As Ellison decries tea party ‘voter intimidation’ efforts, data shows fraud is rare

Notice anything missing from that “poster” Rep. Ellison keeps holding up? The “poster” is a doctored version of the bus shelter ads – the following has been removed from Ellison’s version:

ElectionIntegrityWatch.com
Report fraud by calling
877-602-WATCH

And he goes on to claim that the “poster” was produced by some shadowy anonymous organization. If only he hadn’t doctored the image, he could have read the organization’s name and website and even a phone number.

The message, “report voter fraud by calling…” is as intimidating to the law abiding as Neighborhood Watch signs that say if I don’t call police, my neighbor will.”

Why don’t you ask Rep. Ellison why he doctored up that image, lied about it’s origins and attempted to obscure it’s intent.

Why don’t you also review ElectionIntegrityWatch.com and actually learn about the program before commenting on how horrible it is. People are going to WATCH. That has some people very agitated, which suggests to me they are up to something they don’t want seen.

90% of the voter fraud that’s been caught in the 2008 election would have gone undetected without Minnesota Majority’s independent research, so obviously citizen involvement is needed to uphold the laws. Hennepin County acknowledges they missed most of it. Do you have a problem with upholding our election laws?

Now, how about a dose of honesty?

Voter fraud is rare, only one party does it, the Democrats.

And by the way, you can see the entire (undoctored, uncropped) bus shelter ad here: http://www.electionintegritywatch.com/advertisements/

The biggest fraud in this story is Ellison.

How is cropping, “doctoring”?

Who is getting elected? Aren’t votes from basketcase nations Somalia and Mexico enough for the likes of Ellison, no, then they have to bring in Fraudulent Votes? But it’s okay for the Democrats to be bigots and discrminate Tom Emmer out of a restuarant on Lake Street.

Ellison types are the true bigots.

Hey, read http://www.blogdelnarco.com/ to see what Mexico today is really like. Wow, don’t we want to end up like that.

The biggest fraud in this comment thread is Dennis.

“90% of the voter fraud that’s been caught in the 2008 election would have gone undetected without Minnesota Majority’s independent research . . .”

Impressive stat. How many cases were there (not a percentage–I wnat to know the number)?

Seems like to a Republican if you can’t win an election you just have to scream about it being stolen. Well I’m sorry but the GOP lost in Minnesota in 2008 and it is about to lose big in 2010 because Minnesota citizens want nothing to do with your craziness. If you were running someone like Arnie Carlson instead of Extremist Emmer you might have a complaint….

Dennis read a book once in a while you wild eyed accusations are boring.

“If you were running someone like Arnie Carlson …”

we’d be democrats.

After Kenneth Blackwell, Tim Griffin et al, it’s amazing Republicans would accuse anyone else. Meanwhile, you can’t find more than a few cases of felons who probably thought their rights were restored. Clarify that by restoring their rights when they leave prison, and even in a county with as many votes as Hennepin, you can count the fraud on one hand.

And still Republicans, you have zero evidence of organized fraud. Any apologies coming?

After this cycle’s polling place anti-fraud efforts by Tea Party volunteers, I expect attempted voter fraud to be a big story on Nov. 3rd.

“Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

It’s the Democrats’ coping mechanism for midterm election voter fraud. Faced with multiple reports of early voting irregularities and election shenanigans across the country, left-wing groups are playing dumb, deaf and blind. Voter fraud? What voter fraud?”

“More cunningly, these organizations are seeking to marginalize complaints about election integrity by casting citizen watchdog efforts as racist “scare tactics.” Echoing President Obama’s message to the Democratic faithful on the campaign trail, they are accusing political opponents of suppressing the votes of minorities and the poor.”

This flies in the face of dozens of felony voter fraud convictions across the country over the past two election cycles — and that’s just among ACORN-tied cases.

“In North Carolina and Nevada, early voters have encountered ballot machine glitches that favor Democrats in hotly contested races.

In Troy, New York, and Daytona Beach, Florida, police investigations into suspected absentee ballot fraud by elected government officials are under way.

In Harris County, Texas, the voter registrar admitted that 20 percent of voter registration forms submitted by liberal activist Houston Votes had problems.”

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1217558

Notice the race of the person who is front and center in the poster.

“Boy, I’d better not catch you tryin’ to vote again.”

To Tim: Michelle Malkin couldn’t convince me it was raining if her hair was soaking wet. Try to do better than quoting such an outright fraud.

“Michelle Malkin couldn’t convince me it was raining if her hair was soaking wet.”

Why, because she’s not white?

“polling place anti-fraud efforts by Tea Party volunteers”. Exactly what might those be Dennis? You do realize that they are not allowed to hang around in the polling places or within 100 feet of the polling places. They are not allowed to question voters in the polling places. The only people who can talk to voters within 100 feet outside the polling place are exit pollers and that is only after they vote and only to ask if they want to fill out an anonymous questionnaire. No voter has to talk to them or show them anything. If they are acting aggressively toward voters they can be removed from the premises by law enforcement. So what “efforts” are they taking to prevent voter fraud?

Bachmann is such an idiot. The felon they interviewed last year said he voted for Coleman. The lengths this woman will go is beyond disgusting. Boy would I love to see one of those Clark stuns the world moments in her district.

Tim, we don’t have to deny what’s not there. Dig into those stories a little deer if you don’t mind. By the way, problems with registrations aren’t voter fraud. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.

Dennis,
It doesn’t matter if Michelle Malkin were Klingon wielding a bat’leth at my head, she still is a liar. So no its not a race issue, it’s a she has no shame in telling lies.

“Why, because she’s not white?”

No, because she is a proven liar. Race has nothing to do with it.

Michelle has an excellent new book that is on the NY Times Best sellers list.

Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies
http://www.amazon.com/Culture-Corruption-Cheats-Crooks-Cronies/dp/1596986204/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1288279871&sr=1-1

The book is full of facts and proven statistics. Rather than calling her a liar, perhaps you just don’t like how she organizes facts.

Oh, a bestseller! That convinces me of nothing other than she was able to hose a bunch of people into buying her book (“And someday, I’m gonna learn me how to read it!”)

I’m sure Michelle “Interning the Japanese Was a Good Idea” Malkin has cleverly arranged facts to support what you and your type want to believe is true. It can cut both ways: to use a favorite Republican ethical non-defense, corruption is endemic on both sides. I could, with little effort, “organize facts” to support an argument that the Republican Party is an unusually lawless faction of the European Kindred. Let’s start with the outright gangsterism of the Nixon Administration, move to the cronyism, larceny, and fraud of the Reagan years, and end up with GW Bush’s lies in support of his Oedipal actings-out in Iraq.

Michelle Malkin has a record as a bald-faced liar. I don’t care what she puts in a printed screed.

“.00006 percent of 2008 votes were cast by felons”

The math is off here. Freeman stated that was the rate of felon voting _not the percentage_.

650,000 being 1.00000 the rate would be .00006.

650,000 being 100% the percentage would be .006%

Still small nonetheless.

“How is cropping, “doctoring”?”

Ellison’s poster isn’t cropped. It’s the full image, including the reward notation on the bottom. Things have been edited out of the middle of it.

Why couldn’t Ellison make his points without doctoring the image – and, doctored or original, what’s wrong with the message? It’s true. Voter fraud is a felony. What’s wrong with informing people of that fact and warning of the consequences?

“650,000 being 100% the percentage would be .006% Still small nonetheless. 47 fraudulent votes (in Hennepin County alone – there are 86 other counties) is 15% of 312. Why is that significant? That’s the margin of victory in the last US Senate race in Minnesota. Small amounts of fraud have the potential to swing tight elections.

Most of the cases Hennepin declined to prosecute were in fact instances of ineligible votes, but prosecutors didn’t feel they could prove the voter knew he or she was ineligible. That put the ineligible votes in a weird legal limbo. They aren’t legal votes, but there was no crime, according to prosecutors. There were 450 such ineligible votes in Hennepin County alone.

Detecting votes cast by ineligible felons is easy. There’s a list. There is no list of phony names, for example, though. If the government can’t even catch ineligible voters on their own when there’s a list, do you think they can prevent, catch or prosecute other kinds of fraud by themselves? In this state, the word of one person is sufficient to secure ballots for 15 other unidentified, unregistered individuals (insanity).

About 500,000 people registered to vote on election day in 2008. 23,000 of them provided addresses that could not be verified by the county auditors. Postal verification cards (official election mail) mailed to them after their votes were tallied were returned undeliverable. They’ll be flagged for challenge in the next election, but their votes in 2008 have already been counted.

Voter suppression is a far bigger problem than voter fraud. Let’s stop the Tea Party from adding to it.

MN has one of the best voting integrity in the nation. I was one of many people who double checked the vote and counts to make sure our voting machines were accurate. It came out in the top upper 90′s percent, which is very high. The Franken/Coleman recount was another example of how well our voting system is.

Andy Birkey is a fraud. Wow, they caught a handful of felons so there is no problem. if that was the only type of voter fraud there would be no problem. Andy knows of the other types of fraud and he knows that these other types aren’t even being looked at. I guess his point is not to do any journalism but rather to produce propaganda, kudos to you comrade.

Zera Lee, where is the voter suppression? i suppose a requirement that a voter actually be eligible is suppression?

Dan,

So were you this all outraged by what happend with the elections in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004?

Because to me neither of those elections pass the smell test for fraud and abuse.

Mark,
Voter suppression is whenever someone is working to discourage someone to vote. It can be as blatently obivious as calls to people saying that one party votes on one day and others on another, like has been done in a number of states. Or like in Florida, where they do not have same day registration, having people improperly removed from the voter roles.

Could you specify other types of voter fraud?

How is calling for an end to illegal voting bad? How is demanding that election officials do their jobs and id voters equivalent to voter suppression? What is voter suppression is preventing Election Integrity Watch from attempting to clean up elections in MN.

We are the laughing stock of the country after Franken v. Coleman, but, as susual, liberals do not care about the law or ensuring integrity in elections- they will do anything to win.

Here’s what I sent to “Steve Townsend” – one of the leaders of this bogus attempt to stifle the vote next week:

Steve,

I will be monitoring election precincts in my area, and if I see any voter intimidation tactics going on, they will be documented and reported to the police immediately.

Have a nice day.

Randy Olson
Herman-Hoffman Tribune managing editor

Randy – welcome to the Election Integrity Watch team! That’s exactly what we’re doing! You can learn more about the program you’ve volunteered for (and how to spot other illegal election activity here: http://www.electionintegritywatch.com/watch-list/

After you’re done helping watch for illegal activities on election day, are you going to write or edit a non-biased and factual article for the Herman-Hoffman Tribune about the effort? Since you are participating and helping create the news, best make it an editorial, right?

Nobody want to defend Rep. Ellison’s handiwork anymore? What happened?

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Tim wrote:
“Faced with multiple reports of early voting irregularities and election shenanigans across the country, left-wing groups are playing dumb, deaf and blind.”

Oooh, multiple cases. And then he explains that “dozens” have been prosecuted already.
First, if they are prosecuted, then that is not really “playing deaf, dumb, and blind”, is it?

Second, if we believe your “dozens” of instances in a nation of 308 million, then explain how “dozens” of fraudulent voters can tip any national election.

Third, you are mixing registration fraud and voter fraud together. Sure, people register as ‘Mickey Mouse”, but they don’t actually show up at the polls and vote.

Fourth, as the story clearly states, a convicted felon CAN vote if their rights are restored. Quoting figures of convicted felons who voted is meaningless without knowing how many of those have their rights restored. Fortunately, this was examined by Freeman. The result was slightly more than three dozen. And we don’t even know who those people voted for. You seem to imply that this tipped the balance in the Senate race. Arithmetic must not be your strong subject.

Notice that there was no evidence found of illegal aliens voting, or hundreds of voters being driven around for multiple voting, or of any kind of conspiracy whatsoever. But that doesn’t stop you from claiming those things.

The frenzied opposition to this ‘election integrity’ group proves that the group will find nothing amiss.

…right?

No, that poster was not doctored. They purposely leave out any information when posting information on the site, but not for the reasons you are claiming. What an obtuse remark. Yeah, seen one of those who were sent in to watch the voting and he did nothing but create problems – problems that were not true. Every single voter that showed up and saw that wanted him thrown out. All citizens from all party’s. See how much we don’t like the hyper driven effort of false accusations?

You know something, I watched Coleman/Franken court case – he didn’t have a damn thing, and in the end – he only upset more people for his games. Franken not only won fair and sqaure, but he actually gave voting districts to Coleman in the court case. He had many more votes in the end.