White on same-sex marriage: Rosa Parks didn’t ‘move to the front of the bus to support sodomy’

By Andy Birkey
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 at 9:05 am
Barb Davis White

Barb Davis White

For the first time in Minnesota history, a legislative committee contemplated the legalization of same-sex marriage in the state on Monday. And while gay and lesbian families shared moving testimony about the hardships their families face because they cannot marry, a duo of congressional candidates stole the show with controversial commentary on gays and lesbians.

Barb Davis White, a Tea Party activist and Republican candidate for Minnesota’s 5th Congressional District, prompted shocked gasps from the packed hearing room when she said, “Rosa Parks did not move to the front of the bus to support sodomy.” Her testimony involved accusations that the movement for marriage equality is hijacking the civil rights movement.

“There is no difference between a black person and a white person other than their skin color when there’s a tremendous difference between a man and a woman,” said White, who was the GOP’s endorsed candidate against Rep. Keith Ellison in 2008. “Allowing a black woman and a white man to marry does not change the definition of marriage. However, allowing two men or two women to marry would fundamentally change that definition.”

GOP candidate Teresa Collet at Monday's hearing

GOP candidate Teresa Collett at Monday's hearing

White also garnered some laughs from the audience when she said, “Studies also show that the average homosexual has hundreds of sexual partners in his lifetime… and I repeat hundreds.”

“I’m here today to tell you that homosexuality and lesbian behavior is unhealthy,” claiming that gays and lesbians have higher rates of STDs than anyone else in the world, including “gay bowel disease,” an ailment that does not exist and is often used by religious right figures to paint gay men as diseased.

Another congressional candidate, St. Thomas University law professor Teresa Stanton Collett, who is running as a Republican for the 4th Congressional District, warned that Minnesota’s Christians are under attack.

“Make no mistake: Marriage, as a civil institution, as a legal institution, is grounded not merely in religion but also in the biological reality that sex makes children and children need a mom and a dad,” she said. “And should we choose to redefine that legally we will put the religious and moral beliefs of all Minnesotans at issue.”

“Churches and religiously affiliated institutions will lose their tax-exempt status,” she said. She claimed that Christian colleges would be forced to house same-sex couples in dorms, social work students would be kicked out of school if they refused to counsel gays and lesbians, politicians would revoke funds from religious organizations, and parents would be arrested for speaking out against homosexuality.

The hourlong testimony from both sides contemplated three bills: one to create civil unions, one to recognize out-of-state same-sex marriages and one to allow full legal marriage for same-sex couples. The hearing was for informational purposes only, and no vote was taken.

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T-Paw Is A Jerk
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 9:39 am

Why are these wing nuts even allowed to speak? We should pass a law that says hate speech like these two spew is outlawed and then put them in jail.

I am so tired of this crud, time to just take over the mic and shut them all down.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 9:50 am


Prove ignorant people like this wrong, please come sign the petition and help the fight for LBGT marriage.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 9:58 am

Where do people get these ideas? Wow. It’s disgusting to me that people are spewing false information to increase hatred and discrimination in today’s times. Absolutely disgusting. It must be exhausting carrying around that much angst and hatred.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 10:01 am

Frankly, if I ever took a course from Teresa Stanton Collett, I would want my tuition money back. It’s obvious she has no understanding of how discrimination laws work.

Allowing gay marriage will not force private parties to do anything, and no one is going to lose tax exempt status because of it. Laws against racial discrimination have not prevented the functioning of racist groups, laws against sex discrimination have not required Christian colleges to house different-sex couples if they don’t want to, and religious discrimination laws have not prevented the Catholic church from praying for the conversion of the Jews.

Sarah G.
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 10:04 am

My, my, my…how far the African American community has indeed come, to spawn a small minded bigot like white, as oppsed to people like like Coretta Scott King who understood civil rights and said the following:

“I still hear people say that I should not be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people. … But I hasten to remind them that Martin Luther King Jr. said, ‘Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.’ I appeal to everyone who believes in Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream, to make room at the table of brotherhood and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people.”

–Coretta Scott King

Shame on you Barb Davis White, shame on you!

Ambrose Charpentier
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 10:07 am

I heard Collett testify at a previous legislative hearing about GLBT issues. At that hearing she said in effect that the government needs to encourage heterosexual marriage in the US because we aren’t producing enough white babies. I kid you not. The audience laughed when she said it and Mary Liz Holberg (R-Hades), who was chairing the hearing, banged her gavel and threatened to throw out anybody in the audience who laughed. Then she called in security guards. Collett also wore a cowboy hat in the witness stand.

Randi Reitan
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 10:51 am

It is sad to see Rosa Park’s name used in such a vile statement. Barb Davis White should be ashamed. The rest of her testimony was also appalling.

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Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 12:21 pm

I was at that same committee hearing as Ambrose Charpentier; that hearing concerned MAMA, the infamous proposed Minnesota Anti-Marriage Amendment. It was ugly watching how so dismissive and at times derisive Ms. Holberg was while the MAMA opponents including Outfront Minnesota’s Ann DeGroot testified including strictly enforcing time limits, and then do a total about-face with the proponents including Teresa Stanton Collett, being so sickeningly sweet and at times unctuous in disposition and also generous with the time as they rambled on and on. It was even uglier watching Teresa speak as though her credentials lent absolute truth and certainty to her words. UFF DA!

Andy, I would have liked to read about the moving testimony offered by lesbian and gay families at this hearing.

Taylor Siluwé
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 12:25 pm

Well, it seems the black Tea Partiers are just as batsh*t crazy as their white counterparts. Barb apparently doesn’t see the karmic repercussions of throwing millions of Americans under the very bus she claims Rosa wasn’t making a stand for. Rosa stood, or rather sat, for justice.

Barb will soon find out what that means.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 1:05 pm

This African American female agrees with Coretta Scot King 100%. White is an embarrassment not only to AAs but to all Americans who respect the legacy of Rosa Parks and Dr. and Mrs. Martin Luther King.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 1:07 pm

***Coretta Scott King*** missed the last t

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 1:54 pm

OCEAN GROVE, N.J., September 19, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) announced on Monday that it was stripping the Methodist Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association of its tax-exempt status for part of its property. The Methodist camp made the news earlier this year after it refused, for religious reasons, to allow a lesbian couple to hold a “civil-union” ceremony at a pavilion on the camp’s property.


I love all people and could careless who is gay or why. I just don’t feel we should extend to them special rights. This may or may not be about assaulting the church but as the above article proves it will be the end result.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 2:31 pm

You know, the problem isn’t necessarily that these “comic relief” candidates are in politics. The problem is that people vote for them.

Straight Grandmother
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 2:51 pm

@ Steven, let’s put some sunshine to the subject. Your scare tactics fail the sunshine test!

A local advocacy group, “Ocean Grove United”[24], disputes this, contending that the issue involves public, not religious, property.[25] They contend that the beach and Boardwalk Pavilion are open to the public and that the Camp Meeting Association has accepted public funds for their maintenance and repairs. They also cite the Association’s application to the State of New Jersey for monies under the state’s “Green Acres Program”, which encourages the use of private property for public recreation and provides a $500,000 annual property tax exemption. In their application for these funds, the Camp Meeting Association reportedly stated that the disputed areas were open to the public. U.S. Representative Frank Pallone, Jr. (Democrat), in whose Congressional district Ocean Grove is located, stated “they’ve taken state, federal and local funds by representing that they are open to the public.”

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 3:09 pm

I am so tired of hearing the anti-gay-marriage argument that man plus woman plus sex = children, therefore gays and lesbians should not be allowed to marry because they can’t make children. Where does that leave all the heterosexual couples who are infertile, use assisted reproductive technology, choose to adopt children, or choose not to have children? By this argument, those couples should not be allowed to marry either.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 4:10 pm

Hard to fathom how one can go from the 10 Commandments to this?? Hate hiding behind religion. Another reason I despise organized religion. No one practices what they preach. Since when did “God” say, “Though shall inject thyself into thy neighbor’s living room or bedroom.” It would be a much simpler world if people could merely mind their own business.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 4:27 pm

Steven, why is marrying whom you please a “special right?”

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 4:52 pm

Yes, Steven, I would like to echo Randy’s question? Why is legal marriage a “special right”?

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 6:02 pm

People like these wingnuts are helping advance the cause for marriage equality, unintentionally of course. Their views are so odd, so distasteful and so generally bizarre that they repel mainstream people who might otherwise oppose marriage equality. So I guess I’ll take a moment to thank these two women, and others like them, for their efforts, however unintentional, to help society achieve marriage equality!

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 6:07 pm

And where did Minnesota find this bumper crop of wacky conservative women?? Michelle Bachmann, and these two nuts. You Minnesotans got any other cuckuoo clocks waiting in the wings??

David Strand
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 6:46 pm

As those of us who were in Washington DC at the GLBT Civil Rights March this past fall by Julian Bond of the NAACP, we don’t need to be asking who is the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. of the glbt rights movement is or will be because Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. WAS and IS the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. of the glbt rights movement. Dr. King and particularly Coretta Scott King were strong advocates of glbt rights AS civil rights and not an unrelated struggle to the movement for civil rights for all americans. They way they Martin stood by Bayard Rustin despite his many arrests due to his homosexuality, his history of even being imprisoned for Sodomy as well as being a pacifist. Bayard organzied the March on Washington where Martin gave his famous “I have a Dream…” speech and Martin insisted he not be sidelined despite him being a “notorious” homosexual, pacifist with a history of being a red setting off alarms in the FBI of the day.

Ben W.
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 7:04 pm

Well, I think a domestic partner bill is appropriate. I mean, why not? I think most people in MN would be okay with this. Put out a domestic partner bill that gives gays hospital visitation and tax rights.

I do NOT think most people in MN would approve of gay marriage. Because most people in MN aren’t okay with this, why not pass a domestic partner bill that gives gay couples some legal rights? Where does the opposition to this come from?

I’m not against gay marriage, but I don’t think most people in Minnesota want this. I do think they would be okay with a strong domestic partner bill.

Pawlenty would never sign it, but I think MN needs a good domestic partner law. It gives gay folks hospital visitation and leaves the definition of marriage alone.

So, what’s the issue? It seems obvious to me that this should pass.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 7:52 pm

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 4:27 pm
Steven, why is marrying whom you please a “special right?”

Currently, I as you have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. That is the current law in every state except where the courts have acted unlawfully in my opinion. Every state that has placed this on the ballot has voted it down.

So, I guess it’s a special right because the voters have said so.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 8:34 pm

Anybody else know the “Gay Cowboy Song” from Family Guy? I keep thinking of it every time I read something about gays and can’t stop laughing! Utube it, well worth it!!!

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 9:09 pm

As for domestic partnerships, civil unions, reciprocal benefits, “everything but marriage” laws and other such variations, full equality is still not achieved for same-sex couples who commit to each other and build stable lives for themselves and their families. Try googling on “domestic partnership “separate but equal”‘; a browse of some of the hits will quickly reveal the inequities in real life.

Given this, it is quite obvious to me that marriage laws should be gender-neutral.

Progressively Queer
Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 9:48 pm


“Currently, I as you have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. That is the current law in every state except where the courts have acted unlawfully in my opinion. Every state that has placed this on the ballot has voted it down.

So, I guess it’s a special right because the voters have said so.”


1. Stop with the bullsh*t. You know d@mn well that we’re not saying we don’t have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. Once upon a time, marriage meant something else. Today, however, marriage means spending the rest of your life with the person you love. A single look at the traditional wedding vows is enough to get rid of any notion that marriage is primarily or solely for procreation.

“I ‘X,’
Take you, ‘Y,’
To be my spouse,
To have and to hold,
From this day forward,
For better, for worse,
For richer, for poorer,
In sickness and in health,
To love and to cherish,
Till death do us part.”

Furthermore, there is no difference between saying: “Gays and Lesbians have the same right to marry people of the opposite sex as I do” and “Blacks and Whites have the same right to marry people of their own race as I do.” Both are discriminatory and prejudicial, and the Courts rightfully overturned them.

2. Obviously you haven’t heard of the recent LEGISLATIVE enactments of marriage equality in Vermont and New Hampshire. If I recall, the Legislature was elected by the public.

3. You think the Courts have acted unlawfully. Except the fact of the matter is that the Courts are in place to protect the rights of minorities when the Legislature or the Executive have overstepped their bounds. And the courts, in their best legal judgment, felt that the rights of LGBT American citizens have been trampled upon and therefore needed to be rectified.

4. Oh, well as long as the prejudiced majority voted on it, then it must be acceptable.

Why don’t we let the South vote on whether to accept African-Americans as human beings rather than property and see how that goes?

Yeah, I didn’t think so.


And despite all of this, you haven’t shown what is morally wrong with homosexuality. If you can’t show what is morally wrong with homosexuality, you have no clear reason to oppose marriage equality.

Thank you.

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 10:00 pm

From Wikipedia’s page on “Race and Genetics”: “The discovery that only 8% of this difference separates the major races led some scientists to proclaim that race is biologically meaningless.”

And from “thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=38″: “The Y chromosome is a tiny thing; it is about 59 million base pairs long and has only 78 genes. If we look at base pairs, the difference between men and women would be 59 million divided by 3.2 billion or about 1.8%. This translates to men and women being 98.2% the same.”

So a same sex couple of the same race is more closer to being the same than a hetero couple. Is this argument really going to boil down to a 1.2% difference?

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 10:01 pm

6.2% Difference?

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 10:25 pm

This is a free society and Gays, Lesbians, bi-, tri- or whatever sexuals have the right to cohabit with whomsoever they please. You have a moral and psychological sickenss, which can be cured. However, it would be be such a relief if YOU stopped trying to convince the rest of the world of your twisted, self-righteous morality!

Kyle Griffin
Comment posted February 24, 2010 @ 12:50 am


Someone supporting a tax-exempt organization by claiming a group shouldn’t have “special rights”? Now there’s irony! If you’re against special rights, then you should be happy organizations are being asked to pay taxes just like business, corporations, etc.

Fredric Markus
Comment posted February 24, 2010 @ 6:54 am

Media madness still rules. The most extreme and vindictive statements are aired, the least desireable image imaginable is prominently displayed, and the heartfelt testimony of perfectly fine, normal people is given short shrift. This is not my idea of responsible journalism and it certainly doesn’t speak well of the Minnesota Independent. Shoddy reporting, evident bias, and IMHO a serious demerit for this new “independent” media outlet.

Comment posted February 24, 2010 @ 10:54 am

steven, i’m not sure where you received such a poor understanding of the us constitution, but let me try to cure you of at least some of your ignorance. you say:

“…except where the courts have acted unlawfully in my opinion. So, I guess it’s a special right because the voters have said so.”

first off, the us is a CONSTITUTIONAL democracy, not a pure democracy (in which case everyone would vote on everything.) the founding fathers structured it specifically to balance the desires of the majority with the rights of minorities and the powerless. if your il-logic had been followed in the past, then interracial marriage would still be illegal, women would not have suffrage, and 12yo children would be working 80hr work weeks. but you don’t object to those “special rights.”
as for the courts acting “unlawfully”, every court decision to uphold lgbt rights has been to UPHOLD the law – in word and in spirit. you see, the founding fathers installed a series of checks and balances to ensure that lawmakers and the government actually adhered to both the word and the principles of the constitution.

i could go on and on, but i hope this has shed a little light into your dark dark corner.

ps as for the nj church, please do some research – in brief, they received tax breaks based on providing access to public property that they cared for. because the state of nj condones same-sex unions, they were, in fact, discriminating. nobody is forcing churches to perform unions against their beliefs, but the state has the right to curtail that church’s SPECIAL RIGHTS if they choose, like you, to be ignorant bigots.

Comment posted February 24, 2010 @ 12:42 pm

Well, Rosa Parks did NOT sit in the front of the bus for gay rights, did she? She did it for racial equality.


Marriage is between two people and god (religious based).

State sanctioning unions would be good enough, especially given the fact that most gays are not religious (I said most, certainly not all). Most gays I know are too smart for religion…sorry I digress…

As long as the legal rights are given for property rights and taxation, who cares – I mean really – if it is called marriage or not?

Still, as long as there are rethuglican neocons, there will be fights about this issue in the legislature.

Constitutionally, all people should be considered equal under the law. Until this happens, expect trouble.

Comment posted February 24, 2010 @ 1:02 pm

I do not believe this woman could possibly know what Rosa Parks felt about the civil rights struggles of other minority groups but Coretta Scott King is a strong supporter of gay rights, and denounced a constitutional ban on marriage. “Gay and lesbian people have families and their families should have legal protection… A constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages is a form of gay bashing and it would do nothing at all to protect traditional marriages.”

Her son, Martin Luther King III, supported gay rights efforts. As an organizer of the 40th anniversary commemoration of the 1963 March on Washington, King made LGBT groups were invited to participate.

I will trust that these 2 individuals have a much greater understanding of what the legacy of the Civil Rights movement Rosa Parks moved to the front of the bus for, and the Civil Right movement that King died for, should be, rather than this lady who refers to diseaes that do not exist, among her many other lies.

Comment posted February 25, 2010 @ 6:19 pm

For the sake of history, it should be said that Rosa Parks did not “move to the front of the bus” at all. In the famous incident that led to her arrest (which led to the Birmingham Bus Boycott), Ms. Parks was sitting in the front row of the “colored” section of the bus. The Birmingham rule was that if all the “white” seats were full, black passengers had to give up their seats to any new white passengers who got on the bus. So it was actually Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat in the rear portion of the bus that made civil rights history. She was not the first black person to be arrested in Montgomery for this same refusal, but she and her husband were dedicated civil rights activists with strong ties in the community, which resulted in the protests against her arrest.

Of course, after the boycott was won and the “color line” was eliminated on all buses, Ms. Parks presumably rode in the front of the bus, or wherever else she wanted to ride.

Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 2:47 am

“I would like to be remembered as a person who wanted to be free… so other people would be also free.” – Rosa Parks

other people… not other minorities or other negroes. i don’t pretend to know that rosa parks would support lgbt equality, but then again, i’m not invoking her name in my campaign of hate mongering. shame on you ms white.

some more outstanding pearls of wisdom from rosa parks. i pray the lord grants me even a fraction of the courage and wisdom of this amazing woman!
“I’m tired of being treated like a second-class citizen.”
“Each person must live their life as a model for others.”
“Why do you all push us around?”

Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 8:32 am


…each person in the united states who is not wealthy could utter these comments and they would be just as meaningful.

…you do not have to be gay to be treated improperly.

…or black

…or (fill in blank)

if you are POOR, you will be treated improperly. Period.

Keep crying to the masses. We feel your pain.

Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 8:02 pm

“Rosa Parks didn’t move to the front of the bus to support sodomy”

Say it Sister, say it LOUD!

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Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 2:24 pm

You’d still be at the back of the bus if it weren’t for BAYARD RUSTIN – the man behind MLK. Get an education people and get your head out of your @ss.

Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 3:13 pm

““Rosa Parks didn’t move to the front of the bus to support sodomy”

Say it Sister, say it LOUD!”

The first rule of politics:

Saying something LOUD is always more effective than saying something intelligent.

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Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 11:25 am

Clearly Ms. Davis White could do with a gay or two in her life, preferably one to advise her against the clown make up she favors.

Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 11:39 am

Don’t y’all think that Christian colleges are probably housing same-sex couples as we speak?

Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 12:25 pm

There are a few churches that recognize same-sex marriage. Why don’t they argue the issue that way? The constitution says they can’t discriminate against religion. If people who support same-sex point that out, people who are against same-sex marriage can’t say that it violates the sanctity of marriage. They won’t have a leg to stand on.

David in Houston
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 12:38 pm

“Allowing a black woman and a white man to marry does not change the definition of marriage.”

Umm… actually it DID. 60 years ago the definition of marriage was “a man and woman of the same race”. So, yeah, the definition of marriage WAS changed. She doesn’t even have enough common sense to understand that?

This woman is an embarrassment. You’d think as a woman AND an African-American, she’d be able to empathize with those that face social discrimination. Her callus bigotry is truly shocking. If she were to say these hateful things about the black community, the citizens would run her out of town.

Patricia Kayden
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 1:06 pm

Sad — not funny. Whether Blacks and gays are similar is irrelevant to the fact that gays deserve equal rights and are equal citizens to everyone else.

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Steve H
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 1:17 pm

… and millions of gay & Lesbian people didn’t march for racial equality to support nitwits like Barb “I got mine, screw the rest of you” White. Martin and Coretta King would have chopped this fool off at the ankles if she’d spouted such nonsense in their presence.

Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 1:28 pm

Let’s see… skin color is superficial, so whites and blacks should have equal rights. But men and women are VERY DIFFERENT — according to Ms. White — so… they don’t get equal rights?

Nothing like a homophobe free-associating out loud. They say the darnedest things!

Mary Smith
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 2:29 pm

Aunty Tom, wake up. The teabaggers will come for your children next.

Marriage is simply a lifestyle choice. What’s the fuss?

John Strong
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 3:18 pm

Is this another graduate from one of those politico-religionist law schools–you know, the ones that teach that our laws came from Leviticus instead of English Common Law?

Joe H
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 3:36 pm

Hmm weird, when I have sex it’s not with the intention of making babies. And last time I checked, you don’t need to be married to have two loving parents raising children. The retard is strong with these ones.

Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 4:06 pm

White on same-sex marriage: Rosa Parks didn’t ‘move to the front of the bus to support sodomy’

and Jesus didn’t die on the cross so that people could claim to use his teachings to deny people their humanity.

so nice to find Ms. White is so in touch with the agenda of the modern day Klan, she’s got their vote locked up.

Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 9:02 pm

What the hell is wrong with you people? While I haven’t lived in MN in some time, I was born there…we weren’t electing CRAZY RACISTS then. Get your act together or I’ll start telling people I’m from Buffalo.

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Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 11:54 pm

OK so it’s alright to make it illegal to discriminate against a person in the workplace because of Sexual Orientation (federal law), but it is OK to discriminate against them for that reason socially? I hate it when politicians pull religion into politics it is propaganda pure and simple. For a faith that promotes understanding and forgiveness for one’s sins the politicians make Christians out to be a hypocritical bunch. Additionally denying two people who are willing to Love, Honor, and Cherish one another the same rights based on their Sex is simply amoral under the founding principles of our country. Granted it’s not covered in the Constitution, but the Declaration of Independence clearly states:

“We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Now read that again, it says “endowed by their Creator” not “endowed by God”. Honestly if my Creator has no issue with people being discriminated against purely to serve a political end (gaining favor with voters), then I’m not so sure I want to ever meet him.

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 2:50 am

I wish some Minnesotan homosexuals would ‘water the tree of liberty’, y’knawmean?

Jan Merritt
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 8:12 am

This is so disheartening, to put it mildly. I live in SC; I expect this kind of ignorant garbage in my state. But I have always looked up to the long tradition of education and open-mindedness in Minnesota. Shame on you.

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 10:36 am

Steven: I ask you how that is “special rights.” If gay group opened a
public hall and refused Christians, they would be in the same boat.

You seem to argue that giving gays any form of legal equality is “special rights.” Heck the whole marriage argument is pretty much that … The absurd victimization syndrome where some heterosexuals feel opressed when they don’t have legal authority over the daily life of others. “You getting married when I don’t want you to is anti-Christian/hetero/etc bigotry”! And of course, the children, marriages, benefits/healthcare, survivalship rights, etc. of straights are absolutely not at any form of equal control/threat by gays. We are just talking about giving others what you already enjoy, and probably couldn’t imagine loosing.

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 2:01 pm

Actually, marriage is grounded in property rights. Before the idea of property existed, groups/tribes/etc simply took care of the children together. Once personal property existed, though, people started to want to take care of only what is theirs, so marriage was invented and the idea of sex before or outside of marriage became taboo.

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 2:16 pm

If Rosa Parks were alive today, she would tear Barb Davis White’s hair off her scalp. Is this woman serious? White doesn’t deserve the civil rights that her people have fought for. If that’s her take on ‘sodomy,’ then she should go back to living as a second class citizen in order to known what it’s like to be treated differently. Once she’s tired of leading her life as a second-class citizen, then maybe she will have the sufficient empathy in her heart to realize that it’s not up to the public to grant/deny civil rights, because those rights exist despite the public’s opinion.

“I’m tired of being treated like a second-class citizen.”
-Rosa Parks

Paul Schmelzer
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 4:30 pm

Commenters, please read over our comment policy. While you may disagree with Ms. White, you’ll have to refrain from name-calling if you’d like your comments published.


Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 5:17 pm

“Rosa Parks didn’t ‘move to the front of the bus to support sodomy’”
This reasoning means all the hetero’s who enjoy a little sodomy should be excluded from marriage as well.

Keith Walker
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 5:23 pm

SHAME SHAME SHAME on Barb Davis White for using her position as a politician to think she can judge others in this manner. God loves ALL of HIS children and LOVE has NO boundaries.

When two grown adults choose to love each other and are not afforded the same rights as ALL citizens, that is discrimination. Period. We are all American citizens and to not allow everyone equal rights is a violation of the Constitution. See how simple it is?

Put your prejudices aside, Barb, and look at it objectively, which is what you were elected to do.

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 5:59 pm

Steven- the key part of that law suit is the fact that the church allowed the general public to use it. “Until recently the camp held tax-exempt status on its entire boardwalk property under a New Jersey program that gives tax-breaks to organizations that open up their property to the general public.” You can’t “pick and choose” what part of the GENERAL public that you want to allow. You may pick and choose when you keep your property private.

I don’t understand why so many people have a problem understanding this simple difference.

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 6:03 pm

I am astounded by the ignorance of the comments made by this woman.

Linda Orosco
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 6:42 pm

It GAULS me that she uses Rosa Parks sitting at the front of the bus the way this so called Ms White did. I’m NOT EVEN black but color and the FRONT OF THE BUS have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER!!!!

Linda Orosco
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 6:46 pm

Rosa’s fight was for segregation NOT same sex marriage. As a PROUD MOTHER OF A GAY SON I will STAND WITH HIM AND EVERY OTHER AMERICAN that SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY WHOMEVER THEY WISH we DON’T support them so JUST HOW IN GOD’S NAME can we DICTATE TO THEM who they CAN AND CANNOT MARRY???? Shame on you to pass judgment on gay people I thought ONLY GOD could do that? So when Ms. White did you take OVER GOD’S JOB???????????????????…


Linda Orosco

astrid flowers
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 7:47 pm

How very ignorant of White.

She really needs to apologize for this.
How insulting to the family of Parks and
other Americans. If she hates this country
so badly maybe she should leave it and live somewhere
like Iraq where she would have no rights either.

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 7:53 pm

Rosa Parks never moved to the front of the bus… she stayed in her seat.

So technically, Miss White is correct.

Rosa Parks stayed in her seat for sodomy. GO ROSA!!!

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 9:08 pm

For f’sake. The MAJORITY of us will never accept your way of life. Build a bridge and get over it. I find it interesting that you CANNOT DISPUTE the facts presented. Thanks for playing along but you lose…. bu bye

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 10:18 pm

I love you, Linda Orosco… thank you for loving your son no matter what. My mom does too…she is my personal hero, as I’m sure you are to your son!

Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 10:32 pm


Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 4:46 am

proof positive that bigots come in all shapes and colors. (you’re included in that as well, dano — good work!)

the good part is that people of good will also come in all shapes and colors.

“Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood…. For too long, our nation has tolerated the insidious form of discrimination against this group of Americans, who have worked as hard as any other group, paid their taxes like everyone else, and yet have been denied equal protection under the law…. I believe that freedom and justice cannot be parceled out in pieces to suit political convenience. My husband, Martin Luther King, Jr. said, ‘Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.’ On another occasion he said, ‘I have worked too long and hard against segregated public accommodations to end up segregating my moral concern. Justice is indivisible.’ Like Martin, I don’t believe you can stand for freedom for one group of people and deny it to others.” — Coretta Scott King

Dave Mears
Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 2:17 pm

I’m not sure why the author felt the need to bold “Tea Party Activist,” “the GOP’s endorsed candidate”, and “religious right figures to paint gay men as diseased.” Bias showing much? The democrats, when it comes to actually voting on these issues, aren’t THAT much better than their rivals. If you really want change, stop looking to the democrats, who will throw you under a bus if it means getting some issue they care about passed, and start looking to individuals. There are people, both among those who count themselves part of the tea party, and among republicans, who want to help you. Just as there are democrats who are both for and against you. You probably feel it’s difficult to trust people who are part of a group who vilify and insult you. So do we. We can’t shut up the crazies on our side any more than you can yours, but that doesn’t stop the less crazy among us from having a dialog and working to change what we don’t like.

Paul Schmelzer
Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 2:40 pm

Dave. Welcome to the internet. The reason the words you mention are highlighted is because they’re hyperlinks; we like to show our work by linking to other stories that give context to the piece. What you call bias is actually us trying to be transparent.

Christian Mom
Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 3:07 pm

Someone asked for proof that homosexuality is sinful. In Deuteronomy, the Bible states that “a man who lies with another man as with a woman is accursed.” That seems pretty straightforward to me.

The definition of marriage that most Christians use, and which is read at most weddings, still, has to do with the story of Adam and Eve in Genesis Chapter two. God said that “it is not good for the man to be alone.” He created Eve from Adam’s rib. Afterward, He said, “Therefore a man shall leave his mother and cleave unto his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”

Jesus brings this up in talking to the Pharisees, who want to know if divorce is allowable. Jesus tells them that Moses allowed a man to divorce his wife with a written decree because people are weak. He repeats the definition of marriage from Genesis, and asks how one flesh can be separated. And he adds that other line so common in weddings, “Therefor, what God has joined together, let no one sunder.”

This is the moral basis that Christians base their objections to same sex marriage upon.

Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 3:40 pm

The traditional definition of marriage is NOT the union of a man and a woman. That would imply equality, you silly bigots. The traditional definition of marriage is the OWNERSHIP of a woman by a man, transferred from her father to her husband. This definition of marriage existed until women and men were legally considered equals, which did not happen until the last 200 years.

A few thousand years – Definition of marriage is ownership.
200 years – Definition of marriage is union of man and woman.
100 years – the amount of time ice cream cones have been in existence. Just to give some perspective…

Wow, what a longstanding tradition.

Melissa Lochamy
Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 4:26 pm

In reference to your comments about Rosa Parks: What an idiotic, disgusting thing to say. I guess you really can’t expect much more from a state that elects an ex-wrestler as their governor. You and your 248 fans-what a joke-should be ashamed of yourselves.

Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 5:20 pm

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 7:52 pm

Comment posted February 23, 2010 @ 4:27 pm
Steven, why is marrying whom you please a “special right?”

Currently, I as you have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. That is the current law in every state except where the courts have acted unlawfully in my opinion. Every state that has placed this on the ballot has voted it down.

So, I guess it’s a special right because the voters have said so.”

Ahem, I just want to point out to you that you committed a dire logical fallacy, be ashamed. You just argued that the reason a change is Law is a bad change in Law simply because people in some states voted it was a bad change in Law. Lets examine something: there were many cases that said blacks should have civil rights, that were swat down, before blacks received their civil rights. People said no at first because this was what they were accustom to, not because it was right.

You also tried to say that every state has voted down gay marriage RIGHT AFTER you said that some states allowed gay marriage. Examine this:

“That is the current law in every state except where the courts have acted unlawfully in my opinion. Every state that has placed this on the ballot has voted it down.”

Please take a class on arguementation, maybe then you’ll learn how weak the anti-gay marriage argument is.


There is a separation of church in state (in our constitution) So why does it even matter what the church thinks. Think about that for a minute.

Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 11:24 pm

How was this woman raised that she has such a warped view of equality? Everything she says flies in the face of everything the civil rights movement stood for. Is she actually this out of touch with reality? Such willful ignorance and bigotry staggers my mind. How can people sincerely believe that they are entitled to more rights than anyone else?

Jack donaldson
Comment posted March 4, 2010 @ 12:32 am

Gay folk and black civil rights are apples and oranges. Being gay is a life style decision, just like being straight is. Make no mistake about that. Being black and not being allowed to vote, go to certain schools and restaurants, get good jobs and oh yeah being hung by your neck in a F$%^ing tree is a civil rights issue and no comparison whatsoever.

Stop comparing the two, we live in a country where we decide what we want and as a whole we don’t want it…stop forcing the issue or leave the United States if you don’t like what “We the People” stand for. It’s not time yet for that.

Jeremiah Wright
Comment posted March 4, 2010 @ 7:29 am

They don’t even mention when she went on to describe the mechanics involved in anal sex. It played over and over on our radio stations here so texans could laugh at her. Here is the quote, “The man inserts his penis into another man’s anus. Now ask yurself, is this something I would want done to me?” end quote. I’m straight and I am ashamed that other straight men and women act so hatefully in response to this issue. I think it strikes a nerve with some that call themselves “straight” because it makes them wonder if they really are. What a silly ass thing to worry yourself over. I hope one day we can realize….”who cares”

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Comment posted March 4, 2010 @ 5:09 pm

Jack, I would love to hear you explain how one’s biological attraction to others is a “lifestyle decision”.

Flora | Coffee and Controversy
Comment posted March 5, 2010 @ 5:10 pm

This woman is ignorant. To be so lacking in compassion for fellow-human beings is really sad. And to reduce their desire for marriage to a sexual thing only, is more sad, and also ridiculous. It’s not about sex! The gay community can have sex! No one stops them. This is about EQUALITY. Ms. White should understand that. I’m not interested in representation from anyone who can’t get that basic distinction.

Tyler Rentfrow
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 11:46 am

I am a 17 year old student on the border of minnesota and the president of my high school G.S.A. does anyone else find Whites statement hypocritical after all we the LGBT community are fighting for the same rights the African-american community was during the civil rights movement, to be honest if we don’t deserve rights neither do they we are who we are we can not change our sexuality at will, and we are no different from anyone else. I am a gay teenager and I’m proud of it! We honestly shouldn’t be listening to the ranting hysterics of opposing veiws just because they don’t agree with the LGBT lifestyle, nor should they be making up false statistics about it. Personally if you arn’t gay what does it matter if LGBT’s get married or not it doesn’t affect you or your life unless you make it. . . which is exactly what is going on know! Think about it I have more common sense and maturity than most of these high-up government officals that have been in office how long? Think about it!

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Comment posted April 26, 2010 @ 4:06 pm

I totally agree with Tyler on this one, people are people and we all should just get along. Besides, the church had nothing to with marriage until a thousand years ago when the Catholic church (after the fall of the Roman empire) decided that marraige was a sacred sacrement. I understand if people find it unnatural for same sex people to be together again people are people but what gets me angry really is when narrow minded anti-gay activists start blablling but have no idea what their talking about and are just talking out of hate. What reallyt made me mad was one of the comments that White said “gay males have more STD’s than any body because they sleep with 100′s of people”!?!? Ok, just because your a homosexual does not make you a professional prostitute! And to make fun of STD’s is just wrong is soooo many number of ways. If this is true where the hell is the precentage where’s the madical status on this stuff? I want numbers! And sorry about my comment on prostitute’s its just a profession and you are a person as well who is a master or the fields of pleasure. Also that whole fake disease thing? Whats up with that? If your a person of a high status in the court or whatev why would you mention something like that? It only makes you look stupid. I am a 17 year old girl and i think that Whites doesn’t know what she is talking about and that people should have the right to be together. Back around before the civil war it was ilegal in some states for blacks to even get married yet they do now and it hasn’t changed marriage at all. Think about it!

Naomi L.
Comment posted May 25, 2010 @ 3:01 am

This is for Christians and non-Christians alike:

In John 13:34, Jesus commands us to love one another as he has loved us. >>IT’S THAT SIMPLE.<<

Proverbs 3:5-6 – Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not into your own understanding; In all your ways, acknowledge Him and He shall direct your path

Discrimination is a two-way street, and so is love. Why do we discriminate more than we love? I am a Christian, and I have been taught that homosexuals are not/ can't be Christians, but I do not believe that.

I believe that everyone has his or her own struggle, and we should be helping build one another up, instead of helping break one another down.

Before I run on too long, I urge you to think of others as a fellow inhabitant of this earth. For society's sake, it makes more sense for men to be with women in order to procreate, but I am not God and I will not judge. I think marriage should be between a man and a woman as ordained by the LORD, and that is MY opinion!! To each his own [opinion].

Even Jesus chilled with the society-labeled "lowliest" of the community, so let's follow his example and work to improve this world. There are bigger problems out there, honey!

A wise man once said that all men [and women :) ]were created equal…

God bless :)

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