Bachmann hits Clark on spending vote

Tarryl’s vote was the right thing to do in order to balance the budget. Bachmann doesn’t like the tax increase because her income is in the top 3% of wage earners. Bachmann lies when she states that lower income families and small businesses will be hurt. It’s just the same old lyin’ Michele……

What has Bachmann done for our district in 4 years? NOTHING!

Can someone tell me how raising taxes on the wealthiest Minnesotans will affect “40,000 small businesses?” How many of these wealthy Minnesotans are “job creators?” How many of them sit around and collect stock dividends and count their trust fund balance all day.

I’d much rather have (and be) a “tax and spend Liberal” than a “tax cuts for the rich and spend all of it and more on our oil/energy and banking pals Republican.”

The overall tax burden [local, state and federal] is, at just over 9%, the LOWEST it’s been since 1950. All the while, our deficit, thanks to Bush and the Republicans, has skyrocketed.

Maybe we’re not taxing enough?

Tax bracket is not the same thing as tax burden. You’d think a tax attorney would know that…

the State of Mn and Tarryl Clark labor under a balanced-budget straightjacket that the feds and Michele Bachmann don’t.

with increased income inequality comes the realization that the rich are increasingly where the money is, from a tax revenue perspective

Michelle Bachmann should be voted out. She never knows what she is talking about, never gets the facts correct. Minnesota needs to bring revenue in instead of cutting more programs that benefit the people. The reason Pawlenty and Bachmann think it is wrong to raise taxes on the rich is because they are in that bracket and don’t want to pay it themselves. They always campaign on No Taxes and pride themselves of it, but they don’t care about all the people they hurt. And by the way how is it going to hurt small business?! Once again the scare tactics!

>>> Minnesota needs to bring revenue in

It’s poetic justice that raising tax rates results in lower revenues. If Minnesota wanted more revenue they would create a healthy business environment to foster industry and therefore the tax base. Instead they bitch slap companies, small business owners, and working class citizens until they leave the State.

The democrites jacked tax rates last year and lo and behold an enormous deficit. If they weren’t so stupid I’d guess they did it on purpose.

“It’s poetic justice that raising tax rates results in lower revenues.”

“poetic justice” must be conservativese for “myth”.

You know about myths Jimmy, like “The democrites jacked tax rates last year…” No, they cut them as part of the stimulus. Remember the stimulus? The thing that seems to have restored the private job market?

“Can someone tell me how raising taxes on the wealthiest Minnesotans will affect “40,000 small businesses?” How many of these wealthy Minnesotans are “job creators?” How many of them sit around and collect stock dividends and count their trust fund balance all day.”

Level of ignorant jealousies and class war is repugnant.
Small business owners often as not report business income on personal return. That’s how struggling business ends up “wealthiest” Minnesotans… and likely have nothing left over for stocks and trust funds. On the other hand, even if they did, what entitles your sorry butt to their hard work? A lot of pathetic whiners here.

What makes small business owners untouchable? If they have income in the top bracket, then they should pay taxes on it. If they are using that money to create jobs, it’s no longer income to them, it’s an expense for their business. It’s a myth that all rich people are job creators. It’s more of the “trickle-down” nonsense that got us in this place in the first place.

Peacenic, you’re not making a distinction between revenue and take home pay. If they have $200,000 in personal income, that’s AFTER paying payroll, rent, etc., and in that case they definitely qualify as wealthy. If they have revenue of $200,000, and take their profits as personal income, their income will be less than $200,000. It might be nothing, in which case they won’t pay income taxes.

The democrites passed a tax increase in 2008 which I presume took effect in 2009. Either way it coincided with the recession and therefore goes against all economic theories (except Marxism).

The sales tax was also raised in 2009.

Many people are suffering income reductions and the government is demanding tax increases on top of that. Even just the threat of tax increases reminds people that other states are less punishing and in other ways more attractive. Many leave and take their toys with them.

The state legislature hasn’t increased taxes for 7 years. Pawlenty has vetoed every tax increase proposed. He passed some of the burnden on to the cities and was fine with letting our infrastructure crumble.

That’s wrong. Pawlenty’s veto was overridden in 2008 when the State raised taxes some $6B.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/15942557.html

And the sales tax increased in 2009:

http://www.taxes.state.mn.us/taxes/sales/tax_information/content/general_rate_increase.shtml

“ensuring that Minnesotans have the tools they need to succeed”

What tools? If she has done anything but biatch and obstruct, it is a well-kept secret.

Bachmann has a record of making speeches and missing votes, not to mention lies, prejudice, and misrepresentations.

By all means lets not burden well-off people or *any* small businesses with taxes, or customers. Leave it to them to create their own customer base by hiring workers and paying a good wage. That’ll work. Yeppers.

Jimmy,

Get your facts straight. Minnesotans voted for the sales tax increase – not the legislature.

Hi. Just wanted to explain my reasoning here on some key issues.
First of all, increasing taxes will not make things better but worse. Government has a funny way of never being satisfied with the funds it receives. There is always another program and another project. Do I wish we could all have free health care, great education, beautiful parks and nature everywhere? Sure. The only problem is that it’s not realistic. It’s like wishing I had a nicer home, a bigger workspace in the garage, more time off and so on without increasing my income. They’re all great but I can’t have them if I can’t pay for them. Just throw it on the credit card, right? Too many people appear to think that there is just a lot of money lying around unspent. We’re in debt, huge debt. Slowly becoming owned by our foreign enemies and if they decide to pull the plug on our funds, we will be in huge economical crises. Look at the strongest economies in the country: Texas, South Dakota, Wyoming, Oklahoma. Guess what their income taxes are? None! Look at California, Rhode Island, Oregon. Barely making it, huge taxes and huge unemployment. Surprised? The more you tax, the more businesses leave. The less businesses, the more unemployment. See for yourself:
Unemployment – http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm
Taxes – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_income_tax
Tax the rich? They won’t let you. They’ll just leave. California is suffering hugely for one reasons. The high taxes and impossible environmental regulations are driving all businesses out. Don’t do that to Minnesota.
Big government is a bad idea. Jefferson though so and I tend to agree. If you had a big job to do and had ten people to help, would you really make four or five of them managers? No, of course not. Managers are necessary in low numbers but they don’t produce so there has to be a limit. The less you can do with, the better.
Health care bill – repeal it. I’ve lived in a country with national health care. It makes the best doctors leave. They simply don’t get rewarded enough for their efforts. Everything else becomes corrupt because the government can’t pay for the best medical practices for everyone. It sounds good but it never works. We’ve got too many other things going wrong to try to fix health care when it’s working. Maybe not as efficiently as it could but it works. Medicaid is almost bankrupt and Obama just added millions of people to it. It makes no sense. We don’t have the money – it’s that simple.
I would vote for Tom Emmer and Michele Bachmann because I find them most likely to vote along these lines. Weather I like them or not doesn’t matter. We need to get our government under control. If they don’t follow through on what they say, lets yank them out as soon as possible. But for now, I see them acting in accordance with what they said they would do.
Thanks for hearing me out.