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		<title>By: someone</title>
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		<description>no one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
universal declaration of human rights</description>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
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		<description>why are they using chemical weapons?...Police are meant to be protecting people, not 
gassing them.soon people will be protesting against them!</description>
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		<title>By: Diane Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe this was the end of the McCain/Pawlenty ticket. - Governor Pawlenty announced publicly last May he fully intended to complete his term of office - a public rejection for the ticket . McCain is not someone I would EVER want in my corner during catastrophe: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Minneapolis Star/Tribune; May 1, 2008 -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pawlenty corrects McCain on 35W bridge collapse&lt;br&gt;He dismissed the senator&#039;s suggestion that pork-barrel spending was the cause, but DFLers are irate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By MARK BRUNSWICK, Star Tribune &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Last update: May 1, 2008 - 8:55 PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty found himself backed into the uncomfortable position of gently contradicting GOP presidential front-runner and political mentor John McCain Thursday, saying everyone should refrain from &quot;rushing to judgment&quot; on the causes of the Interstate 35W bridge collapse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain said on Wednesday that wasteful, pork-barrel spending was responsible for the disaster, but Pawlenty said federal investigators suspect a design flaw unrelated to recent spending decisions and said the experts should be allowed to complete their work. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Thursday, facing increasing criticism from Democrats, McCain backed off from his statement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Insisting that McCain owed Minnesota an apology for &quot;disgusting&quot; comments, DFLers jumped in to deride Pawlenty for not denouncing McCain&#039;s politicization of the issue and said the disagreement shows that Pawlenty, a co-chairman of McCain&#039;s national campaign, must not be a real candidate to be McCain&#039;s running mate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pawlenty told reporters on Thursday that he left a message with McCain campaign staffers to remind them that the investigation into the cause of the bridge collapse is not complete but that early indications suggested the disaster was caused by design flaws and weight distribution from construction on the bridge at the time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Pennsylvania on Wednesday, McCain told reporters: &quot;The bridge in Minneapolis didn&#039;t collapse because there wasn&#039;t enough money. The bridge in Minneapolis collapsed because so much money was spent on wasteful, unnecessary pork-barrel projects.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At a campaign stop in Cleveland Thursday, facing increasing heat for his remarks, McCain backed off, saying, &quot;Do I know specifically whether [better spending priorities] would have replaced that bridge in Minneapolis? No, but I know that funding would have been available for higher-priority projects.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pawlenty never directly contradicted McCain&#039;s comments but said they emerged from McCain&#039;s larger frustration over congressional earmarking that Pawlenty said resulted in wasteful spending.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;He&#039;s making the general statement that Congress has underserved the country by doing pork-barrel spending and earmarking in transportation projects and clearly that&#039;s the case and I agree with that,&quot; Pawlenty said. &quot;Then he suggested that other things could be better had they not done that. He may not just be aware of all the details of the [National Transportation Safety Board&#039;s] work. I think once he learns of that, I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll incorporate that into his thinking.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stronger scolding of DFLers&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Earlier this year, Pawlenty used stronger language to chastise Democratic critics, saying they should &quot;quit using the bridge, quit exploiting the bridge tragedy to advance their political agendas&quot; after a preliminary report pointed to the design flaw rather than deferred maintenance as a tentative cause of the collapse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Responding to McCain&#039;s remarks and Pawlenty&#039;s defense of them, Sen. Steve Murphy, DFL-Red Wing, chairman of the Senate Transportation Committee, said McCain made a mistake and owes the citizens of Minnesota an apology.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Candidates just about at any level are going to manipulate any statistic and emotion that they can to get elected,&quot; Murphy said. &quot;I think this was just plain flat out disgusting behavior on Senator McCain&#039;s part.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Murphy also challenged Pawlenty, who frequently has campaigned for McCain and has been mentioned repeatedly as a possible vice presidential candidate with McCain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;You would think that if Governor Pawlenty was a serious vice presidential consideration by Senator McCain, that Senator McCain might have wanted to talk to the governor in regards to the 35 bridge before he made those statements.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota, whose district includes the bridge collapse site, also was critical of McCain&#039;s remarks, suggesting he should have consulted Pawlenty about the real causes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Minnesota has yet to heal from the wounds inflicted by this tragedy of the bridge collapse. Thirteen of our citizens lost their lives and 143 suffered serious injury, and all of us are still shaken,&quot; Ellison said in a statement. &quot;The last thing we need is a misinformed presidential aspirant posturing at our expense.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama also cited bridge&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A McCain campaign spokeswoman said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has been mentioning the bridge collapse in stump speeches for days in relation to a suggestion by McCain and Democratic opponent Hillary Rodham Clinton for a federal gas-tax holiday this summer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Obama was clearly playing politics with it; Senator McCain responded to a question in a press conference,&quot; said spokeswoman Crystal Benton, who also called criticism of McCain by Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak, an Obama supporter, &quot;disingenuous at best.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dust-up reinforced the close alliance between Pawlenty and McCain and renewed what has become a constant hum of talk about Pawlenty finding a role in a possible McCain administration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Following his remarks on McCain&#039;s comments, Pawlenty was asked about an earlier pledge to serve out his full term as governor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I&#039;m focused on my job staying in Minnesota and being governor,&quot; he said. Asked specifically if he stood by his pledge to serve the full four years, Pawlenty said: &quot;That is my intention.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe this was the end of the McCain/Pawlenty ticket. &#8211; Governor Pawlenty announced publicly last May he fully intended to complete his term of office &#8211; a public rejection for the ticket . McCain is not someone I would EVER want in my corner during catastrophe: </p>
<p>Minneapolis Star/Tribune; May 1, 2008 -</p>
<p>Pawlenty corrects McCain on 35W bridge collapse<br />He dismissed the senator&#39;s suggestion that pork-barrel spending was the cause, but DFLers are irate.</p>
<p>By MARK BRUNSWICK, Star Tribune </p>
<p>Last update: May 1, 2008 &#8211; 8:55 PM</p>
<p>&#8220;Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty found himself backed into the uncomfortable position of gently contradicting GOP presidential front-runner and political mentor John McCain Thursday, saying everyone should refrain from &#8220;rushing to judgment&#8221; on the causes of the Interstate 35W bridge collapse.</p>
<p>McCain said on Wednesday that wasteful, pork-barrel spending was responsible for the disaster, but Pawlenty said federal investigators suspect a design flaw unrelated to recent spending decisions and said the experts should be allowed to complete their work. </p>
<p>On Thursday, facing increasing criticism from Democrats, McCain backed off from his statement.</p>
<p>Insisting that McCain owed Minnesota an apology for &#8220;disgusting&#8221; comments, DFLers jumped in to deride Pawlenty for not denouncing McCain&#39;s politicization of the issue and said the disagreement shows that Pawlenty, a co-chairman of McCain&#39;s national campaign, must not be a real candidate to be McCain&#39;s running mate.</p>
<p>Pawlenty told reporters on Thursday that he left a message with McCain campaign staffers to remind them that the investigation into the cause of the bridge collapse is not complete but that early indications suggested the disaster was caused by design flaws and weight distribution from construction on the bridge at the time.</p>
<p>In Pennsylvania on Wednesday, McCain told reporters: &#8220;The bridge in Minneapolis didn&#39;t collapse because there wasn&#39;t enough money. The bridge in Minneapolis collapsed because so much money was spent on wasteful, unnecessary pork-barrel projects.&#8221;</p>
<p>At a campaign stop in Cleveland Thursday, facing increasing heat for his remarks, McCain backed off, saying, &#8220;Do I know specifically whether [better spending priorities] would have replaced that bridge in Minneapolis? No, but I know that funding would have been available for higher-priority projects.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pawlenty never directly contradicted McCain&#39;s comments but said they emerged from McCain&#39;s larger frustration over congressional earmarking that Pawlenty said resulted in wasteful spending.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#39;s making the general statement that Congress has underserved the country by doing pork-barrel spending and earmarking in transportation projects and clearly that&#39;s the case and I agree with that,&#8221; Pawlenty said. &#8220;Then he suggested that other things could be better had they not done that. He may not just be aware of all the details of the [National Transportation Safety Board&#39;s] work. I think once he learns of that, I&#39;m sure he&#39;ll incorporate that into his thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stronger scolding of DFLers</p>
<p>Earlier this year, Pawlenty used stronger language to chastise Democratic critics, saying they should &#8220;quit using the bridge, quit exploiting the bridge tragedy to advance their political agendas&#8221; after a preliminary report pointed to the design flaw rather than deferred maintenance as a tentative cause of the collapse.</p>
<p>Responding to McCain&#39;s remarks and Pawlenty&#39;s defense of them, Sen. Steve Murphy, DFL-Red Wing, chairman of the Senate Transportation Committee, said McCain made a mistake and owes the citizens of Minnesota an apology.</p>
<p>&#8220;Candidates just about at any level are going to manipulate any statistic and emotion that they can to get elected,&#8221; Murphy said. &#8220;I think this was just plain flat out disgusting behavior on Senator McCain&#39;s part.&#8221;</p>
<p>Murphy also challenged Pawlenty, who frequently has campaigned for McCain and has been mentioned repeatedly as a possible vice presidential candidate with McCain.</p>
<p>&#8220;You would think that if Governor Pawlenty was a serious vice presidential consideration by Senator McCain, that Senator McCain might have wanted to talk to the governor in regards to the 35 bridge before he made those statements.&#8221;</p>
<p>U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota, whose district includes the bridge collapse site, also was critical of McCain&#39;s remarks, suggesting he should have consulted Pawlenty about the real causes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Minnesota has yet to heal from the wounds inflicted by this tragedy of the bridge collapse. Thirteen of our citizens lost their lives and 143 suffered serious injury, and all of us are still shaken,&#8221; Ellison said in a statement. &#8220;The last thing we need is a misinformed presidential aspirant posturing at our expense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama also cited bridge</p>
<p>A McCain campaign spokeswoman said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has been mentioning the bridge collapse in stump speeches for days in relation to a suggestion by McCain and Democratic opponent Hillary Rodham Clinton for a federal gas-tax holiday this summer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama was clearly playing politics with it; Senator McCain responded to a question in a press conference,&#8221; said spokeswoman Crystal Benton, who also called criticism of McCain by Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak, an Obama supporter, &#8220;disingenuous at best.&#8221;</p>
<p>The dust-up reinforced the close alliance between Pawlenty and McCain and renewed what has become a constant hum of talk about Pawlenty finding a role in a possible McCain administration.</p>
<p>Following his remarks on McCain&#39;s comments, Pawlenty was asked about an earlier pledge to serve out his full term as governor.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#39;m focused on my job staying in Minnesota and being governor,&#8221; he said. Asked specifically if he stood by his pledge to serve the full four years, Pawlenty said: &#8220;That is my intention.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lalas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lalas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget they bus in cops from all over for this type of stuff. Some of these guys could have been from crappy police cities/states like Minneapolis (seriously our cops suck!), L.A., Alabama, Russia or even Blackwater mercenaries! The St Paul cops have a decent reputation. And F the violent protesters, the rest of us are trying to accomplish something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t forget they bus in cops from all over for this type of stuff. Some of these guys could have been from crappy police cities/states like Minneapolis (seriously our cops suck!), L.A., Alabama, Russia or even Blackwater mercenaries! The St Paul cops have a decent reputation. And F the violent protesters, the rest of us are trying to accomplish something.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry &#34;Real&#34; Protestor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry &#34;Real&#34; Protestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had it with this bullshit.  Things like this would not have happened but for those who came to our cities to cause trouble.  I participated in the anti-war march and was absolutely outraged when I found out that groups of assholes like this have stolen the thunder of an otherwise legitimate peaceful protest.  I have marched in support of my beliefs for over twenty years and groups of yahoos like this have always been around trying to force police to act violently.  I&#039;ve seen it time and time again.  The reason I have never been arrested is because I march in peace and get the hell out of there when these idiots put their rags on their faces and start throwing pieces of concrete and rocks, start setting fires and breaking windows.  That&#039;s not protest; that&#039;s criminal.  It is not what free speech looks like.  And, when you so-called legal observers get in the middle of the violence to &quot;observe&quot; police behavior, you should expect to be sprayed.  If you want to defend anarchists, go right ahead.  When you lie with dogs...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, think about this.  Who is going to respond to your call when your house gets pinged by a stray bullet?  Who is going to respond to your call that some drunk asshole just hit your car and left the scene of the accident?  Who is going to respond to your mom&#039;s house when her house gets burglarized by a drug-addicted mope looking for something good to fence so he can buy some drugs?  It&#039;s sure not those assholes you burned a garbage can with.  It&#039;s the police.  If you don&#039;t believe in organized government, get the hell out of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had it with this bullshit.  Things like this would not have happened but for those who came to our cities to cause trouble.  I participated in the anti-war march and was absolutely outraged when I found out that groups of assholes like this have stolen the thunder of an otherwise legitimate peaceful protest.  I have marched in support of my beliefs for over twenty years and groups of yahoos like this have always been around trying to force police to act violently.  I&#39;ve seen it time and time again.  The reason I have never been arrested is because I march in peace and get the hell out of there when these idiots put their rags on their faces and start throwing pieces of concrete and rocks, start setting fires and breaking windows.  That&#39;s not protest; that&#39;s criminal.  It is not what free speech looks like.  And, when you so-called legal observers get in the middle of the violence to &#8220;observe&#8221; police behavior, you should expect to be sprayed.  If you want to defend anarchists, go right ahead.  When you lie with dogs&#8230;</p>
<p>By the way, think about this.  Who is going to respond to your call when your house gets pinged by a stray bullet?  Who is going to respond to your call that some drunk asshole just hit your car and left the scene of the accident?  Who is going to respond to your mom&#39;s house when her house gets burglarized by a drug-addicted mope looking for something good to fence so he can buy some drugs?  It&#39;s sure not those assholes you burned a garbage can with.  It&#39;s the police.  If you don&#39;t believe in organized government, get the hell out of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Also Concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Also Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Concerned... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with you about violent protesters, but you clearly forgot:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Freedom for Police to pepper spray and tear gas clearly marked PRESS and LEGAL observers: NO!&lt;br&gt;Freedom for Police to use mass-attacks against protests in response to violent actions of individuals who, with proper Policing and observation techniques could easily be distinguished from the crowd: NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Concerned&#8230; </p>
<p>I agree with you about violent protesters, but you clearly forgot:</p>
<p>Freedom for Police to pepper spray and tear gas clearly marked PRESS and LEGAL observers: NO!<br />Freedom for Police to use mass-attacks against protests in response to violent actions of individuals who, with proper Policing and observation techniques could easily be distinguished from the crowd: NO!</p>
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		<title>By: jack dadny</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack dadny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democrats showed their respect to free speech by setting up a &quot;free speech zone&quot; that was nowhere near the convetion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrats showed their respect to free speech by setting up a &#8220;free speech zone&#8221; that was nowhere near the convetion.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why were these people not doing the same thing in Denver? The talk from several of the anarchists has been that &quot;the only form of government is anarchy&quot;. While the president has been attached to many horrible things over the past 8 years, he can&#039;t do it on his own. That&#039;s the great thing about our form of government. Politicians from all 3 parties have voted on things that have hurt America, and yet the people that want to fight the police only seem to come from one side. They didn&#039;t do the same thing in Denver when if they would have done this for all 3 parties maybe people would begin to listen to them. Oh wait... why listen to people who fight, break things &amp; then tell us what is wrong with society?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Free Speech: Yes!&lt;br&gt;Freedom to question government: Yes!&lt;br&gt;Freedom to destroy property: no</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why were these people not doing the same thing in Denver? The talk from several of the anarchists has been that &#8220;the only form of government is anarchy&#8221;. While the president has been attached to many horrible things over the past 8 years, he can&#39;t do it on his own. That&#39;s the great thing about our form of government. Politicians from all 3 parties have voted on things that have hurt America, and yet the people that want to fight the police only seem to come from one side. They didn&#39;t do the same thing in Denver when if they would have done this for all 3 parties maybe people would begin to listen to them. Oh wait&#8230; why listen to people who fight, break things &#038; then tell us what is wrong with society?</p>
<p>Free Speech: Yes!<br />Freedom to question government: Yes!<br />Freedom to destroy property: no</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Nekkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buck Nekkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stormtroopers of St Paul show their true character by picking on the bystanders.  Human garbage in riot suits bullying American citizens.  This is the GOP vision for America and the shame of our nation, a black mark among dozens gathering on the tattered shreds of the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stormtroopers of St Paul show their true character by picking on the bystanders.  Human garbage in riot suits bullying American citizens.  This is the GOP vision for America and the shame of our nation, a black mark among dozens gathering on the tattered shreds of the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Zango</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black eye for the Twin Cities.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know it&#039;s a nice place.  What the heck is your government thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black eye for the Twin Cities.  </p>
<p>I know it&#39;s a nice place.  What the heck is your government thinking?</p>
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