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By: Honking The Clown Car’s Horn In MN-01 « Mercury Rising 鳯女

Honking The Clown Car’s Horn In MN-01 « Mercury Rising 鳯女 — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:05:11 +0000

[...] to go with the outright lies and sexism, Jim — though it’s true that you’re not exactly unfamiliar with making outrageous statements. I guess with noted feminist Allen Quist running to your right, you have no choice short of [...]

By: Tim Bonham

Tim Bonham — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:49:25 +0000

“Leave it to liberals to ruin John Wayne’s wisdom of the only good Indian being a dead Indian.”

When did John Wayne ever say this?

I believe it was actually said by Rep. James M. Cavanaugh, of Chatfield, MN, on May 28, 1868 on the floor of the US Congress. There were later claims that General Phillip Sheridan had quoted it to Comanche Chief Tosawi (Silver Knife), but Sheridan always denied this.

Hagedorn can’t even get his racist quotes correct!

By: Paul Schmelzer

Paul Schmelzer — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:14:36 +0000

Noel: All you’ve got is ad hominem. You bring up my employer of nearly three years ago and your factually inaccurate recounting of an art controversy there 15 years ago to impugn me. You talk of my “drive-by journalistic” practices and “venemonous hate,” yet offer no facts to challenge what I’ve laid out in an impartial way.

You’re correct: end of conversation.

By: Noel Collis M.D.

Noel Collis M.D. — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:15:59 +0000

Your drive by journalistic shooting of Hagedorn appeared to have a focus on the Wellstone funeral and the South Dakota voter fraud issue. My explanation and prior research points ouy why you are attempting to engage in character assasination by taking statements out of context in order to distort Hagedorn’s position. Many, including myself, thus have a factual basis to conclude that venomous hatred is a motivating force here. Indeed, if you are not open to truthful explanations, there is no basis on which to continue discussion.

By: Paul Schmelzer

Paul Schmelzer — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:37:26 +0000

I have “venomous hate” for no one, and I challenge you to point out any language I used that would suggest I do. If you believe Hagedorn “simply did not say the rather absurd and ridiculous bigoted comments attributed to him here” — despite my documentation of them — then we don’t have much common ground to keep talking.

By: Noel Collis M.D.

Noel Collis M.D. — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:29:56 +0000

Rest assured that I have read Hagedorn,s blog over the years and had many of the concerns expressed here. I put some of these very questions to Hagedorn in the past. The Wellstone funeral, for instance, became an embarrassing event for the DFL and for Paul’s legacy. It was abused as a political rally rather than treated as a solemn occasion. The DFL paid for this at the polls .The concerns about voter fraud on the Sioux Reservation was directing anger at those who engage in voter fraud- in this case they happened to be Native Americans/Sioux. He simply did not say the rather absurd and ridiculous bigoted comments attributed to him here.(HE used quotes of others in the historical past to demonstrate how these types of incidents allow some retro figures (in the past) to express rather biased views. The summation of the quotes that you attribute to Hagedorn are nothing more than the journalisitc equivalaent of a drive by shoting. I suspect that Hagedorn likely reworded many of his blog entries to attempt to prevent this abuse in order to engage in honest debate. Rewording would make it more difficult to attempt to smear his good name by taking statemens completely ouy of context- and then distorting them- and thus diverting attention from the real issues. This is hardly a novel approach- there is nothing wrong with honest and civil exchange of opinions and debate. Taking his statements completety out of context is an attempt to engage in character assassination and preclude an honest and thoughtful discussion. Rather pathetic. Oh, and by the way, does Acorn’s fraudulent votes for Hollywood franken concern you? Do the multibillion dollar bailouts of the Wall Street fat cats (both Bush AND big Obama donors) bother you? Do kids in the military being blown up for political purposes bother you? These matters are news- the rather pathetic and venemous attack on Hagedorn is not news. Hagedorn was (and is) vehemently opposed to these bailouts and the killing and maiming of American kids for political purposes-i.e. Obama’s headlong dive into the Afghan quagmire. Your journalistic drive by shooting of Hagedorn and your venemous hate appear to cloud your capacity to focus on the REAL issues of subsintance.

By: Paul Schmelzer

Paul Schmelzer — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:36:07 +0000

Your facts here are wrong (about me and and the Walker/Ron Athey case), but to correct them indulges your tactic of shooting the messenger instead of addressing the newsworthiness of the story. Like Franken and his comedy writing, Hagedorn’s presentation of his ideas to the world are fair game for public scrutiny — especially since he’s seeking public office, and especially since a candidate who touts his humor appears to have removed his humorous writing from public view. To try to impugn me is merely an attempt to distract from that. I don’t have “venomous hate” for Hagedorn, and I sincerely hope he’ll accept my offer to discuss his writings and candidacy.

By: Noel Collis M.D.

Noel Collis M.D. — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:10:12 +0000

It appears that Mr. Schmelzer has a position at the government subsidized Walker Art Center- or one of its affiliates. The same Walker Art Center that dropped AIDS tainted blood on its patrons a few years back. It is not surprising that the likes of Mr. Schmelzer would love a joke by Al Franken- and would find the same joke by Jim Hagedorn to be reprehensible. Partisan shills tend to be this way. OPM (other people’s money) is like a narcotic- and people like Jim Hagedorn would prefer the “artists” get real jobs- as in surviving in a free market by selling the fruits of their labor without involuntary forced subsidy from working people. Hence the venemous hatred toward Hagedorn. Humorless mean spirited jerk- the blog above says. That must be Franken. Ironic that HIS jokes are not mentioned here.

By: Lazercat

Lazercat — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:13:56 +0000

Don’t scrub me bro.

By: Bill

Bill — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:59:06 +0000

Jim Hagedorn seems MANIACALLY obsessed with gay sex. So much so, in fact, that it is not even possible that this man is a heterosexual just by how much he thinks and writes about gay men. I wonder why he never mentions gay women? I guess that’s OK because the girl-on-girl action is what gets most hetero men off anyway. So, as long as heterosexual men are getting their rocks off on something, all is OK with God. How wonderful!

One wonders if this ‘man’ is even a human being.

I guess we will have to find out once he is, inevitably, elected and worshipped in this ‘great’ nation.

Jeez. These days, I have NEVER been happier to be a gay American.

Look around at the hetero-alternatives. You guys are the best-of-the-best humanity has to offer, huh? Really???????

No thanks.