Evangelicals talk same-sex intercourse at Family Council press conference

Sounds like Pastor Jim Anderson is a closet homosexual. Wouldn’t surprise me if we here about some sex scandal in the near future. He seems to interested in homosexuality.

“body parts don’t fit,” Ha Ha he should know.
I guess it hurt when Pastor was a bottom the first time.

Two months later:

Pastor Jim Anderson found sleeping with altar boys!

Gay people have always comprised a signification portion of the population, and we will continue to seek companionship regardless of whether marriage is permitted or denied to us. To hear the Minnesota Family Council tell it, you would think if their anti-Gay amendment is passed, Gay people will simply say, “Gee, if I can’t get married, I might as well just stop being Gay!”

It just doesn’t work like that.

In actuality, encouraging Gay couples to marry is the truly CONSERVATIVE thing to do. We can all agree that promoting monogamy and commitment is far better for society that just relegating Gay couples to lives of loneliness, depression, and perhaps promiscuity.

Consider this:

Married couples typically contribute more and take less from society.
Married couples support and care for each other financially, physically and emotionally and often contribute more to the economy and savings.
Individuals who are married are less likely to receive government entitlements.
Individuals who are married statistically consume less health care services, and often give more to churches and charities.
Married couples are better able to provide care and security for children.

So maybe someone can help me understand what negative impact committed loving relationships have on society, and why Gay couples should be excluded from the same benefits and responsibilities of marriage?

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Same-sex marriage would lead to devastating consequences for society, the economy, woman and especially children.

Join the fight against the radical homosexual agenda and help stop their aggressive push to destroy MN.

@Chuck Anziulewicz – Regarding your question:

“So maybe someone can help me understand what negative impact committed loving relationships have on society”

This is the question that everyone seems to be asking without looking at the consequences of same-sex marriage.

It’s not that we don’t want people to have committed loving relationships or that if people want to be part of the homosexual lifestyle want to be in committed relationships are a bad thing. I’m all for them to be as happy as anyone else.

But the negative impact of legalizing the moral and religious position of same-sex marriage would be far reaching, effecting every organization and individual across the state.

All churches and religious organizations could be sued because of their beliefs, harassed and threatened or shut down. This alone would be devastating to the poor, disabled and homeless – in which millions are helped by the many churches and religious organizations throughout the state.

Public officials will be denied public funds and access to public facilities and programs who do not agree with the legalization of same-sex marriage.

Public employees will be disciplined, demotes and fired for their refusal to recognize the religious position of same-sex marriage.

Private colleges and universities will be forced to house same-sex couples even if they completely disagree with the religious position. They may lose their accreditations because of their beliefs and be forces to shut down.

Public resources will be used to promote the religious position of same-sex couples and hospitals and schools will be forces to teach patients and students about this dangerous lifestyle, as if it is natural and healthy. Taxpayers will be forces to pay for the promotion of homosexual and lesbian lifestyles.

Businesses, churches and government organizations will be threatened, fined and suited for refusing to recognize or hire same-sex partners even if their business is dependent on the moral commitment to traditional marriage, by their customers and as their reputation and brand demands.

You see, legalizing same-sex marriage is legalizing a religious position that the majority of the public does not support. It would bring devastating discriminatory legal action against anyone or any organization or business that has a different religious position.

Bigots. Plain and simple.

“Private colleges and universities will be forced to house same-sex couples even if they completely disagree with the religious position. They may lose their accreditations because of their beliefs and be forces to shut down.”

Wow, both my daughters went to religion-based colleges AND THEY WERE FORCED TO ROOM WITH THE SAME SEX! I had no idea that these universities were promoting the lesbian lifestyle by forcing same-sex people to be room-mates. I’m going to have to de-gay them now and force them to have relations with men just to get them on the right track. Good thing the Bible says I can do this.

Thankfully, now that Tim has pointed this out, religious universities will see the light and allow only allow opposite sex people to share a room.

“Public employees will be disciplined, demotes and fired for their refusal to recognize the religious position of same-sex marriage. ” What is the religious position of same-sex marriage? You mean if an employee who is Catholic says “you’re not really married” to a gay person? What the hell, it is already Catholic dogma that if you aren’t Catholic and aren’t married in the Catholic church by a Catholic priest, you aren’t married. I think it is so much better today, where a co-worker can harass a coworker with Bible verses about how they are going to hell. We need to protect this important Constitutional right to harass others.

Breathless bullshit, Tim . Although my opposite sex partner and I do use the “hole don’t fit” scientific process. I gave up trying to stick it in her ear.

Tim, you are wrong wrong wrong. Apparently you have not read the Constitution, which prohibits most of what you fearfully and erroneously claim. It’s a shame you wish to push this religious agenda without a shred of truth. By the wya, how does sme sex mariage harm women? Is that just 2 dudes getting married or 2 women? ugh…..

Kevin,

I think Tim thinks same-sex marriage harms women because they won’t feel the intense pleasure of being penetrated by a man created in God’s image. You know, that hole is there for a reason, and it only fits one thing. Well, three, if you count a tampon and a carrot.

These comments are full of BS.

Firstly, legalizing same sex marriage doesn’t require churches to recognize it. That is a straw man argument and it is completely transparent.

Secondly, the issue of intercourse is irrelevant, as many heterosexuals engage in anal sex, and quite frankly it’s disturbing that the government would even be involved in regulating what kind of sex people have. It’s appalling and completely outrageous and no true conservative would ever support something like that.

Thirdly, the issue of children is irrelevant. Unless they are going to start denying hetero childless couples marriage licenses, the argument is silly. If anything this is an argument for gay marriage and gay adoption of children to provide more stable homes.

Next, the idea that it is the woman’s role to “tame” a man is incredibly insulting. A man doesn’t need a woman to control them, it’s called self control. If your wife keeps you from diddling other guys, you’re a closet case or a cheater. Pathetic.

Lastly, (and I AM a Christian)… but what religious leaders think sex is about means absolutely NOTHING when discussing the government. The government is not here to enforce your idealogical perspective on sex, it is to make sure the country continues to operate. Not everyone in the country is a Christian, and the government is to represent all the people, not just you.

Stop freaking out over gay marriage. Start freaking out over divorce. That is the real problem. No one is fooled by this absurd propaganda, and it’s a waste of money. Two gays getting married has nothing to do with you. Get a life and find a new obsession.. like oh I don’t know HELPING THE POOR.

@Different Tim – By your own admission, it is clear that you do not care about the negative impact of legalizing same-sex marriage that I have pointed out.

Your hatred for anyone who has a different opinion is more important to you than the consequences of your religious position.

You may like to think that your opinion is not a religious opinion so that you can force it on everyone else. But that is not the case.

Homosexuality is a moral issue and therefore any position for or again is a religious position. Humanism is the religions that contains the doctrine for self affirmed morality and is therefore the religion of many in the homosexual lifestyle.

Your worship of your personal self affirmed morality makes you a humanist and as a humanist you have a religious position in regard to your moral sexuality.

You are a religious person, whether you realize it or not. Welcome to the club.

Goold says ““Every culture has the need to civilize it’s male population through natural marriage between a man and a woman by channeling their sexual and masculine energy.”

“One of the most important social roles that women play,” Goold said, “is getting men to behave by channeling their passions and work behaviors in socially productive ways. It protects women from being exploited by men.”

Does this explain why Catholic priests are channeling their sexual and masculine energy through altar boys? Why, then, isn’t Goold speaking out against Catholic celibacy among priests? It seems they could use some help “channeling” their passion in a different way, if you know what I mean. I think the part would fit with a nun, right Pastor Goold?

Now women, one of the important social roles you play is not having constant sex so men will “channel their passions” (whatever that means) and work behaviors. In other words, no job, no nooky is your role. Your job is to use sex to control a basically wild ape-like creature. Beyond that, make breakfast and bring me a beer before I even ask for it. THAT is what God intended, and what societies throughout all time agreed was best. That, and owning women, we should bring that back too, right Pastor Goold?

Tim wrote to me:Your hatred for anyone who has a different opinion is more important to you than the consequences of your religious position.”

No, Tim, I just don’t accept ridiculous arguments. If you want to say “my religion says this is wrong and that’s all there is to it”, well you can have your opinion. But to publish a list of ridiculous and false NON-RELIGIOUS reasons, now that I hate. Because I hate liars and bullshit artists. I think God hates that too, you can look it up in your Bible.

These people have an extreme antisocial personality disorder, and beleive themseleves to be GOD, and only they can speek for God . They are just plan sick

That is the main problem. The “my religion doesn’t approve” argument is genuine, but those that this applies to know it is insufficient legislative grounds.

So, rather than leave it at that, we have these absurd and outlandish claims in order to give false credibility to an already tenuous claim. The absurdity of these claims is borderline hysteria.

Look, if religious objection is not enough, then so be it. Do not lie and fabricate false or paranoia induced slippery slopes in order to make your point. It is completely dishonest and transparent.

Gay marriages already occur and it is clear that these “country destroying” effects are completely ficticious. These lies are the desperate attempt at some religious denominations grasping at straws to captivate a waning audience. They are preying on the fears and ignorance of people in order to galvanize a voting base to achieve alternate agendas.

The majority of Americans now support gay marriage, and I challenge you to find any evidence of divorce citing “gay marriage” as the cause of separation. It won’t happen. The reason? Gay marriage is absolutely no threat to straight marriage, no threat to families, no threat to children, and 20 years from now those claims are going to considered as outrageous.

I’m a woman who is legally married to her wife in California. (However, I used to attend college in MN). Allow ME to share all the “dirty details” of MY life. In the morning, my wife and I wake up and share some coffee. Since she’s a child welfare attorney, she rushes off to work to represent children who get beaten, broken and raped by their heterosexual parents (thank goodness their private parts fit together, huh?) I, on the other hand, head off to my landscaping job and work my self into the ground, literally. We usually come home around 6:30pm, give each other a kiss on the cheek (oooh, the perversion of it all) have dinner, clean up around the house, sit on the couch together and process our day. By about 11pm, we set our alarms because we’re exhausted…

Are you trembling in your boots yet?

Then – you may want to cover your eyes – we fall asleep so we can do it all again tomorrow. Aaaaaagh!
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We work hard, we pay our taxes, we even give to charity when we can. I’d say we’re pretty upright and responsible citizens. We’ve never been exploited by men nor do we bother to “tame” men. (Frankly, I wasn’t aware men couldn’t control their “passions” without the assistance of women…poor things.) Beyond that, we are going to have a baby shortly. Our children will have a whole community of men and women, straight and gay, who love and cherish him or her.

Our marriage is no “social experiment”. This is a life grounded in love and a lifelong commitment to each other. It is also an exercise in living as good citizens and protecting our family. And, frankly, it all sounds pretty conservative to me.

They say, “Marriage is hard work.” I know WE certainly work hard at our marriage…maybe more heterosexuals should work on their marriages just as diligently. In turn, that would reduce the number of divorces and would save millions of children from being shuffled around between ex-spouses on the weekends. It’s time to focus on the real threats to marriage…like divorce, infidelity, and obsessing about gay marriage online instead of spending time with your neglected wives. (Hint, hint, Tim?)

As witnessed by news reports of Evangelicals and their mistresses, boy friends and girl friends, it should be little surprise to anyone that they are so obsessed with sex. The fact is the majority of these so called “Evangelicals” are not remotely interested in the message of Christ nor do they show anything other than contempt for Christ by their actions. They merely continue to use the “Christian” title to hide their sexual obsessions and agenda to control as many people as possible. The continued hypocrisy of these so-called “Christians” weighs heavily on real Christians and will in then end destroy the Christian faith.

Well, now we know… Pastors Jim Anderson and Steve Goold are homosexuals. Bisexual at best. Now now, I don’t mean they do it with each other… but they are clearly covering up their own dark secrets.

To all the people who judge us homos: Some people are gay. Get over it!

What I want to know in this whole “body parts don’t fit” is where do intersexed individuals fit into this pastor’s theology? Close to 2% of all children born in the United States (that is millions of people for those who need help with math) are intersexed in some form. That can be a girl born with external male genitals, a boy born with deformed genitals, a girl who has testes instead of ovaries, etc. I know a few people who have these conditions or were born with them and went through surgical procedures to try to do the best that medical science can offer. Pastor, how do these people fit into your worldview of what “God intended” for men and women? The reality is that the very definition of gender is not always something that is straightforward and clearly defined, and they were in fact born that way. The examples I have provided here are not transgendered individuals who fall into a completely different category. These are just humans who were born with biological features that do not allow them to clearly fall under one gender or the other. Once we start to acknowledge the diversity that exists within human beings when it comes to gender, masculinity/femininity, who we are attracted to physically/emotionally, it becomes quite obvious that if two human beings can find happiness with each other, they should be able to have a committed relationship that is recognized by the government.

Mike NYC has it exactly right.
As a devoted follower of Jesus, i cringe at those “evangelicals” who spew hate and
remarks that have little basis in religion or rational thought. I do believe that homosexuality
is is sin but, nobody is perfect. In truth Jesus called us to love everyone just as he did.
So when people claiming to speak in the name of God spew hatred i want to tell them
“get off my side!”

Good thing the History books state otherwise; that Gay marriage has existed just as
long as Straight marriages.

Wow, really, Tim? “Destroy MN”? With pickaxes and dynamite and mortgages and adopted children?

Hyperbolic paranoia like that has been overplayed so much, it’s not even laughable anymore.
… and, incidentally, six years of marriage equality haven’t destroyed Massachusetts.

Maybe what’s destroying MN is the hate from folks like you.

Some of these evangelical extremists are just cults of sexual obsession.

It’s really bizarre how they choose to spend so much time, money, and energy, talking about and thinking about sex.

The entire thing wreaks of perversion, which of course is why it is no surprise anymore that these people are often surrounded by sexual scandals. Sexual deviants have a long history of finding positions of influence in these type of radical organizations.

It’s blatantly obvious to any true Christian concerned with the Message that these cults of perversion are a corrupted sect that is an abomination to the Lord. Christians of the Lord can see organizations that focus on doing charitable work, lifting children and adults out of poverty, and using resources to bring the Lord’s radiance to the destitute and are not fooled by these corrupted and sinful money and sex obsessed cults.

The love and grace of Jesus is above the petty and vindictive nature of men. Whether or not you agree with or like homosexuality… or black people, or short people, or tall people, or any kind of person is not important. Jesus taught us how to love, how to sacrifice. It is only through trying to be more like Him that we can find any redemption from the wickedness of hate, anger, jealousy, or any of the other destructive evils that plague our nature.

I support marriage equality, because I know it doesn’t hurt me, it doesn’t hurt anyone, and I truly wish happiness for others. I have faith that the Glory of the Lord will shine through the corruption of the Message, and that the voices of the false prophets will falter before the everlasting message of love that Jesus brought us. Where there is love, hatred cannot live. When you fill your heart with the love and the joy of Christ, there is not room for hate.

The only thing I can conclude is that hell is going to be one giant Gay Pride event for all eternity.

Dearly Beloved,

Pastor Jim “body parts” Anderson claims that “The body parts do not fit.” I’d like to see him describe his evidence for this in exact detail. And while he’s at it, I’m sure he can provide us with a theory as to why books like “The Ultimate Guide to Anal Sex for Women, 2nd Edition, With Biblical Commentary” (Ok, I made the “Biblical Commentary” part up), and “Bend Over: The Complete Guide to Anal Sex for Men”, have been written at all. If “the body parts do not fit”, then writing books like these would be like writing books for the large audience of people engaged in transforming pennies into gold bars. They just don’t exist.

Pastor, “Tristan Taormino’s Expert Guide to Anal Sex” on DVD might be a good place to begin your research. Don’t get discouraged if you don’t succeed at first. Some positive visualization, and deep breaths, and soon you too will realize that while “many are called”, the gate can widen, and many more than a few can enter.

The ardent pastor also said, “There is a strong and documented case can be made for society being harmed by too much same-sex marriage.”

No such evidence actually exists. The only “evidence” is the tautological belief by many conservative religionists that gay marriage is harmful. Why? Because they believe it. Why do they believe it? Because it’s harmful. Why is it harmful? Because they believe it. Why do they believe it? Because it’s harmful…Why is it harmful? Because they believe it…(Ad infinitum)

What silly arguments! “It doesn’t fit!” Actually, it does… for men and women.

These idiots are nothing but politicians trying to use a wedge issue to swell their congregations with bigots.

As a hetero, I think it’s funny that so many people are hysterical and scared of something that has absolutely nothing to do with them and hurts them in no way. Get a freaking hobby, people.

By the way, gay marriage is not about whether to legalize gay sex, so that is not even at issue. People are allowed to be gay in this country, so deal with it. Gay marriage does absolutely nothing to encourage MORE of that gay sex you are so terrified of… in fact it will probably encourage a monogamous lifestyle.

It’s funny how you hypocrites like to bash the “gay lifestyle” as promiscuous, and then recoil in terror at the idea of gays actually settling down in healthy committed relationships.

You people are a disgrace to Christianity. I hope you enjoy the money that this hate mongering brings you, but you can’t take it with you to the afterlife… where I am sure you will have fun explaining your hateful and contemptuous actions.

Much ado about nothing.

Frankly, these evangelicals have embarrassed themselves so much that I am very embarrassed that I can’t even bleat a weak UFF DA …

Homosexuality is not a sin according to the Bible. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, prostitution, and rape, not homosexuality.

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Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

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There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. “Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

And it should also be noted that:
“It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organizations do believe it is impossible to change a person’s sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association.”

The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

America’s premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.

This was taken from another poster that shows why we need to legalize gay marriage. If you don’t feel for this person after reading it, you simply aren’t human.

“I am not sure what our President thinks of this dicission but coming from a poor family and knowing what discrimination is all about I would assume he would not care if “Gays” have equal rights. The whole reason why they are asking for rights to be considered married is from the same reason why I would be for it. My own life partner commited suicide in our home with a gun to his heart. After a 28 year union I was deprived to even go his funeral. We had two plots next to each other. But because we did not have a marriage cirtificate “(Legal Document)” of our union his mother had him cremated and his ashes taken back to Missouri where we came from. That is only one example how painful it is. His suicide tramatized me so much and her disregard for my feelings only added to my heartach. That happened on March 21 of 2007 and I still cannot type this without crying for the trauma I have to endure each day. Oh did I mention I am in an electric wheelchair for life? Yes I am and it is very diffacult to find another mate when you are 58 and in a wheelchair. “

Eliminate government from all marriage. It’s the only answer.

Marriage keeps women from being exploited by men? On what planet?! And I’m sure there are hundreds if not thousands of women and children in shelters that would also disagree with that statement. People exploit people regardless of marital status or sexual orientation. There are a lot of ills in our society, but gay marriage is not one of them.

shadow_man

Agreed, only the most heartless could not see the need for gay marriage.

Eventually, hearts and minds can change, as happened with this moving statement by Jerry Sanders, mayor of San Diego:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rfea8iEGNw

The evangelicals claim that gays are trying to redefine marriage, but they are the ones trying to pass laws defining marriage.
Could the lie be any more obvious?

If one of the goals is to protect women from men, then shouldn’t the church people require all men should only be with men? Wouldn’t that be better protection for women?

Let’s all stop for a minute and ask ourselves that ages-old question: What Would Jesus Do?
Well, considering that every day, 30,000 children die from poor living conditions and disease, there is poverty, war, homicide, genocide, and destruction everywhere we look, and the world seems to be dying right out from under itself, I sincerely doubt that Jesus would have very much to say about the goings on of two consenting adults within the privacy of thier own quarters. Of course, I don’t know this for sure, and I don’t pretend to. I don’t pretend to speak on God or Jesus’ behalf simply to push my own ignorance down the throats of others. Consider this for a moment: each time someone says “This isn’t what God wants” or “It’s against His will,” that person is speaking FOR God, and essentially, trying to BE God. They feel that they have God’s rights to pass judgement on the souls of others, and are trying to take His place. Hmmm…wasn’t there a certain fallen angel that got expelled from Heaven for doing that very same thing?

Why are these pervs so obsessed with sexual intercourse? Marriage is NOT just about sex, but these people are hellbent on talking about gay sex in graphic detail every chance they get. That’s what repression does to you folks. It makes you think about sexual predilictions all the time. I bet these men have far more strange fetishes than we could even imagine, too. But since these fetishes have to do with women, it’s a ok. A man loving a man? Disgusting. Fantasizing about peeing all over your lady when she has a ballgag in and is wearing a pony costume? Completely godly, and in fact encouraged. But only if there’s no birth control involved of course. Wouldn’t want to deny another special snowflake the chance to be conceived during such a loving and religiously blessed coupling.

@Tim

Marriage is not a religious state. It is a legal binding contract. Anyone’s personal religion and religious practice can NOT state how anyone lives.

To push your personal religious agenda onto law is to indoctrinate your religion and your religious practices onto the public, which is against the constitution! and is a form of slavery.

But then again your bible does support slavery so perhaps you see that indoctrination is ok.

Churches are allowed to marry anyone or not marry anyone they want in their church. When they do decide to “marry” someone it is not legal. It is only legal when the marrying couple signs the state, non religious civil forms. the state of marriage in any church is only a ritual and has no legal bearing on the state of their marriage.

The only one that is taking away from children and families are the religious zealots that state that marriage of same sex couples shouldn’t get married. Then they do this b line straight to compare it to single parents and how single parenting and not having a father at home is a disaster on the family. That is in a opposite sex family only!

In a same sex family where there are two parents, those parents are together and focused and are having a purposed parenting situation. Not to mention that most same sex families adopt, and therefore have a very tough test to pass both financially and of mental stability, unlike ANY OPPOSITE SEX FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So with that thought in mind a same sex family is BETTER!

Religion as it stands now can not define marriage since you can not be married without the state approval. Keep it defined the way it is, that I agree with you on. Keep religion out! and use the constitution for its true purpose and to stop the bigoted discriminations of personal opinions out of other peoples lives!

This is purely a case of equality and social justice. The only religious right that is being discriminated against is the ones that do not agree with the extremists and zealots of this country. I need protection from YOU.

This is coming from a straight mom of two, who has been married forever to one man. living a very conservative “lifestyle”

And one more thing, by definition, Religion is a CHOICE, YOU MAKE THE CHOICE TO HAVE A GOD, AND TO FOLLOW IT. You can at any time, change that choice. But science, and biology is what makes one gay or not. But then again, you do think the world is flat since you follow the bible to the letter.

And good luck not sleeping with your wife when she has her period, and I wonder how that beard of yours is doing? And will you marry your brothers wife, if he dies, even if you already are married? these are all laws of the bible. Do you follow them? How do you treat your slaves? since the bible condones slavery? and your position on genocide? that is condoned in the bible as well, not to mention a million other things if you read it word for word……

from what pictures Ive seen of Emmer’s family – he has 7 kids…..He better think long and Hard before he starts demonizing any group…..statisically…most likely 1, maybe 2 of his chidren could be Gay……and I wouldn’t want to be him…when he discovers that one of his kids either ..runs away from home because they feel thier father “hates them”…..or worse harms or kills themselves due to daddy’s demonizing of the LGBT community……Im 1 of 8 kids – and I have 2 gay siblings……..Mr Emmer better Really think about WHO it is he’s really hurting with his stance AGAINST the Gay community

Notice the people behind him…….all OLD fuddy-duddys…and one possible closet case….to his left….do these people have NOTHING better to do? to worry about? What about the Homeless?…what about those who won’t be able to afford thier heat bills this winter,or food? how about the unemployed? jobs? DId ANY of these people EVER take a CIVICS lesson…..? NO one is asking or Telling any religious organization to marry them…….you can get married by a Justice of the peace, and Elvis Impersonator…….etc etc………wow..they are really pathetic.

Scratch a homophobe, you’ll find a closet case. Almost invariably, those who scream the loudest about gay sex are the ones who eventually are outed. Wait and see–one day you’ll be reading headlines about these “family values” pastors who are caught with their pants down in a men’s room. Here’s a good rule of thumb: those who make the most noise about homosexuality are the ones who are almost certainly gay themselves (and are full of self-loathing because they can’t handle the truth about their own sexuality). Sad, sad, sad…

@Tim,

Seems to me you’re doing a good job of destroying Minn all by yourself. The only radical homosexual agenda is that people want to be treated equally.

Gays weren’t the ones trying to pass a Constitutional Amendment- of which all the signers of the original document would probably shrink back in horror at the “Big Government” trying to legislate their own morality.

The mysoginy of those speakers is self-evident. To them, women are just sperm banks for the male “yoni” so that they don’t beat each other with clubs.

A true evangelical goes and spreads the Word, and doesn’t try to cookie-cutter fit it to his or her own demagoguery. No these people are Zealots and hatemongers. My denomination, which has Evangelical in it’s title, allows openly gay pastors in its fold.

You know, I think if we taxed two bucks on every fundamentalist fraud who uses the term “radical homosexual agenda” we could balance the state budget in a couple of weeks. There are some seriously obsessed “Christians” out there who need to keep their personal fantasies to themselves. New rule: if Jesus didn’t obsess about it, Christians should obsess about it.

Ron, while I understand your sentiment, I think the idea that homophobes are closet gays is not only wrong, it’s pretty insulting to your average gay person.

The reality is these folks are just sexually insecure. That insecurity is coming from cultural training, not orientation (there are occasional actual gay homophobes, but in reality, they’re pretty rare – most of these folks, like the general population, are straight, but fearful and cowardly).

Susan, thank you for setting the record straight re: the myth equating homophobes with being gay but so deep in the closet.

There is homophobia based on ignorance and intolerance fostered by certain elements of society, and then there is internalized homophobia in those who are LGBT which is a consequence of living in an intolerant society.

Each homophobe (regardless of actual sexual orientation) or homophobic incident needs to be evaluated and confronted on its own merits rather than us taking the lazy, easy way out by jumping to inane assumptions such as this myth.

I am that I am, and they are as I made them. They are my chosen ones.

Dr. John R. Diggs, Jr., MD, “The Health Risks of Gay Sex”: is a 32 y/o (1978) discredited study of junk-science promoted by the also discredited NARTH to push their FRAUD enterprise of “reparative” torture and head-shrinking, a for-profit venture. It figures this Pope would link up with these frauds. Got luggage?