Comments on: Religious right: Hate crimes bill part of Obama’s ‘radical anti-Christian agenda’

By: MerlynHerne

MerlynHerne — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:05:07 +0000

SO sad that fundamentalist Christians have this delusion that the entire world must live according to their book–or else. You people need to STFU say your prayers–and among those prayers should be a prayer for your deity to fogiver you for your arrogance, your hatred towards those who are not just like you and just your general mean-spiritedness.

My religion says, “If it harms none, do as ye will.” You should try that sometime. But remember–no hurt, be it physical, mental or emotional. A lot harder than a bunch of “thou shalt nots”, huh?

By: garth sommer

garth sommer — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:16:10 +0000

While I do not care not for bigotry, Christianity is indespensible (forgive my spelling)for what the west is. A lot of good has come from Christianity and it was Christianity that gave us western civilization. Believe me, you could be in worse places where there is no debating on theological matters as one can do with Christianity such as the value given to the individual life. The Europeans are beginning to wake up to the fact that an overly secularized society does not seem to be very life affirming and as a ‘post Christian’ society it has also shown a kind of weakness in reguards to islam. If you think colorful muslims are open to gay people, think again. I also feel ‘hate crimes laws’ are counter productive.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:41:58 +0000

You forgot the Pastafarians…

Other than that, nice post, eloquently stated!

By: Marie

Marie — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:53:38 +0000

Dave,

I personally have read, been thaught in school, and in church what the bible means. I was brought up in a very old school catholic church. I have also since those years of childhood and early adult years, been exposed to differeing opinions on the Bible from other schools, churches and groups of christains that tote the very same bible as that I was taught from. They have a total different look from it than my church did, as your church does from there and the one down the street has from theirs……there are reported to be over 38000 Christian denominations Are you saying your Church your take is the only take that is correct and that 37999 other’s are wrong. And therefore all those people will surely fry in hell from your version of the bible? Not to mention all the other religions that do not cary the christain bible in hand such as, and not complete and or in any order to name…..Islam, Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist, Hinduism, Chinese traditional, Buddhism, primal-indigenous, African Traditional & Diasporic, Sikhism, Juche, Spiritism, Judaism, Baha’i, Jainism,Shinto, Cao Dai, Zoroastrianism, Tenrikyo, Neo-Paganism, Unitarian-Universalism, Rastafarianism, Scientology: are all these people and all the othes that can not fit under a label also wrong? and will by your definition burn in hell?

The down right ego that it must take to say my way is the only way to God is Exactly what the bible you tote around teaches you NOT to do.

And question to you dave, if you believe in your bible as law, do you also believe in slavery? condone murder, rape and pologmy? For all of those are moral structure laws, not ceremonious ones. So you can not use the idea that of course I dont think that cutting my beard is against gods law, that is ceremonious, and not moral based.

The bible not only codones slavery but gives you rules in which you are to follow owning them. Not only the old testiment but Jesus him self.

Look to yourself for the right answer, not the book. Look into your heart, and look at the world with reality, not what a group of people that indoctrinated you to think. I will be surprised if you were able to do this and didn’t find true peace and the true meaning of what God is to you.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:30:49 +0000

Tim,

There’s where you went wrong. You read it yourself. That’s what church is for!

By: Tim

Tim — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:04:45 +0000

David,

Thanks for the invite. I’ve read the entire book twice. Just like any book, have two people read it and they’ll come away with vastly different conclusions. The good news for you is you know you are right, that your interpretation is correct. Just like God, you know exactly what the Bible means. Cause you just know. Good for you.

By: David

David — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:43:10 +0000

Tim,my bad. “BAPTIST”.Two things we all have in common is that Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins and we are all sinners.Tim i would like to invite you to take a look for yourself and come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.In the king james bible “Romans” chapter 10 and verses 9,10 and 13.

By: Rmath

Rmath — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:21:27 +0000

Mary, does this mean it’s also unconscionable for Christians to “continue to use a dead guy (Jesus) to promote their agenda”?

By: Rmath

Rmath — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:18:59 +0000

Can’t we just all agree that in a civilized society people have the right to be lovingly bludgeoned to death in the name of Jesus?

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:42:43 +0000

Here I thought that the post was so loony and incoherent that it must be a carefully constructed parody. My bad.

Sooooo, gawd apparently loves slavery and polygamy and murdering non-believing children, so I should too? Is that what he’s saying? Or do I have the wrong bible?

Should I take this guy as the poster child for hate crime lovin’ Christian, because he “dares to tell the truth?” How is a rational person supposed to have a discussion with someone like that?