Poll: More Minnesotans oppose tea party than support it

>>> A Juxtaposition

The ORIGINAL Tea Party Movement (circa 1773):

Protested a Multi-National Corporation (The British East India Company) from passing a corporate tax onto the American consumer while British East India received a corporate tax break..

RESULT >> Masses of Americans rallied by dumping tea into the ocean and boycotting British Tea..

Today’s Tea Party Movement (circa 2010):

Protest Corporate Taxes and Less Government Oversight.

RESULT >> A Massive British Corporation (British Petroleum) dumps BILLIONS of Gallons of Crude Oil in the ocean..

I swear you cant make this Sh!t up.. It’s all true >> Unfortunately..

If you’re a leftist, all you can do is hang your hopes on 26% versus 20%. Might want to set your expectations a bit lower, going forward.

Surprised Jimmy/Rudy/Raymond took so long to post a comment on this. Must be the shock of the reality check re: how the mainstream views the tea bagger movement …

Jimmy!! I am NOT a leftist.. Just a realist.. You’re an idiot if you think George W was a great man and British Petroleum is a great company..

>>>> You’re an idiot if you think George W was a great man and British Petroleum is a great company..

Like most people and companies they have good and bad aspects. Bush did some great things and some really bad things. We’d probably agree on that, but not on what those things were.

>>>> how the mainstream views the tea bagger movement

Even if the polling were done by an unbiased pollster, neither 26% nor 20% can be logically deemed “the mainstream”.

Jimmy/Rudy/Raymond, all three of you probably missed this:

“50 percent of Minnesotans say the tea party movement does not reflect the views of Americans”

If that isn’t “mainstream” enough at this point in time, what is?

Thanx for keeping us on topic Lane..

Jimmy~~ Today’s Tea Party movement is funded by Dick Armey and William Koch and is perpetuated The Fox “Palin” News Network.. It’s a Sham movement that rallies up a bunch of schlubs and tries to convince Americans that deficit spending is the Dems fault..In reality Reaganomics/Clintonomics has come peck our eyeballs out.

Lane, I’m a bit disappointed in you. I think you’re misinterpreting that particular question in the poll. Given the dildos Americans have been electing lately, I’m not sure I disagree with either answer.

The key figure is 20 in favor, 26 against, and the remainder undecided. Since the democrites will refuse to fix the economy, it’s very obvious which column will dominate by election time.

Marcus! You’re starting to talk like one of us Baggers. It wasn’t Clinton or Reagan. It goes to FDR and even further. Tea Baggers are about cutting government so free people can bring back prosperity and sound financial conditions. Turns out democrites are incapable of this. But so are many RINOs.

Obviously Jimmy is looking at this from the support/oppose (black/white) standpoint whereas I am looking at this from the perception (shades of gray) standpoint …

I perceive from this blurb that the majority of Minnesotans either has no opinion of the tea bagger movement or feel that this movement is not reflective of Americans’ views. No more no less.

Two thirds want smaller government. That’s pretty much sums it all up. The vast majority are in the bag, the tea bag that is.

Jimmy.. FDR was probably the best president this country ever had.. Americans loved him. He put the corporate leaches in their place and got us in and out of WWII and Hoovers Great Depression.. We need another FDR today.. This assault on the middle class was launched by Reagan .. Every president following Reagan got worse and worse and now all of our good jobs in CHINA/India and we’re sucking on fumes.. I would put much more faith in government oversight rather then Corporate Anarchy..

Americans loved FDR so much they passed the 22nd Amendment. The assault on the American people began before him but that POS was the most vile commie bastard of the early 20th. He birthed the entitlement disease and American Capitalism has pulled us through til now in spite of his political diarrhea and economic anti-science.

Jimmy~

The 22nd Amendment was passed in the Truman Presidency and the political swing in the Congress shifted towards the Republicans. It was Republicans that pushed for term limits because they had their asses handed to them for about 24 years after they plunged us into The Great Depression.. And let me remind that America is a social democracy (that means majority rules)..
As far as entitlement programs?? What FDR established back in the 30′s kept us from falling into another Great Depression today.. We should never abandon the American people just because corporatist want a frickin tax cut. I personally needed unemployment after I was laid off .. I hate unemployment but it helped with some of the bills .. I’ve worked since I was 13 and never seen such a sh1tty job market..

86 NAFTA

Everything that the tea party is angered about was occuring under Bush II. However they needed a target for their blind hate. When a democrat was lawfully elected, by an overwhelming majority, they had their target. The fact that the democrat was a black man made the target bigger.

you know… I don’t know what more can be said to show just how stupid and pathetic this movement is… how stupid and pathetic the attempt to stop healthcare reform was… how stupid and pathetic the attempt to kill financial reform… how stupid and pathetic the claim that Obama isn’t an american… The list goes on and on. And who is responsible for this? The Tea Party. They are bounded by blind hate.

Reasonable people: stand up to these lunatics. They have nothing going for them except their enthusiasm of being an a-whole. In order for them to really do anything, they must be elected. Please vote… and vote for someone else.

Well, you’re welcome for your welfare checks. Next time you get a real job, save your money so you don’t need to live off the stolen money of others.

Typical democrite, FDR preferred America to live in squalor, so he prolonged the depression as long as he could. The end of WWII finally brought us out.

And let me remind you that America is a representative republic with severe limitations on democracy. I.e. majority doesn’t rule.

Hey fuck face! It takes 6 years to get an electrical license. I’ve been a sparkie for 12 years..So your bullshit bootstrap theory would work if our economy was functioning properly.. It’s idiots like you Baggers and Neocons that drove us hear..

We are a Democratic Republic with a social democracy.. Keep taking classes at the Glen Beck school for Nazi’s.. Dipshit!

I pay for your inability to keep a job and am rewarded with verbal abuse. Typical leftist, sanction your victim.

“Your” taxes don’t pay for unemployment comp.. Your employers taxes do. It’s just like a bagger to kick someone when there down too.. I didn’t spend all this time working in my field because I like unemployment.. I don’t have an inability to keep work.. THERE IS NO WORK! 22 Job applications and guess what!! NO WORK! NOBODY IS HIRING..

Nobody is hiring because you and your ilk elected democrites. Businesses are terrified by your democratic socialism so they are in survival mode. That means no hiring and minimal spending.

No no-one is hiring because all of the wealth has been funneled upwards .. If your wondering where our public treasury has been hiding you might want to look into the Swiss Bank or Exxon Mobile’s bank account .. It also doesn’t help when we have the North American Free Trade Agreement(NAFTA) and General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) If we simply got rid of these treasonous policies we might have a chance to live the American Dream.. But you keep on supporting those Capitalist Communists in China. There gonna be your corporate masters as soon as the Dollar is obsolete ..

If a barefoot underfed uneducated Mexican can do your job you might want to get some training in a field that requires some skill and is in demand.

Blame global conspiracies if you want but local companies have curtailed hiring because democrites have slashed their profit margins and threaten to keep increasing the cost of labor. It’s not complicated.

An electrician is not a skilled job?? Really?? I’m not responding to your idiotic posts anymore Jimmy .. You really are an moron..

“Peace” douche-bag

Can a barefoot underfed uneducated Mexican do your job?

Yes Jimmy .. The same illegal Mexicans that you hire to shave your forehead can integrate poly-phase pulse generators..(yeah right) Have you ever been to Mexico?? I have.. An American electrical inspectors Dream..

I wasn’t implying that a “sparkie” is unskilled. But I do blame you and all other lefties, democrite and RINO, for driving business out of Minnesota and the US, and dousing the fires of capitalism with your statist anti-liberty biases.

“dousing the fires of capitalism with your statist anti-liberty biases”

I’ll bet Jimmee came up with that all by himself.

“But I do blame you and all other lefties, democrite and RINO, for driving business out of Minnesota”

Apparently not old enough or educated enough to know that didn’t really happen before NAFTA, brought to us by the premier capitalists themselves, corporate America. Big money can do no wrong, right Jimmee?

I expect Americans to work hard and work smart and for a wage agreed on my free, unregulated parties. And if my job could be done well enough by a Mexican, for 1/10 the cost, I’d be far too embarrassed to complain about it.

Jimmy/Rudy/Raymond, in your fantasy world, you won’t have time or energy to even complain as you slave away 15+ hours a day 7 days a week with maybe one or two days off a year for pennies per hour with no benefits … and you better know how to operate and maintain the dangerous machinery, too. And woe to you if you get injured on the job with no recourse either except to be flung out in the grimy back alley littered with rotting corpses …

Of course, you’d say that’d never happen because you wouldn’t agree to such given your “libertarian” notion of all parties coming to mutual agreement. Well, in your fantasy world, there would be no social safety net with the employers calling all the shots …

Hardly “liberating.”

Just go away.

“you slave away 15+ hours a day 7 days a week”

Public sector companies strive to pay workers generously, to retain talent. By your logic everyone should be making minimum wage.

(I meant private sector.)

So Jimmy/Rudy/Raymond is saying that he won’t do the job that the Mexican will do because the job doesn’t pay a living wage with at least basic health coverage EVEN if that is the only job available for two hundred miles around?

What good is “freedom and liberty” if it is not tempered by a strong sense of social justice? After all, we all live in a closed system where we all have to get along in the face of finite resources and a fragile ecosystem. Given his rainforest comment in the recent article about Cargill, I doubt this man is capable of considering the bigger picture … and to borrow his words, I don’t give a rat’s ass what he has to say.

>>> What good is “freedom and liberty” if it is not tempered by a strong sense of social justice?.

Surely you and I disagree about what is social justice. To me justice is simply protected property rights. That actually covers a wide range of rights considering for example that free speech is the exercise of your physiological property (e.g. larynx for speaking and fingers for typing).

Such an approach to justice has superior moral basis, but thankfully, it is also superior from a practical standpoint. Free trade between self interested parties is honest and fair but also achieves the highest level of living standard across the population strata.

>>>>>Free trade between self interested parties is honest and fair but also achieves the highest level of living standard across the population strata.

Earlier you touted the fact that you would hire the cheapest Mexican labor that you could find to wire your house. As a sparky I believe in honest and fair wages and a higher standard of living(our job is dangerous and I’ve been to 3 funerals because of the risk involved) .. The problem we have in our country is that our value system has been tilted towards this “Race to the Bottom” theory.. I don’t know what industry your in but it is obvious that it’s recession proof.. I have seen soo many people hurt by our political status quo and I understand the tea party rage.. The rage is understood from my perspective but more or less because our political system has been hijacked by the Corporate Anarchist that line political pocketbooks.. I feel the rage too but for the opposite reason that you do..

>>>> Earlier you touted the fact that you would hire the cheapest Mexican labor that you could find to wire your house.

I never said anything remotely resembling that. If I wanted my house to burn down, then maybe it would be true. Otherwise I’d try to hire honest competent experts to do the job right and for a reasonable price.

And I work in the technical field and it certainly is not recession proof. I know the terror of being unable to make a living, especially recently due to the leftist vector our economic ship has taken. I don’t want a handout but please don’t chase all the industry out of town to satisfy your socialist bloodlust and hatred for evil rich folk.

>>I don’t want a handout but please don’t chase all the industry out of town to satisfy your socialist bloodlust and hatred for evil rich folk.

There is no hatred I have for rich folk.. Just the rich folk that grease political palms to outsource our jobs to China.. If people play by the rules I’m alright with that..