What programs would Bachmann cut? Not many
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 at 8:30 am
Rep. Michele Bachmann appeared on CNN’s The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer on Saturday to talk about the tea party and cutting the nation’s budget. Blitzer pressed Bachmann to name programs that could be cut to bring down the federal budget deficit, but she declined, saying only that spending levels should be rolled back to 2008 levels.
Bachmann also said the tea party would not likely field a 2012 presidential candidate because it’s too financially prohibitive to create a new political party. But if the GOP doesn’t cut spending the tea party will abandon the them, she said.
Here is Bachmann’s and Blitzer’s exchange on cutting the budget:
BLITZER: Give me one big ticket cut that would you make, $1 billion, $5 billion, $100 billion. Where would you find the money available to deal with the deficit?
BACHMANN: Well, number one, just go back to spending levels of ’08.
BLITZER: Give me a specific example.
BACHMANN: That’s 25 percent of the federal budget. Remember, the federal budget was no lean, mean machine when President Obama took over. In his tenure, less than two years’ time, he has driven up the size of the federal budget almost 25 percent.
BLITZER: There’s a specific cut you would make?
BACHMANN: Take every –
BLITZER: Department of Education?
BACHMANN: Every increase that he took, go back to the –
BLITZER: Department Of Energy? Give me a specific.
BACHMANN: OK. But go back — I am. Go back specifically to where we were with the budget in ’08. That was not a paltry budget. Go back exactly where we were, that solves a lot the problem.
BLITZER: No specific cut you would prose right now other than go back to the 2008 levels?
BACHMANN: Back to the 2008 level, because one thing — we can do across the board cuts, but I don’t think that’s prudent, because there are legitimate projects that have to be done.
Bridges have to be built. Water treatment systems built. I think we don’t want to cut off our nose to spite our face, we have to be smart about this.
BLITZER: You’re basically saying, just have an across the board cut to the 2008 levels?
BACHMANN: No, no. Go back to where the spending priority was in 2008. Start there to begin with because we have to check the driver of spending. Go back to ’08, from there, then we can take the time to go through the budget and find out which priorities we want.
BLITZER: Is there a priority you want to cut?
BACHMANN: That I want to cut?
BLITZER: From 2008, is there something from 2008 that you would cut beyond that 2008 level?
BACHMANN: I’ll give you one example going back to when President Bush was in office. I disagreed with President Bush on no child left behind. I thought it was a failure, and it failed, a failed opportunity. In that bill the federal government ramped up spending more than we had ever seen.
BLITZER: For the Department Of Education.
BACHMANN: Department of Education.
BLITZER: So you would cut that?
BACHMANN: You could start there.
BLITZER: That’s a specific cut.
BACHMANN: Start there.
BLITZER: More cuts down the road to discuss. Michele Bachmann, thank very much for coming on.
BACHMANN: Thank you, Wolf.
And on the tea party movement, Bachmann said Republicans have to give the tea party what they want or they may go elsewhere:
BLITZER: Let’s talk about the tea party. Our brand new CNN Opinion Research Corporation poll just out today shows this. In October, the unfavorable number for the Tea Party Movement was 37 percent. It’s now gone up to 42 percent. A slightly bigger number as far as unfavorable attitudes towards the Tea Party, what’s your sense? Why is this happening?
BACHMANN: Well, it’s interesting, because they were so wildly successful at the polls just a couple of weeks ago. I think they’ll continue to be. I think it really depends upon how they’re being portrayed in the media.
I think that will affect polls, but clearly, people who are part of the Tea Party recognize it’s not a political party. It’s really just a set of ideas that have more to do with limited government, making sure taxes don’t go up and making sure that government lives with its mean. That’s essentially the Tea Party.
BLITZER: It was by all accounts widely successful although significant failures in Delaware, Nevada and some other states where there was a real strong Tea Party candidate who lost.
BACHMANN: You can’t win them all, but they are phenomenally successful, considering they are not a political party. They have no money behind them. There’s no organization, no hierarchy. It’s a brand and group of people coming together.
BLITZER: Do you think it will change?
BACHMANN: In what way?
BLITZER: If the Republican establishment doesn’t do what the Tea Parties wants it to do, do you see the possibility as the Tea Party emerging as real political party, as opposed to a movement?
BACHMANN: I think if the Republican Party decides to big government, big spenders then you’ll see a significant shift away from the Republican party. I don’t that right now.
The vibrancy and the verve in the last election was energized from the Tea Party and that energy was infused into the Republican Party. The people who are disaffected Democrats and Independents voted for the Republican, because they didn’t – they were rejecting the big government policies that were coming out of Washington.
BLITZER: Because some have already suggested, you know what? Looking lady to 2012, a Tea Party candidate as opposed to a Democratic candidate or Republican candidate is a possibility. In other words, a strong third party.
BACHMANN: I doubt it. I really doubt it. I think you’ll see the two-party system intact. It just two years from now, the presidential – the clock has started ticking on that race.
I don’t think we’ll see — you’d have to have a rise of an entire political party infrastructure. There’s so much that goes along with that. I just don’t think that we’re going to see that happen.
13 Comments
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 10:44 am
Here’s what I would cut:
1. TSA
It’s not the role of government to be the security force for the airline industry. Let them hire and pay for their passengers’ security.
2. Commerce Dept.
It’s not the role of government to pick winners and losers in the marketplace. That’s essentially what the commerce dept. does by arranging overseas trips with select businesses to help them establish a presence in foreign countries.
3. Education Dept.
K-12 education is the role of state and local governments and not the federal government.
4. Energy Dept.
The energy dept was created to oversee the nuclear power industry but has expanded to micromanage all kinds of businesses engaged in every type of energy creation in the private sector.
SSI
5. SSI is a welfare department that uses funds from social security revenues to pay for support of widows and orphans and others. Let the states’ welfare departments pay for these people if that’s what the taxpayers want t do.
6. The Pentagon
Cut the military budget by 30%. Let them figure out who to best spend the money that’s left to defend this nation.
7. Homeland Security.
Let the FBI and the CIA go back to finding the bad guys. We don’t need 300,000 bureaucrats to do it.
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 11:38 am
I recall it was the lack of coordination between the intelligence services AND the poor screening at airports (airlines farmed this out to the cheapest contractors who paid minimum wage and little benefits, if any, to poorly-trained staff) that led to 9/11 and its aftermath and the formation of Homeland Security and TSA.
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 2:51 pm
So is Rep. Bachmann playing coy or does she have no concrete answer for the question? Given the role that government spending played in her (and many other) campaign(s) I would think she’s had time to develop some ideas on the subject. And I’m sure she’s gotten her marching orders from C Street. Maybe she needs a teleprompter.
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 3:48 pm
Bachmann’s statement about the T-Party:
“I think they’ll continue to be. I think it really depends upon how they’re being portrayed in the media.”
No Ms. B. It’s not about how they are portrayed in the media, it’s about what they do and how they behave. I have no doubts many of these T-Party folk will made complete asses out of themselves and prove to be completely incompetent. The media will only report that and we will be watching.
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 4:37 pm
“They have no money behind them. There’s no organization, no hierarchy.”
Wow. Fall off the edge of the flat Earth much? I expect Tea Party Express, Freedomworks, Americans for Prosperity and so on are insulted.
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 8:41 pm
She can remember the talking points, but she gives no indication that she has a deeper understanding of the issues.
As I recall, one of the big objections to NCLB was that it presented so many unfunded mandates to the states. While I agree with changing NCLB, and President Obama has been changing it, I do not think that cutting it would save much money.
In 2008, the cost of the wars was not included in the budget. they were tacked on with emergency spending. We could also service only 2008 levels of the national debt.
That also raises the question of when in 2008 do they want to set the benchmark – before or after they started fighting the recession.
It is easy to retreat to the past and a false sense of stability, but it is neither responsible nor realistic. We have to face today’s problems with today’s solutions, or repeat the failures of the past.
That means planning for our future, something the republicans reject.
Comment posted November 24, 2010 @ 9:40 am
At some point, right wing buffoons like Bachmann are going to have to get real if they are going to talk about “balancing the budget” . Everyone knows this cannot be done without raising taxes. Cutting all the stuff Dennis mentions won’t do it even if it can be done politically. I cannot understand how there exists a popular constituency against raising taxes on the wealthiest 1%, particularly when they are obviously doing nothing to put a dent in unemployment or nonprofit sector services. Everything I read about these people sounds like Samuel Gompers, when asked what he wanted: “More.”
Comment posted November 24, 2010 @ 11:58 am
More proof on the lack of leadership and foresight of the republican party. All talk and no action. This party is becoming a joke.
Dennis how the hell can you want to cut k-12 funding??? We are already underfunding our schools. We need to increase school funding by at least 100% if not more! Make sure that all students get the same amount of financial backing for k-12 including post high school education. This will hurt for a while but it will bring more jobs to America for our future generations thus making America stronger. You do want to make America stronger don’t you?
Comment posted November 24, 2010 @ 11:12 pm
Interesting how Michele Bachmann avoids answering a direct question. She does that on purpose to remain relevant. She has a tendency to put her foot in her mouth far too much.
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Comment posted November 29, 2010 @ 3:29 am
I would let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire, for those making more than $500k/yr. They are ruinously expensive without providing any positive benefit.
For the $250k-$500k range, I would phase out the tax cuts over 4 years. For under $250k, I would keep the cuts for 4 years then phase them out over 4 years – if the economy permits.
I would raise the cap on FICA and pro-rate benefits for those who exceed the cap.
I would set the AMT threshold to either be a multiple of the poverty income amount or automatically adjust for inflation.
I would defund faith-based initiative programs and tax political expenditures made by groups claiming religious tax exemptions. Secular programs would get priority for foreign aid, but corruption and availability must always be taken into consideration.
Comment posted November 30, 2010 @ 7:09 pm
Zera has some very sound ideas. I’d also consider reducing the mortgage exemption to, say, 2x the average value of housing in the state in which the house is located, and would allow the exemption for only a primary residence, and perhaps a second home/cabin–with much more limited allowance. Why should people buying $5 million dollar mansions write it all off? or for someone who has multiple houses?
I would cut a great deal of the overhead costs of education: We ought to have NATIONAL education standards, with the states varying in that they teach the history of their own state. We are the only major democracy that does not have national standards. Unless we want to say to people who have very low education requirements that they cannot move away, we need national standards so that everyone aims at the same educational achievements. That would cut down dramatically on the variety of state approved text books, and would mean that a high school graduate of Minnesota would, with the exception of state history, know the same things, and have achieved the samestandards as graduates of Montana, Massachusetts, as well as California, Arizona, etc. We have a mobile population; we need a well educated population, and some states have very low expectation. This handicaps children there, and means we are all paying for it.
As has been noted, the wars were off budget in 2008; let’s just declare victory in Afghanistan, and bring our troops home. That would save huge amounts.
Let’s restore real progressive taxation. In the post WWII years, the highest tax rate was about 90; now, we have millionnaire Congresspeople complaining about 39% rate on the highest income levels. Let’s also tax dividends at the same rate as wages; why should someone who works be penalized over those whose wealth is inherited and lives off investments. The top 2% of the population representing at least 30 million people (discounting children and recognizing families generally file as one unit) stand to make hundreds of thousands of dollars if the highest earners get their taxes extended; and yet, the we can’t afford to support the 12 million unemployed with less than $10k/year on average? Talk about unjust! Evidently words like dignity, lack of jobs, hopelessness don’t mean much to some people.
In addition, lets establish a meaningful “living minimum wage” in exchange for tax gifts for millionaires and billionaires. A family with both parents working 40 hour weeks and two kids should not be in poverty. A living minimum wage also means that jobs that pay slightly above minimum wages will improve (a category which often includes store clerks, nursing home aids, etc.). The minimum wages have decreased in value by more than half over the past 3 decades. That’s a tragedy, and I would argue, a moral crime.
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Comment posted December 1, 2010 @ 2:24 pm
Going back to 2008 level of spending would be a big cut.
That counts as a cut.
And she mentioned the Department of Education. That counts as a cut.
It’s too bad that the guy who wrote paragraph #1 didn’t actually read the
rest of the story.
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