.com/46665/christian-ministry-running-afoul-constitution/comment-page-1#comment-41000</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to expose these goons for years. Unfortunately they moved their base of operations away from my area and no long have the time to pursue them. A favorite was selling anti-drug t-shirts at gas stations to raise money. Once we contacted the station managers and explained what they were really about and their views, they would always be booted off the property.

I have also tried to get their tax documents since they claim to be a non-profit but have never had any luck with the IRS finding them. Anyone else ever try ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to expose these goons for years. Unfortunately they moved their base of operations away from my area and no long have the time to pursue them. A favorite was selling anti-drug t-shirts at gas stations to raise money. Once we contacted the station managers and explained what they were really about and their views, they would always be booted off the property.</p>
<p>I have also tried to get their tax documents since they claim to be a non-profit but have never had any luck with the IRS finding them. Anyone else ever try ?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Ramone's dead bloated corpse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey Ramone's dead bloated corpse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Christian Punk&quot;?  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  Give me a freaking break!  The purpose of punk is to do what you want, how you want to do it, without the constrictions of a heirarchy telling you how to behave-- the exact opposite of 99.999999% of so-called modern &quot;Christians&quot;.

I haven&#039;t heard these guys, but like the vast majority of so-called &quot;Christian Rock&quot;, I&#039;m fairly certain their music is derivative, unoriginal shite with a bunch of &quot;Jeebus&quot; shouted over the top, to make it &quot;Christian&quot;.

If the schools allow these guys to play, I demand they allow some good, Satan-worshiping ensembles to play, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Christian Punk&#8221;?  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  Give me a freaking break!  The purpose of punk is to do what you want, how you want to do it, without the constrictions of a heirarchy telling you how to behave&#8211; the exact opposite of 99.999999% of so-called modern &#8220;Christians&#8221;.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t heard these guys, but like the vast majority of so-called &#8220;Christian Rock&#8221;, I&#8217;m fairly certain their music is derivative, unoriginal shite with a bunch of &#8220;Jeebus&#8221; shouted over the top, to make it &#8220;Christian&#8221;.</p>
<p>If the schools allow these guys to play, I demand they allow some good, Satan-worshiping ensembles to play, too.</p>
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