Bachmann military prayer amendment defeated
Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 1:56 pm

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After pressure from church-state separation groups, House leaders rejected Rep. Michele Bachmann’s amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, which would’ve allowed chaplains to insert their personal religious beliefs into non-religious events.
The provision called for “Protection of the religious freedom of military chaplains to close prayer outside of a religious service according to dictates of the chaplains conscience.”
Joseph L. Conn of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State wrote that the government currently bars sectarian prayer outside of worship services and that if the amendment passed, it would violate the religious freedom of military personnel.
Bachmann’s proposal may not sound all that nefarious, but it is. Military chaplains, of course, are already allowed to offer sectarian prayers at sectarian worship services. A Christian chaplain presiding at a Christian gathering is likely to close a prayer “in Jesus’ name.” A Muslim chaplain at a Muslim service is going to offer prayers that reflect the teachings of Islam.
But chaplains are employees of the government, and they serve a diverse constituency, not just members of their own tradition. They are sometimes asked to offer invocations at military events where personnel from many faiths are present. At those, nonsectarian prayers may be requested.
Conn also notes that the chaplaincy of the U.S. military is becoming increasingly saturated with evangelical Christians and chaplains have already run afoul of the law.
Read Bachmann’s proposed amendment:
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Comment posted May 27, 2010 @ 11:17 pm
Oh yes.. Absolutely! I personally want the same Navy Champlain that blesses the Predator Drone to kill as many people as possible to attend the Ice Cream Social in my community.. If I were to write a book on how Christianity is going to commit suicide, Michele Bachmann would be the poster girl handing out the cyanide Jello shots.. If you want to kill your pathetic religion Michele >>KEEP IT UP!!
Comment posted May 27, 2010 @ 11:48 pm
Can’t give the chaplains any prerogatives. How can society survive when citizens have prerogatives?
You simply can’t have people running around SAYING whatever they feel like! Speech needs to be protected, right? Speech needs to be limited, so no one is offended. In fact, why not limit the chaplains’ speech to a set of defined phrases approved by the collective? Then, everyone will be happy.
Comment posted May 28, 2010 @ 12:12 am
Jimmy..
The First Amendment is a slippery slope.. YES AND NO.. ARTICLE 1.. Government SHALL NOT respect the establishment of religion.. Go to your Church your Synagogue or go to your Mosque OR if you an Agnostic like me go to your Ice Cream Social.. Leave the nut job idiocy at the door if your gonna be a politician..
Comment posted May 28, 2010 @ 1:30 am
The christian rigtht wing has targetted our military. their ultimate goal is a religious based war in this country against anyone who does not share their hate filled views.
And that dear reader is exactly what we are fighting in Afghanistan, and around the world.
The brand name is different but the goals are the same.
And yes – free speech should be limited. If Germany had hate speech laws against religious hatred of the Jews back in the 1930s, and enforced them, Hitler would have spent his life in Jail.
And WWII and 50 million deaths and the holocaust would not have occurred.
Comment posted May 28, 2010 @ 8:19 am
According to http://faculty.ucc.edu/egh-damerow/fundamental_freedoms.htm:
“If we have freedom of religion, speech, and press, then surely we have a right to be left alone in our private thoughts and practices.”
Whether proselytizing or evangelizing, it is still preaching says this “unchurched” who values his freedom of privacy.
As a bumper sticker says: Lord, save me from your followers.
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Comment posted May 28, 2010 @ 1:27 pm
@Jimmy –
Sorry, but the US military is not a branch of Focus on the Family. Constitutional prohibitions against a state religion still apply.
Comment posted May 28, 2010 @ 3:50 pm
Free speech does not include preaching to a captive audience.
Bachmann would be foaming at the mouth if a Muslim chaplain started preaching Islam during an invocation.
Comment posted May 28, 2010 @ 10:05 pm
Trust me, focus on the family, Robertson’s 700 Club, Jerry Fallwell’s moral majority have every intention of putting as many of their followers as possible into high government positions, high ranks in the military branches, and on the courts…..they have succeeded to a certain point. thanks to Bush/Cheney.
In fact, they “grandfathered” a lot of these people into government agencies during the last 3 months of their administration.
I listened to looney Michelle on the House floor this afternoon, and clearly, she is a very unstable and dangerous woman. Please Minnesota, you’re are wonderful people, you must have someone with character and integrity to send to DC because clearly, Bachmann is an embarrassment and an idealogue.
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Comment posted May 31, 2010 @ 10:10 am
SteveMD2 posted “The christian rigtht wing has targetted our military. their ultimate goal is a religious based war in this country against anyone who does not share their hate filled views.”
When I was in Navy bootcamp, the commander-in-chief REQUIRED all recruits to attend religious service on Sunday morning. You had a choice between catholic and protestant services. If you failed to attend, they came looking for you.
While in bootcamp I was selected to be a member of the Navy’s Bluejacket Choir. Every Sunday we were the guest church choir at popular churches around Chicago, including the chapel on the campus of Northwestern University.
The Christian right-wing commander-in-chief at the time was Lyndon Baines Johnson (D).
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