Out of the closet: Pawlenty endorses teaching creationism in schools

By Andy Birkey
Wednesday, September 03, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Gov. Tim Pawlenty came to the aid of Gov. Sarah Palin on Sunday on the issue of teaching creationism (aka “intelligent design”) in the classroom. While he stopped short of endorsing a mandated “God created the world in 7 days 10,000 years ago” curriculum, he said he agreed with the theory that evangelical Christians tout as a replacement for evolutionary theory.

He said that Palin’s comments about teaching creationism were “appropriate,” then said it’s up to local school boards to decide, then added that he personally supports creationism.

Pawlenty’s record on creationism was fairly empty until Sunday, when NBC’s Tom Brokaw pressed him on the issue. The closest he had previously come to addressing the issue was the appointment of intelligent design advocate Cheri Pierson Yecke as the state’s commissioner of education in 2003. Her support for the controversial science classroom curriculum led, in part, to the Minnesota Senate refusing to confirm her. Yecke was forced to step down in 2004.

A transcript of the Pawlenty interview is below the jump.

MR. BROKAW: Okay. In the governor’s race, she refused to be specific about her views on Creationism versus evolution. But, as I understand it, she did say that she thought that the two subjects should be taught side-by-side in public schools. Do you think that’s a good idea?

GOV. PAWLENTY: I saw her comments on it yesterday, and I thought they were appropriate, which is, you know, let’s — if there are competing theories, and they are credible, her view of it was, according to the comments in the newspaper, allow them all to be presented or allow them both to be presented so students could be exposed to both or more and have a chance to be exposed to the various theories and make up their own minds.

MR. BROKAW: In the vast scientific community, do you think that Creationism has the same weight as evolution, and at a time in American education when we are in a crisis when it comes to science, that there ought to be parallel tracks for Creationism versus evolution in the teaching?

GOV. PAWLENTY: In the scientific community, it seems like intelligent design is dismissed — not entirely, there are a lot of scientists who would make the case that it is appropriate to be taught and appropriate to be demonstrated, but in terms of the curriculum in the schools in Minnesota, we’ve taken the approach that that’s a local decision. I know Senator Palin — or Governor Palin — has said intelligent design is something that she thinks should be taught along with evolution in the schools, and I think that’s appropriate. My personal view is that’s a local decision –

MR. BROKAW: Given equal weight.

GOV. PAWLENTY: — of the local school board.

MR. BROKAW: And you would recommend it be given equal weight?

GOV. PAWLENTY: We’ve said in Minnesota, in my view, this is a local decision. Intelligent design is something that, in my view, is plausible and credible and something that I personally believe in but, more importantly, from an educational and scientific standpoint, it should be decided by local school boards at the local school district level.

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10 Comments

andy
Comment posted September 3, 2008 @ 2:33 pm

Huh. I guess T-Paw figures those rumors about Palin being out by friday are true and wanted to remind the crazies that he's available- and so conveniently close too!


Curtis Fredrickson
Comment posted September 3, 2008 @ 5:00 pm

You should read THE CASE FOR A CREATOR by Lee Stroble. I think it takes more faith to believe everything happened by chance than by a Creator. Every athiest or agnostic I know had a bad experience with religion or grew up in a dysfunctional family and have problems with authority in general. When an athiest looks at the moon he sees nothing; a believer in a creator sees a face. It seems to me that all of creation tends to be this way. The creator does not want robots; He wants humans who love and respect him based on free will and attitude. Curt.


John Q Democrat
Comment posted September 3, 2008 @ 6:49 pm

What do you mean, “God created the world in 7 days 10,000 years ago”?
According to Jewish tradition, the world was created 5,769 years ago.
Also, it took only 6 days to create the world because on the 7th day He rested.

In either case, these are beliefs and, as far as I know, not proven facts.
Perhaps all available theories and beliefs should be taught together.


bobxxxx
Comment posted September 4, 2008 @ 1:17 am

I feel sorry for Minnesota and Alaska. Their governors are uneducated airheads.


Observer
Comment posted September 9, 2008 @ 8:01 am

Teaching creationism is a recipe for decades of legal battles from all fronts – every flavor of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, atheism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Native American, Paganism, etc.

Who's version of the creation story? No theory with a foundation of “god told me/them/us” has a place in public schools. A lot of people claim god told them things and they're all sincere in believing those things. These things often contradict each other. Draw your own conclusion.

If Pawlenty thinks that has a place in schools then he's not familiar with fundamental law. Evidently he's not familiar with fundamental science either. He has plenty of company. Pity. Neither makes me feel good about him as a governor.


John Metza
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 11:14 pm

I learned a long time ago, that it is no sense arguing with religious fools, they are living in their own delusion and really are beyond the help of reason. Anyone who can believe in a talking snake or a rotting corpse coming back to life has made their decision to live a life of ignorance and believe almost any manure shoved their way in the name of religion.

Sad to say, Pawlenty is a nut like the rest of them, but we get what we deserve. MN is filled with religious nuts, so why wouldn’t the governor be one of them? Most religious nuts are harmless, but when they get into politics they can do some serious damage. We need to unite to defeat these jokers before they push their twisted anti-science views on unsuspecting children and warp their minds beyond repair.

Humans need to be in harmony with the earth and all creatures large and small. Currently, lead by the POPE, the biggest nut case of them all, we are breeding ourselves into a locust like population that will consume every resource on the earth and destroy ourselves in the process. We need to all unite as humans, reduce our numbers by having less children and live in harmony and balance with nature.

Unfortunately, humans have evolved only so far and I fear it will be a long time before our minds can deal with the reality of existence without the crutch of religion. Sad, but true. I think there are strong evolutionary pressures for selecting so many of us that can suspend reason for the feeling being loved by a higher power. Maybe in 10,000 years we will evolve out of it, I hope so, the world will be a better place with all mankind united and looking at each other as equals with a foundation of science and reality binding us.


mark
Comment posted May 6, 2011 @ 7:57 pm

Teaching Creationism is not the only anti-science stance taken by Republicans–global warming is another favorite. If you look at the teaching Creationism bills introduced in various states recently, you will notice they are boilerplate “teach the strengths and weaknesses” of certain scientific theories–and always mention evolution and global warming, often including the chemical origin of life and human cloning (never gravity or wave theory of light).


Matt B
Comment posted May 6, 2011 @ 8:21 pm

It’s the presumptive attitude of people like Curtis Frederickson that make things difficult. I’m glad you’ve found “God”, Curtis, but every atheist/agnostic I know grew up in a loving family, most that included religion, and are intelligent rational adults. You and people like you push human ignorance and arrogance to new heights when you talk about “what the creator wants.” People like Pawlenty and Palin enact policy and law based on their imaginations or the collective imaginations of the “faithful”. At best maybe they try to reference a book written by ignorant humans 5000 years ago.


Dominic
Comment posted May 7, 2011 @ 7:43 am

Let them teach fairytales in school. Any sane free thinking kid will not accept a faith based theory. Faith is belief without factual evidence. Beside what benefit would school kids get from it? What practical use will it hold for them in the real world? I mean if a kid wants to be an accountant or a doctor or lawyer, how does being taught creationism help them? Besides when there are fossils hundreds of thousands of years old there is no way the earth, all it’s inhabitants and the seeable universe was created in just under 6,000 years. This is a ridiculous notion and is bad for the brain. How can you teach kids that dinosaurs lived before the human race and then in the same class room teach that every living creature that ever lived, lived all at once?


Harmonika Savingsbonds
Comment posted May 7, 2011 @ 9:57 am

The man has all the intelligence of a cupcake.


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