Marrying someone of a different race has absolutely nothing to do with the gay marriage issue.

I think the homosexual cause has been hijacked by reactionary nihilists who are out to destroy America once and for all. Moral relativism is joke. Tattooed freaks are well, tattooed freaks. UFC watching barbarians are well, barbarians. Anything does not, and should not go.

That said, I am fine with any religious organization that wants to marry gays to marry them. I am fine with civil union benefits for committed homosexuals. It is clearly the right of gay couples to consider themselves married. The question is whether there is a constitutional right for gays to receive society’s stamp of approval about their being married.

I think they are going to be out of luck when this goes to the Supreme Court. There is no right to a status for which they are ineligible. My aunt would be my uncle if she had balls, but she doesnt.

The August 2010 ruling in California is preposterous as apparently it is based on the premise that men and women are interchangable. Although the uber-liberals love this, the simple fact of the matter is that he is sorely mistaken. Gender exists, and it remains relevant.

Betty Friedan will unquestionably go down as one of the worst human beings to ever live. The notion that motherhood isn’t the paramount role of women is unbelievable destructive to the value of human life and the sustainability of our culture and civilization.

Cultural change has consequences, and we are duty bound to take care of our planet and our civilization while we pass through this world. The past 50 years has been an utter failure.

Government should have no role in any marriage matters, gay or straight. We’re all adults. Mind your business and I’ll mind mine.

I understand that you are trying to create a parallel in relation to how you feel being asked to accept gays. However, that isn’t what is being asked. Nobody is saying that you personally have to like gays. What is being said is that under our legal system, gays should be afforded the same rights that straights are in relation to marriage. If you were to come to the gay community they would agree with you that pedophilia should not be accepted in our society BECAUSE this causes irreperable harm to the non-consenting, non-legal-age children they accost. This is not an opinion or a moral view. This is cold hard fact. There is scientifically documented harm. This is why we do not allow pedophiles to accost children.

This type of harm is not present when we look at gays. Also, Gay families do not cause this type of harm. That is why gays ARE allowed to freely associate, they are allowed to be together, and their personal conduct in their homes is nobody else’s business under the law. All of these are facts. When Gays marry, they are marrying consenting adults. This difference is crucial. This isn’t about subjective morals or ethics. There are scientific studies from reputable sources that have shown how gay families raise healthy, well-adjusted children the same as straight families do. Studies also show that gays are perfectly normal folk, who live perfectly normal lives and also how having marriage DOES, in fact, increase the stability of the couple through a variety of means. ( I will, once again, point you to read through the transcripts on the Perry v. Schwarzenegger case where they talk about these benefits at length with testimony from expert witnesses.)

Gay families are not being given special privileges by being allowed to marry, as someone else pointed out. It is actually straight families who are being given special privileges above gay families. Claiming they can procreate for the reason is highly inaccurate since procreation is not a requirement for marriage and also because gay families have children and raise children just like straight families do. There is definitely more in common than not in common between these family types and if you look at the case from a legal perspective, there is no decent reason not to treat gay families equally under the law.

To move to your other point, discrimination based on people being gay will not be allowed in this country. That’s a fact. We have anti-discrimination laws and they will be enforced, just as they are enforced against people who dislike folks of other races or other genders. However, our protections for free speech are incredibly strong in this country. Your church will retain its ability to proclaim that all gays are going to hell and you will retain your ability to say you dislike gays and you think they just aren’t going about things the right way, just as you have the right to say so about people of different races, creeds, religions, genders, etc. But you can’t deprive people of equal rights based upon your own opinion or personal moral views. You have to have provable facts for depriving people of equal rights. The facts favor allowing gays equal protection.

To the person who claimed that the same protections can be created through legal documents, I’d like to point at that you are wrong on this matter. Not everything can be fixed through separate legal papers and those things that can have less weight to them when contested in court than marriage does. [ For example, civil unions tend to get slammed in court and twisted because they don't have the case precedent giving them heft the same way that a legally bindable marriage does.] Also, expecting gays to pay thousands more to gain the same rights that straight families gain for a couple hundred dollars winds up being socio-economic discrimination. There are plenty of poor gay families just as there are plenty of poor straight families.

But let me tell you, no gay person would ever, ever, EVER choose it. That notion defies all logic. That’s like choosing to be blind. Why choose something that makes life so much harder? Gay teens attempt suicide at vastly higher rates because of the hell they know they are in for being gay in a predominantly straight world. If you really want to believe that people chose it, then you are obtuse beyond help.

I suspect it is a belief you hold on to because it’s a support beam holding up your other beliefs about gay people. “They chose it, therefore whatever issues they have are their own fault. They must deal with the consequences of their choice.”

Only, it is not a choice.

I’d like to leave you with a quote from Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP:

“When someone asks me, ‘Are gay rights civil rights?’ My answer is always, ‘Of course they are.’ Civil rights are positive legal prerogatives. The right to equal treatment before the law. These are the rights shared by everyone. There is no one in the United States who does not or should not enjoy or share in enjoying these rights. Gay and lesbian rights are not special rights in any way. It isn’t special to be free from discrimination.”

Follow the constitution. It says NOTHING about marriage, who can, who cannot. Do not dabble into the constitution to instill YOUR morals upon ME. Keep your laws off my humanity.

Again, people, you simply cannot legislate MORALS.
(Although I realize there are those tyrants who would try.)

And those who try, simply fail to realize that we are all we have, and we should be tolerant of each others weaknesses and strengths as best we can. You don’t have to like me (hell, I probably don’t like YOU). But you DO have to respect my privacy, my humanity, and my own meandering spirit.

Personally, I cannot hardly believe there are so manyn gays wanting to marry, when a social contract would do the same thing.

Marriage is, after all, supposedly between you, your mate, and god. The state only recognizes the union as a contract. Why gays want marriage is beyond my understanding. Most gays I know are smarter than that.

Again, civil marriage is a civil right under our legal system. It is WRONG to deny this to loving, committed same-sex couples. Matter of fact, we in the gay community feel that until this injustice is corrected, it is the straight married couple that is actually receiving special privileges.

When the CA Supreme Court legalized interracial marriage in 1948, 90% of Americans opposed it. By 1958, the number had increased and 94%. In 1967, when the U.S. Supreme Court legalized marriage equality for interracial couples on a nationwide level, 72% still opposed it. It wasn’t until 1994 that these people were in the minority for the first time with 41% opposing and 45% approving.

Thank God we have a constitution and a judicial branch of government to set us right when we make mistakes.

Sources:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/28417/most-americans-approve-interracial-marriages.aspx
1948 figure from Gail Mathabane, “Gays face same battle interracial couples fought,” USA Today, 2004-JAN-25.