Comments on: Catholics, evangelicals pledge to ignore LGBT and abortion rights laws

By: Greg Apologia

Greg Apologia — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:25:30 +0000

It is amazing the lack of Biblical knowledge at a very basic level of those who attack Christians. They simply are foolish to argue about something they seem to know little to nothing about. If you don’t know basic New Testament Christian teachings (with ref.: understanding the texts as well as the contexts), then argue from some other perspective. You come across as someone that is angry and uninformed…and if you think that if someone disagrees with you necessarily hates you, well that is a phobia and I would seriously get help…signed a Christian who loves others and sometimes opposes their viewpoints.

By: AP

AP — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 01:05:41 +0000

Why do these “Evangelicals” (who, by the way have hijacked
the Christian ‘Faith’ in America from those who most would
call ‘the TRUE Followers of Christ’ — making it into a “religion”
of both ‘worshipping-mammon and legislating-morality’) seem
to arrogantly think that God is so ready and willing to “punish
America for all the aborted babies” — and YET also somehow
manage to believe that God is (perfectly accepting of and)
NOT at all willing to “punish America for any of the …?

1) American Indians murdered for their land;

2) People (of all “races”) held in slavery (chattel,
indentured-servitude, debt, wage, etc.) in the nation;

3) Abused and exploited vulnerable people
(children, women, elderly, sickly, poor, etc.)

3) Rape and destruction of the ecology
(not to mention corporate-welfare
at the expense of the most needy);

4) Miscarriages of justice in the courts;

5) etc. and so on.” ?!?!?!?!

Why do they honestly (and arrogantly — not to
mention ‘unscripturally’) think that God is ONLY
concerned with the things that “bother them”?!?!?!

In my opinion — those aborted fetuses will have a long line
of OTHER INJUSTICES (MADE AGAINST MANY OTHER
GROUPS IN AMERICA) to stand behind — before they get
their chance to present their “demands to God for justice”.

Also — why does it seem that the very same people who are
against gender right’s, reproductive rights; sexual rights;
work wage rights, education rights; social rights; equality
rights; etc. — often seem to have ‘no problem’ at all with
the many other SAD FACTS ABOUT AMERICA (such as
the past slavery/segregation-system; the destruction of
98% of the indigenous-people of the land; etc. and so
on — NONE OF WHICH the nation, as a whole, nor
any of it’s leadership has EVER repented of; asked
God to forgive/pardon; or attempted to ‘make amends’).

Seriously … talk about cherry-picking of ‘abominations’!

They are simply Unbelieveable !!!!

By: Daniel

Daniel — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:34:31 +0000

What’s wrong with killing babies? It’s easy and fun to make them, and once born they are too much work and responsibility for many women who are busy at work and have a wonderful active and satisfying sex life. What’s wrong with killing babies?

By: George Cheney

George Cheney — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:28:51 +0000

The Catholic church is denouncing what it deems “immoral sexual acts” while their churches in Ireland and elsewhere cover up the scandals of their own pedophile priests. What a strange world we live in.

By: friday

friday — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:13:55 +0000

Good, the government keeps violating the separation of church and state, it’s time the church take a stand and stop them. It’s funny to me that the same people who complain that if we make abortion illegal then mothers who kill their babies will have to go to jail are the exact same people who support laws that will send me to jail if I don’t pay for their abortions.

By: The Manhattan Declaration and the HRC | thomascwaters.com

The Manhattan Declaration and the HRC | thomascwaters.com — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:37:05 +0000

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By: mulchand1

mulchand1 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:31:31 +0000

The Catholic Church as late as 1866 still sanctioned slavery as a legitimate status under law. It wasnt until 1918 that the Canon Law was changed to prohibit the selling of slaves. (owning of slaves was not mentioned)In 1965 Vatican II denounced slavery in no uncertain terms.
It takes awhile for change to come to Rome.

I am not a Christian but I recently looked over the Gospel of Luke as I heard a quote that caught my eye and went looking for it. I was struck how many times Luke’s gospel condemns wealth and cites people to aid those in poverty. Not a few times but it seems a constant theme within the entire Gospel. I didnt read the whole thing, but I didnt see any mention of homosexuality in that gospel.

By: Woodsman

Woodsman — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:56:22 +0000

I noticed the church “fathers” (they are about 90% men, probably almost all white, as I am) Manhattan Declaration piously reference in their manifesto Martin Luther King’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail as support. Ironically, King’s letter from Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963, was addressed to “My Dear Fellow Clergymen” – the primary church leaders of Alabama who were effectively doing their best to make sure he’d end up in that jail. They counseled moderation (comply with the local law), even after 100 years of enforced “moderation” following the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t seem to do much good in the deep south. These “Fellow Clergymen” were big cahunas of their denominations, people like Bishops, and all white, across denomination lines in the days when ecumenism was still a novelty. Best I recall, they even placed a large ad in the newspaper to make sure their anti-demonstration message got out. A couple of years later the local Catholic Bishop tried to prohibit Priests and Nuns from supporting King’s march on Selma. The Bishop failed. These pious Manhattan folks best sober up and read not only MLK’s letter, but their brother leaders anti-protest screed that led King to write their forebears “from Birmingham Jail”. (It is easy to access MLKs letter on the internet; considerably more difficult to find the religious leaders document. It’s worth the search.) Probably a good idea to print out the Manhattan manifesto before they deep-six the reference to MLK’s Letter from the Birmingham Jail…. If memory serves, kindly Pope John XXIII powerful encylical was issued the very same week King was tossed in Jail, thanks in part to his local Bishop.

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:24:18 +0000

I remember when Catholic priests demonstrated and were jailed because they were against the Vietnam war. I remember when Jews and Baptists were firehosed and jailed (if they were lucky, murdered if they weren’t) because they were for giving civil rights to American citizens. I remember the conservatives spewing hate at them and saying they were traitors, that they had no right to disobey laws.

But you don’t hear much anymore about being against war. Or poverty. Or bigotry.

By: Danny

Danny — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:39:09 +0000

In reply to “Ambrose C”:

If I am in principle, ethically and morally, against pedophiles because they exploit the mental and sexual innocence of indefenseless children, will you call me, and those who agree with me, a “hotbed of [pedo] hatred?”

You might say that pedophilia is against the “law” in this country and therefore cannot serve as an analogy. However, sodomy, homosexuality and other forms of perversions, were at one time against “the law”. Now that they are accepted, by well-meaning but deceived individuals, they are acknowledged as accepted lifestyles and anyone who disagrees with that lifestyle, by ethical or moral principle, is a “hater”?

So as long as pedophilia is illegal, I am not a hater of pedophiles. But, God forbid, if it ever becomes legal – and don’t kid yourself many are pushing for that – I would then become a pedo-hater?

This is what happens when we believe that just because something is “legal” it is therefore by extension, moral and ethical and should be embraced. It is not.

Abortion is legal, but it is immoral and perversely abominable because it exploits the most innocent as a “choice” when in actuality he/or she is a human being. And as much as the pro-death people would like, no amount of semantics can change that reality.