Comments on: Opponents slam Bachmann on Social Security, Medicare plan http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan News. Politics. Media. Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:48:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Bachmann called Social Security ‘a tremendous fraud’ in 2010 | Live News http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-145104 Bachmann called Social Security ‘a tremendous fraud’ in 2010 | Live News Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:24:04 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-145104 [...] took heavy criticism for her remarks, which Dave Dziok, Bachmann’s spokesman at the time, later [...] [...] took heavy criticism for her remarks, which Dave Dziok, Bachmann’s spokesman at the time, later [...]

]]> By: Bachmann called Social Security ‘a tremendous fraud’ in 2010 | LeftWingPost.com http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-144916 Bachmann called Social Security ‘a tremendous fraud’ in 2010 | LeftWingPost.com Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:57:33 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-144916 [...] took heavy criticism for her remarks, which Dave Dziok, Bachmann’s spokesman at the time, later [...] [...] took heavy criticism for her remarks, which Dave Dziok, Bachmann’s spokesman at the time, later [...]

]]> By: Bachmann called Social Security ‘a tremendous fraud’ in 2010 | All Latest News http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-144829 Bachmann called Social Security ‘a tremendous fraud’ in 2010 | All Latest News Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:37:08 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-144829 [...] took heavy criticism for her remarks, which Dave Dziok, Bachmann’s spokesman at the time, later [...] [...] took heavy criticism for her remarks, which Dave Dziok, Bachmann’s spokesman at the time, later [...]

]]> By: moe007 http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-139629 moe007 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:30:51 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-139629 Pirate JO, SS has worked for a very long time as a safety net. I started working when I was sixteen, paid bills, invested, and played the game by all the rules. Some times I won, and some time I lost. Over the years I paid into the SS insurance program for someone else,and now you are going to pay for me. If that upsets you, you can get together with Joe the plumber and have a cold beer. It is like car insurance, every one pays into it and when a member has an accident they are covered, can you dig it? The system works, leave it alone. Yourself, Palin, Backmann, and all the Tea partiers would be better served to pursue other avenues of government spending and waste of tax dollars than attacking a program that benefits millions of Americans. All that being said, I need to check that my SS check has been deposited in my account. When you get together with Joe the plumber and tell him I said HEY. Pirate JO, SS has worked for a very long time as a safety net. I started working when I was sixteen, paid bills, invested, and played the game by all the rules. Some times I won, and some time I lost. Over the years I paid into the SS insurance program for someone else,and now you are going to pay for me. If that upsets you, you can get together with Joe the plumber and have a cold beer. It is like car insurance, every one pays into it and when a member has an accident they are covered, can you dig it? The system works, leave it alone. Yourself, Palin, Backmann, and all the Tea partiers would be better served to pursue other avenues of government spending and waste of tax dollars than attacking a program that benefits millions of Americans. All that being said, I need to check that my SS check has been deposited in my account. When you get together with Joe the plumber and tell him I said HEY.

]]> By: whaa http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-133435 whaa Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:46:31 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-133435 For the last 50 years, the richest americans income taxes have decreased. While the national debt has increased. Now the right wants to end social programs to help pay down debt. What the hell am I missing here? For the last 50 years, the richest americans income taxes have decreased. While the national debt has increased. Now the right wants to end social programs to help pay down debt. What the hell am I missing here?

]]> By: VBobier http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-133434 VBobier Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:57:52 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-133434 Social Security a Ponzi scheme? Give Me a break. It's a pay as You go retirement and disability program which by law is supposed be separate from the Federal Budget, a real Ponzi scheme is privatization of Social Security that wall street would love to get to suck fees from, People lost lots of money in their IRAs and 401Ks due to Wall Street shenanigans. As to converting Medicare/Medicaid/Medi-Cal to vouchers, that's a worthless boondoggle, but then Health Insurance for Seniors is not cheap or plentiful as Seniors tend to die the older they get and so are very high risk to insure by their very nature. Insuring against Earthquakes might be cheaper than insuring a Senior through private health insurance. Social Security unfunded? Social Security has a $2.6 Trillion in a surplus which is funded by FICA taxes by Federal Law. Social Security unconstitutional? Hah! That was decided by the US Supreme Court in 1937, they said that Social Security is Constitutional as is mentioned below by court decision... Helvering vs. Davis. Steward Machine Co. vs. Davis. Carmichael vs. Southern Coal & Coke and Gulf States Paper. Savings? What's that? I don't have that... If one gets SSI(Supplemental Security Income) in California, One gets no Food Stamps, this is cause of a California policy known as Cash Out, So Food Stamps are embargoed to California SSI recipients. Michelle Bachmann is a Religious Zealot, and a dangerous uncaring Kook. Social Security a Ponzi scheme? Give Me a break. It’s a pay as You go retirement and disability program which by law is supposed be separate from the Federal Budget, a real Ponzi scheme is privatization of Social Security that wall street would love to get to suck fees from, People lost lots of money in their IRAs and 401Ks due to Wall Street shenanigans. As to converting Medicare/Medicaid/Medi-Cal to vouchers, that’s a worthless boondoggle, but then Health Insurance for Seniors is not cheap or plentiful as Seniors tend to die the older they get and so are very high risk to insure by their very nature.

Insuring against Earthquakes might be cheaper than insuring a Senior through private health insurance.

Social Security unfunded? Social Security has a $2.6 Trillion in a surplus which is funded by FICA taxes by Federal Law.

Social Security unconstitutional? Hah! That was decided by the US Supreme Court in 1937, they said that Social Security is Constitutional as is mentioned below by court decision…

Helvering vs. Davis.
Steward Machine Co. vs. Davis.
Carmichael vs. Southern Coal & Coke and Gulf States Paper.

Savings? What’s that? I don’t have that…

If one gets SSI(Supplemental Security Income) in California, One gets no Food Stamps, this is cause of a California policy known as Cash Out, So Food Stamps are embargoed to California SSI recipients.

Michelle Bachmann is a Religious Zealot, and a dangerous uncaring Kook.

]]> By: Privatization of Social Security is no Empty Threat « Path To Well-Being http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-118338 Privatization of Social Security is no Empty Threat « Path To Well-Being Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:14:16 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-118338 [...] In total, 47 percent of House Republicans and 49 percent of Senate Republicans are on record supporting the privatization of Social Security. Some, including Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), want to go even further and “wean everybody” off of Social Securit... [...] [...] In total, 47 percent of House Republicans and 49 percent of Senate Republicans are on record supporting the privatization of Social Security. Some, including Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), want to go even further and “wean everybody” off of Social Securit… [...]

]]> By: Obama’s Middle-Class Tax Cut (Yes, The One You Never Heard Of) May Expire Gudumami.net http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-88024 Obama’s Middle-Class Tax Cut (Yes, The One You Never Heard Of) May Expire Gudumami.net Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:00:06 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-88024 [...] next Congress, wants to keep Social Security and Medicare only for people who currently have it and wean off everyone else. Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan’s road map to budget balance privatizes both programs over time. The [...] [...] next Congress, wants to keep Social Security and Medicare only for people who currently have it and wean off everyone else. Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan’s road map to budget balance privatizes both programs over time. The [...]

]]> By: Jodi G. http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-56989 Jodi G. Wed, 12 May 2010 19:03:13 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-56989 She's talking about ending entitlements, just like Obamacare. We can't afford any of this stuff. We've got to find another solution. Don't get me wrong, I want our seniors taken care of. But the system is flat broke. She’s talking about ending entitlements, just like Obamacare. We can’t afford any of this stuff. We’ve got to find another solution. Don’t get me wrong, I want our seniors taken care of. But the system is flat broke.

]]> By: John http://minnesotaindependent.com/55173/opponents-slam-bachmann-on-social-security-medicare-plan/comment-page-1#comment-51189 John Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:27:57 +0000 http://minnesotaindependent.com/?p=55173#comment-51189 Many of you see this as a political problem, and although the program and policies were initially created by politicians, it's just a simple economic problem, if there is not enough money coming into the system then how do you expect it to continue. The larger problem is that more and more Americans will be entering into retirement in the next decade and that means there must be more and more people to pay into this Ponzi scheme, the fact of the matter is there isn't, we have very little of a manufacturing base left here and because of outsourcing we have become the greatest nation of consumers the world has ever seen, and so the government must borrow those funds from someone (China, Japan)just to fulfill its promise to all those who think that their money has been waiting for them in a nice safe place. And if you are smart enough to realize that the government has been raiding that fund for years and years why then would you not wish to see a program that is so corrupt at its core be done away with, do you sincerely wish our country to become beholden to outside influence so that the future generations to come should be worse off because of it, or could it be you have grown so accustom to these socialistic progressive entitlement programs, and that you so want your share you are willing to say screw the country, where's mine. Many of you see this as a political problem, and although the program and policies were initially created by politicians, it’s just a simple economic problem, if there is not enough money coming into the system then how do you expect it to continue. The larger problem is that more and more Americans will be entering into retirement in the next decade and that means there must be more and more people to pay into this Ponzi scheme, the fact of the matter is there isn’t, we have very little of a manufacturing base left here and because of outsourcing we have become the greatest nation of consumers the world has ever seen, and so the government must borrow those funds from someone (China, Japan)just to fulfill its promise to all those who think that their money has been waiting for them in a nice safe place.

And if you are smart enough to realize that the government has been raiding that fund for years and years why then would you not wish to see a program that is so corrupt at its core be done away with, do you sincerely wish our country to become beholden to outside influence so that the future generations to come should be worse off because of it, or could it be you have grown so accustom to these socialistic progressive entitlement programs, and that you so want your share you are willing to say screw the country, where’s mine.

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