Hannity’s 9/12 file video backs up Bachmann’s inflated 11/5 crowd estimate

By Chris Steller
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 9:30 am

fox compare When U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann appeared on Sean Hannity’s Fox News TV show to celebrate her anti-health care reform rally, she said it had drawn as many as 45,000 — a figure almost everyone else put at 10,000. Then Hannity showed video that began with scenes of Bachmann’s Thursday rally under a clear fall sky but shifted to a much larger protest (9/12, it turns out) under heavy clouds in which the trees are still green. On the Daily Show, Jon Stewart exposed the deception.

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Media Matters has a rundown of Fox’s past video trickery.

Here is Hannity’s original Fox News segment about Bachmann’s rally:

Update: On Wednesday’s show, Hannity acknowledged that Fox used the wrong footage.

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35 Comments

Northeaster
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 10:12 am

This would be the same Sean Hannity that takes audio from President Obama’s speeches and interviews and re-edits them to back up all of Hannity’s insane rants of paranoia.

I’m interested to see how all of the Fox apologists spin this one.

Sean Hannity: Supreme Propaganda Minister


jane
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 10:41 am

hannity speaks the truth. i don’t care what any one says. he fights for freedom and the constitution. he wasnt trying to mislead the public. he’s an honorable man. more than the socialist in chief. the only heros that remain in this country are hannity and bachmann.


John
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 11:06 am

“Jane” needs to learn how to spell (and understand the meaning of) Heroes: people of distinguished courage or ability, admired for their brave deeds and noble qualities.
Misleading the public isn’t noble, even in support of a just cause, (which denying the public healthcare isn’t) it is the same as stuffing the ballot box, it’s anti-truth, anti-democratic and anti-American. Falsifying what really happened to shore up support which wasn’t there is not brave, it’s an act committed by cowards to further an agenda of social segregation for a neo-darwinist (new survivalist) competition between the rich and the poor. While those who can afford healthcare have enough wealth to keep their status, the rest of the people drown in rising health care costs, unable to gain any upward mobility: thanks to republicans, education costs have skyrocketed as well.


EndUser
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 11:22 am

So says the obvious product of ‘no child left behind’. Heros? I mean they even have a TV series that spells it correctly. You watch TV, don’t you?

How can someone who abets a lie by using deceit be fighting for freedom and the constitution? Is there a ‘it’s ok to lie’ amendment I’m not aware of? Because if so, hey, look, I cloned a human! I’m awesome!


Hoosier
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 11:27 am

Jane,

Hannity has no interest in freedom or the Constitution….

Hannity cares about ratings, money, and proving himself right…

You need to get your facts from somewhere other than a biased opinion show on a one-sided “news network” funded by big business…

Okay, this is the part where you tell me about inherent liberal media bias, spitting on the constitution, “true americans,” and the coming revolution….


itsamee
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 11:31 am

jane, do you really believe that?

hannity doesnt speak for anything but money, power, and ratings.

explain the hard truth spoken when he intentionally slips in clips of other, larger, rallies so they can talk about how big the anti-healthcare rally is?

is it true there are people aganst this legislation? sure there are.. is it nearly as big as fox news leads you to believe? not in the slighest

fox news intentionally scripts agressive inflamatory speach, aimed to instill fear, uncertianty and doubt into its viewership in an effort to increase their raitings.. and as you can clearly see it works… its a simple concept really and has been used for ages


bud
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 11:41 am

This shows all the more that Fox News is really not a news station. What do they claim “Fair and Balance”?


jane
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 11:46 am

i really believe that. just understand that i can never see things through your eyes and vice versa. what’s reasonable to you isn’t necessarily reasonable to me. sure i can’t spell. nice elitist college educated thing to say. you’re comments only hurt your cause and inflame the other side. people are mad and you just have to get over that. race or not.


Michael MN
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

Oh, Hannity just put up pictures of what Michele Bachmann saw, not what was there in reality.


rachel
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:07 pm

Jane,

The difference is,,,YOU cannot factually or intelligently back up your claims or opinions..just repeat them over and over. That is the sign of someone who has been brianwashed. You fail completely to give any reason why it is apparently OK with you that “fox news” has an agenda and Sean Hannitty fakes footage to decieve people. Hannitty’s lies are the point of the article.

You are in a very small minority… a minority that falsely claims they are the majority, and then fakes footage to back up that false claim. Whatever your political feelings, There is NO DIGNITY in that.


rachel
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

“he wasn’t trying to mislead the public”

He was, he does, and he will continue to do so. Just think of all the fake footage that he has used that people never caught on to. Jon Stewart only caught him this time because he was stupid enough to use footage from a different season. These people are spewing propaganda and need to be held accountable.


lol
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

Lol Jane do you mean elitist 4th grade education thing to say. I think what everyone here wants you to do is open your eyes. Maybe not see through the middle class people struggling to make payments on their health care debt, maybe not the thousands that die from lack of health care in one of the richest countries in the world. But rather open your eyes and tune away from the constant propaganda that you are being fed on a daily basis. Jefferson called it, “A man that reads nothing but newspapers is less educated than the man that reads nothing at all.” Speaks to getting your views on American people from one biased source.


slavicdiva
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:11 pm

Jane is a troll, please ignore him or her.

The exact same comment, word-for-word with identical ignorance of spelling and grammar, has appeared posted by “Emeril” on the Minneapolis City Pages site, and by “liam” on rawstory.com.

Good on you, Jon Stewart, for showing FuxSnooze to have all the integrity I suspected it had!


Jared
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:35 pm

Fox just seems to be using every trick they can think of to alienate their viewers from reality. Their consistent message seems to be that you can only ‘Love America’ if you hate most Americans.

Al Quada and the Tea Baggers both hate moderates and just want everyone to focus on the reasons to hate. But if we can’t show the world how to deal w/ our extremists, how can we expect other countries to be able to de-fang their own?


John McKee
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

Jane – I don’t like to see people being mocked for the odd spelling mistake, but you bring it on yourself when you ignore such basics as starting a sentence with a capital letter. Your pewky little whine about elitist college folks falls a little flat when you consider that 6 year-olds are up to speed on that one.

You are being mocked for your inability to see a hulking great lie when it’s staring you in the face as well as your utter laziness in expressing your dopey opinion. No amount of college can cure stupidity.


Rachel
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:42 pm

Jane,
Why do you think that?
Honestly, I don’t understand how there can be more than one interpretation of this issue. If the choice to use that footage was deliberate (which it must have been), how can it possibly be justified? I don’t think it can.
PS, slavicdiva, a Troll? SERIOUSLY? Grow up.


Scot
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:44 pm

The next time Fox tells you they are fair and balanced please remember this story. I usually find that if someone lies to me about one thing, they’ll lie anytime they think it’s to their benefit.


Conor
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

Obviously no one can defend using misleading footage, but the vitriolic rants against Fox are hardly called for. Every single network has been caught in similar behavior in the past. NBC once rigged a pickup truck to explode, for example, in a series about the vehicle’s safety. Does this prove everything NBC reports on is false? Only to those incapable of looking a an outlet with a point of view — which, brace yourselves, is all of them — and applying a bit of a personal filter. The New York Times ran made up stories by one of their reporter — does this mean nothing in the paper is true? In comparison, the use of old protest footage seems a minor infraction, as dumb as it undoubtedly was.


Jam Jong
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:56 pm

Except that the video was FAKE… just like FOX NOISE

Seeing is believing:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2009/nov/11/usa-comedy


Mill
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 1:41 pm

if Jane thinks Hannity a hero when he deliberately lies to his broadcast audience by showing rally footage from a rally other than the one at focus in the news report – with the specific intent of inflating the importance of the rally at question, she needs to rethink what is heroic to her.

I tend to value a hero is s/he has integrity. Hannity has none.


THEMEDIA
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 1:42 pm

If you are as outraged about this as I am, I strongly encourage you to file a complaint to the FCC here:
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

The appropriate Complaint Type is “Broadcast (TV and Radio), Cable, and Satellite Issues” and the Complaint Category is “Unauthorized, unfair, biased, illegal broadcasts” (the form states that this includes “Biased or distorted news stories by the media”). The original show aired on Fox News at 9:00 pm Eastern on November 5th 2009.

We have an avenue to correct this type of falsification and to make change we must make a complaint.


Mikael
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 2:56 pm

Compared to all of the things mainstream media has lied about (or not told the entire truth about), this is incredibly insignificant.

Coming from someone from neither right or left, I can’t begin to comprehend how this even matters. There are much bigger things going on. How health care took priority over a floundering economy, falling dollar, and national debt is AMAZING. While millions remain jobless, Obama’s pushing health care. It became an enormous issue when he made it one. Our health care is the best in the world. Yes, it sometimes expensive, but there’s a reason. You get what you pay for. I know many self-employed people who have great health insurance plans for around $120 per month. You likely pay more than this for you damn Smartphone plan.

I’ve been to countries with government-ran health care, and I can tell you that it’s horrible. Think ours will be much different? These countries have trial-and-errored their way through all kinds of scenarios, and they are implementing policies what works best in this type of system.

Interestingly enough, I know too many losers who get their political news straight from Jon Stewart and try to talk like they know something about something. Seriously guys? This show is on Comedy Central for a reason.

Tools.


Tim
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 2:57 pm

Hey Slavicdiva,

Nice work on exposing “Jane” as a fake. Too bad so many people wasted their time trying to “reason” with a fraud.


Dennis
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 3:05 pm

Ooooh, someone who is so pompous as to call himself/herself “THEMEDIA” wants to call the media police to complain about an allegedly overzealous estimate?!
Hannity speaks the TRUTH, using the best information available to him. If such information is proven to be inaccurate, he will humbly apologize and make appropriate corrections. He is a man of HONOR.
Regardless of the actual number of citizens who made it to the Capitol on very short notice, the crowd only represents the very tip of the iceberg that is the portion of the population that is vehemently opposed to the health care legislation that made it through the House on the strength of just THREE VOTES!


Dennis
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

By the way, I applaud “Jane” for her courage to speak her mind, and I am amused by the number of retorts that were generated by her “Comment”.
I found John McKee’s critique particularly ironic. As he was careful to point out the mistakes Jane had made, he goes on to criticize her comment as a “pewky little whine”. (The word is “pukey”, John.)
It is funny how often liberal comments define the phrase, “the pot calling the kettle black”.


THEMEDIA
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 3:30 pm

@Dennis,
Hannity has stated that he will respond to this.

What will your reaction be if he does not “humbly apologize and make appropriate corrections”?


Sgore
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 3:39 pm

Rachel,
I think there may be a misunderstanding. On the internet,just as things like Spam and Phishing have their own definitions the term “troll” does not refer to the literal traditional depiction of a troll (which, if slavicdiva were actually calling Jane that, then yes I agree that would be fairly immature. Name calling and making debasing comparisons to people like that is completely unconstructive and I don’t support its use in any debate)
Online the phrase “troll” is instead is used to refer to someone who goes into an internet debate for the sole purpose of posting comments that inflame and or anger participants because they enjoy the reactions that they can provoke: http://www.netlingo.com/dictionary/t.php
By saying someone is a “troll” online, a person is generally attempting to make others aware that the poster is engaging in such activity, and warn them not to be tricked into a provoked outrage. It is not an attempt to insult the person in question or call that person a literal troll.(Which again, I agree, were that the case it would not be a polite or constructive thing to do)
I have no idea whether or not the person in this case is in fact trolling, I’m just posting to help clear up any misconseption there may be.
Hope it helps!
-Sam


Sgore
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 3:42 pm

Also sorry, here’s a more direct link to the definition of the word: http://www.netlingo.com/word/troll.php


Dennis
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 4:20 pm

@ THEMEDIA

My reaction would be surprise and dismay.

What will be your reaction when he DOES (if necessary)?


THEMEDIA
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

@Dennis
Surprise and delight, I guess.

That’s assuming he “humbly apologize(s) and make(s) appropriate corrections.” If he just blames it on a mistake, I will in no way be surprised or delighted, I will be saddened and not surprised.

I guess I’ll see you here tomorrow.


lookatthepatriotsflagwaving
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

I notice the Constitution is being mentioned in this threads. Perhaps someone can point me to the section of the Constitution that authorizes Congress to compel me to buy health insurance with the threat of sanctions or criminal penalties if I do not comply?


Northeaster
Comment posted November 12, 2009 @ 6:10 am

@lookatthepatriotsflagwaving
Free will compels you to do what you think is in your own personal best interest. The Constitution affords you that. Any attempt to circumvent that reality would never pass muster with the Supreme Court.

But you really beat the hell out of that strawman didn’t you? He never saw the hit coming.


Platitude
Comment posted November 12, 2009 @ 4:54 pm

When this topic has been thoroughly bludgeoned for all it’s potential fodder for vulgar comments, will someone look into the honesty in Jon Stwart using canned laughter after each of his comments?


SmellTester
Comment posted November 15, 2009 @ 9:47 am

Boy, the hypocrisy in these comments is astounding. Fox News is the only media outlet sponsored by “big business”? You’re a joke for saying something so utterly stupid. Where was all your hotair “outrage” from 2003-2008 when Democrats spewed forth as much, if not more, lies and called it “patriotic”? Where were you when Democrats were exxagerating rally numbers at the Capital when they rallied opposite a tax cut rally (and the Strib deliberately lied and said the tax cut rally attendence was in the hundreds when it was in excess of 4-5,000)? You must have stock in shovel manufacturing, so you get rich on the shovels people buy to get thru your BS.


THEMEDIA
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 11:48 am

@Platitude….

You do know that Jon Stewart is recorded in front of a studio audience, right? That laughter isn’t canned.


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