MSNBC takes on Bachmann, Palin
Thursday, April 08, 2010 at 11:59 am
Immediately following yesterday’s rally with Rep. Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin, two MSNBC hosts targeted the conservative duo. Minnesota-based host Ed Schultz brought on Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak and Bachmann’s opponent, Sen. Tarryl Clark, to respond to the event. Chris Matthews spoke with conservative commentator Pat Buchanan, who seemed perplexed by Bachmann’s claim that President Obama won’t nuke a country that commits a “cyber-attack” against the United States.
“They are great theater,” Rybak said of Bachmann and Palin, comparing them to other Minneapolis greats such as Prince and Bob Dylan. “I’m so glad Sarah Palin came here to bring Gov. Pawlenty back home” from his busy campaign travels.
Here’s the full exchange with Ed Schultz:
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Meanwhile, on Chris Matthews’ show, Pat Buchanan laughed off Bachmann’s suggestion that the United States should drop nuclear weapons in response to cyber-attacks.
Bachmann said on Wednesday:
“And then earlier this week, we found out that the president said that he was going to change the United States’ strategy on dealing with nuclear weaponry. Did this shock everyone? So, if in fact there is a nation who is compliant with all the rules ahead of time and then complied with the United Nations on nuclear proliferation, if they fire against the United States, a biological weapon, a chemical weapon, or maybe a cyber-attack — well, then we weren’t going to be firing back with nuclear weapons.”
Here’s Matthews’ and Buchanan’s exchange:
Matthews: How about the cyber-attack part of this?
Buchanan: Look, to have a cyber-attack you need a nuclear weapon on the other side because a cyber-attack…
I mean… the top… you mean the east…
Matthews: She was saying that if we get hit with a cyber-attack we should strike back with nuclear…
Buchanan: Well I see, you mean just computers. Do they mean computers?
Matthews: Yeah, that’s what she means.
Buchanan: or the attack in the atmosphere which?…
Matthews: No, no, no. She’s talking about cyber-attack.
Buchanan: If they hack into your computer?
Matthews: If something is happening to our computer system, we just strike with nuclear weapons.
Buchanan: I don’t think I’d strike with nuclear weapons if they hacked into my computer, no. (laughs)
7 Comments
Comment posted April 8, 2010 @ 4:12 pm
Bachmann seems not to know what a cyber-attack is but it sounds like a threatening buzzword. Buchanan clearly didn’t know either. Yet these are the people who want to be in charge of national defense.
Comment posted April 8, 2010 @ 8:53 pm
A cyber attack can be used against a nuclear power plant or even potentially to launch nuclear weapons.
Comment posted April 9, 2010 @ 1:37 am
No …A cyber attack could never launch our nuclear weapons…The systems we have are not controlled by computers( Even the internal systems at each plant are not linked) …Everything is manual…I should know my father help to build the systems…Tell the truth…Do not fall for fear. Stop watching movies.
Comment posted April 9, 2010 @ 4:18 am
What shocked me was how many new ways Bush43 came up with to justify using tactical nukes. Thank God Obama reigned that insanity back in!
I do not know that nuclear weapons can be launched by a cyber-attack, but the power grid is demonstrably vulnerable. The problem is that the power grid is in the hands of the private sector, and they are not responsible for national security. There is no profit in investing in firewalls and other cyber-security measures.
Comment posted April 9, 2010 @ 9:07 am
>>> There is no profit in investing in firewalls and other >>> cyber-security measures.
Are you suggesting that only governments buy firewalls?
Comment posted April 9, 2010 @ 11:49 pm
“Are you suggesting that only governments buy firewalls?”
Heck no! I am saying that the companies that *should* be installing firewalls *won’t* because it costs money with no financial return. There is more to it than just firewalls, but I do not remember the details.
The vulnerability is in the private sector, but the responsibility is with the government. Free markets vs national security.
Comment posted April 10, 2010 @ 11:24 pm
Corporations install firewalls and every other security measure precisely to protect profits. Coma inducing regulation is the ONLY reason profit oriented firms would be slack with security.
Incumbent inertia and possibly ACORN style election fraud negate what little moral foundation there is in government. Mafia on steroids.
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