Is AZ immigration law ‘misguided’? Minnesota GOPers say, ‘No way, Jose!’

Of course, there’s no veiled racism behind the “Si, señor!” and “No way, José!” options. Heck, they probably will tell you that they didn’t know these were Latino names. Or it was just a joke. Or it was a low-level staff member doing it on his own. Or they won’t reply, but the poll will be scrubbed from their website.

It should never have gotten to this point to begin with. The Federal government looks the other way in hopes of completing the “North American Union.” Americans have vociferously called for legal, documented, controlled immigration, only to be ignored yet again by Washington. However, this law is indeed nothing to address what people are calling for, and it does infringe upon everyones’ rights. Get pulled over for no reason? “Oh, I thought you were an illegal.” Kind of like in Minnesota, “Oh, I thought you weren’t wearing your seat belt.”

That said, how fast is Arizona going to be looking (ironically) to the FEDS to help fund their new immigration policy? Are their local police (and taxpayers) going to dive down this budgetary wormhole on their own? The right wing, once again, spending to “save” money. Their “fiscal conservatism” is a joke.

Heh. The poll has now been pharyngulated.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/shall_we_mess_up_a_local_repub.php

Hey, if the Republicans want to alienate the fastest growing segment of our population (i.e., Latinos), the Democratic party will be happy to accept those votes.

How come the GOP won’t go after the businesses who hire the illegals? They had eight years to do something at the federal level, but did nothing.

How come harassing Latino-looking Americans is preferable?

Short answer: GOP core racism coupled with disdain for the economically disadvantaged. It’s much easier to scapegoat poor brown people, especially if they’re not citizens, but they’ll throw citizens under the bus, too, if necessary (see Arizona). What the GOP won’t do is attack businesses. The Republicans know full well how much industry in this country is dependent upon undocumented immigrants for labor.

It’s kind of like how the GOP constantly attacks Roe v. Wade, but hasn’t really worked to repeal it in almost 30 years. As an issue, they can use it to rile people up and get votes and donations. Illegal immigration provides the same purpose. A solution in the Republicans’ favor would actually do the party more harm than good (again, see Arizona).

Blatant unmitigated,unadulterated RACISM plain and simple.More than likely,one of the nations more ardent supporters would be none other than sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County.I thought the nation of TEXASS was bad.Maybe those two weirdo states could form their own country and we could breathe a sigh of relief!

As a capitalist I favor having illegals in the country picking lettuce for 25 cents an hour. Problem is medical and welfare benefits as well as illegals voting.

A partial solution is to go after Mexican gangsters which I think the Arizona law is designed for. Even lefties would agree that gang members are a net negative despite their ostensible tendency to vote DFL.

“A partial solution is to go after Mexican gangsters which I think the Arizona law is designed for. ”

That would be interesting to see if there was any reality behind it. Sounds like something some overpaid idiot on the radio might have come up with.

I know i’d be suing if, as a sixth generation American, I was asked to prove it with documents for just driving to work too close to a cop with too much time on his hands.

I’ve got Mayflower blood, but I sure as hell would never consider suing the government. Nor would I put my head in a buzzsaw. The outcomes would be similar.

The new law is quite reasonable for a police state or authoritarian regime. What happened to “The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”? Hispanics need not apply?

Why didn’t they just use the AZ National Guard to patrol the border, if they are unhappy with the federal efforts? Would have made the point, wouldn’t it?

Do all you supporters really think it is right to make natural born, American born citizens carry around their birth certificates everywhere? that stuff should be locked in a fire proof safe at home.

“Problem is medical and welfare benefits as well as illegals voting.”

Illegal immigrants cannot get welfare or medicaid…you have to be a citizen or resident alien.

Undocumented Immigrants don’t vote. To think undocumented immigrants vote you have to be seriously mentally unstable. Undocumented immigrants stay as far away as possible from anything that might get them deported, like trying to register to vote.

Check out the newly revised version of the stupid poll. It looks like the Republicans in SD42 believe that the only way to vote for their beliefs is to have two yes answers.

Pathetic.

If Kathleen Soliah can vote any illegal can too; ACORN will find a way. And if you think they don’t get welfare and free healthcare, well you must have your head stuck in a badger hole.

Jimmy, I know you’re a troll, so I’m not really going to get all worked up about your wrongheaded assertion that illegal immigrants are on the dole…BUT, the free health care that they get is due to going to ER’s and not being able to pay. And I can assure you, if someone is undocumented, the ER is the last resort due to fear of their status being found out. That bill gets written off as bad debt by the hospital. Short of welfare/Medicaid fraud, illegals CANNOT qualify for state aid. They are not citizens. If you are so concerned with welfare fraud, I suggest you call up Timmy and ask him to properly fund DHS so that they can effectively investigate these mythical cases you’re so certain about.

Your attack really hurts my feelings. Perhaps Franken can introduce legislation that will make me feel better about myself.

I’m afraid Timmy wouldn’t agree with me that state welfare should be banned and ERs should be allowed to put non-paying customers on the curb to die.

I may be lonely and I may be a troll but I am also RIGHT.

Right about what? That you’re a lonely Troll? No argument from me on that.

My grandfather left Russia, and my father and mother both fought in WWII so that I would not have to live with producing identity documents because of my heritage. As a country that presents itself as the defender of freedom this legislation is a contradiction. Blaming the poor who cross the border to work and be with loved ones is a cheap shot that will contribute to the political polarization. Picking an ethnic group to victimize is a tactic of a group that plans to legitimize oppression as a way to solve it’s economic struggle and foment the poor, pitting scared disadvantaged peoples against one another while dismantling the true voice of the people

It’s the duty of the government to oppress illegal aliens. The fact that Arizona has a problem with illegal aliens from Mexico means the government will be oppressing persons with a common ethnic background, if they do their job.

I’m surprised by the outrage expressed by some Hispanics over Arizona’s attempt to deal with their crisis. You’d think legal immigrants would be sympathetic to the problem and even accept some inconvenience to help out. But you’d think legal immigrants would learn to speak English, for the same reason, which we know not all of them do. My ancestors did.

We are not talking about illegal aliens being detained and deported.The problem I have with this law is that people with MAYFLOWER BLOOD are being subjected to unwarranted scrutiny and detainment.ALL I WANT IS YOUR PAPERS!!SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!!SEIG HEIL!!!!

I show my papers all the time. Cop pulls me over because there’s a clear plastic cover on the rear license plate. Driver’s license and proof of insurance. Coming home from overseas: show passport at immigration. Write a check and I need a driver’s license.

Once in a while I forget to bring my driver’s license on my commute. First thing I think is “What if I get pulled over?” As a tea partier maybe I should be outraged but since conservatives are slow to play the victim, it doesn’t occur to me.

A drivers license does not qualify as proof of citizenship. If it did the American born Hispanic trucker would not have been handcuffed and detained in AZ because he could only show his license and social security card like most of us carry. Who knew that Hispanic Americans will need passports to travel to AZ? And who thinks every American even has a passport?

Glynis,
“A representative at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) returned 3TV’s calls after researching the incident and she said this was standard operating procedure.

The agents needed to verify Abdon was in the country legally and it is not uncommon to ask for someone’s birth certificate. She also said this has nothing to do with the proposed bill or racial profiling.”
http://www.azfamily.com/video/featured-videos/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html

This was a convenient time for this “discrimination” to show up don’t you think? I have a commercial drivers license in Arizona and it’s a hassle to be a commercial driver no matter what color you are. This is how government helps the public by especially watching commercial trucking and trying to keep it safe. If you still think I am “misguided” on this then I would have to say that the FEDERAL I.C.E. representative would know more about what the situation was than I do and they would be VERY carefull not to discriminate for fear of profiling these days.
This is also the problem with peoples perception of this bill. People fear what MIGHT happen but when it comes to why that terrorist or drug smuggler wasn’t stopped or that rancher was killed or that deputy shot we all want to nail the person that ALLOWED it to happen to the cross when in fact we are the ones responsible. We did not give the power to those who ENFORCE the laws to reduce the threat.

>> A drivers license does not qualify as proof of citizenship.

What moron decided THAT was a good idea?

This is a prime example of why many average Americans think people making the rules are just PLAIN NUTZ.