Daily Show dings Bachmann on statement about Planned Parenthood

Michele and her religiouso don’t base their economic policy demands on fact but on the extent to which their fear feels right. That removes all the tedium of research and responsibility for the effects of their words.

Praise Jebus, God hates facts, Amen.

It is sick to see Jon Stewart make jokes about the 3 million babies being killed each year by Abortion. Jon laughs at the facts that unwed mothers stuggle to feed there babies as if that is a good reason to kill them.

How can the people of Minnesota not be embarrased by this woman?!

It’s sick that Michelle Bachman seeks ways to defund an organization that strives to provide low cost health care and family planning to low income women by blatantly lying to saps like Tim.

Tim,

So this means you’re all for comprehensive sex education and affordable contraception as much better means of preventing abortion?

John looks really tired/sad. The idiocy and hatred from the right seems to really be getting to him.

Heck, we know universal health care helps with female access and a reduction in unwanted pregnancies. I bet Tim is all for pro-life of universal health care

Give me a break Tim. She’s saying you can get an abortion after grabbing a Starbucks. You’re not offended by THAT?

It’s not surprising that pervs like Stewart would be in favor of free and easy abortions so he doesn’t have to deal with the consequences of his hollywood lifestyle.

Surveys show the demographic that is most pro-abortion is not even female but young males, aged 18-25. In Stewart’s case intellectual age would still put him within that range.

Please provide sources that show Stewart is a pervert, Dennis, otherwise you’re just shit-talking out of your ass…which most of us are tired of here.

Tim – Obviously you didn’t watch the clip. The problem is that Republicans are trying to defund prenatal care, child care, early childhood programs. Stewart is trying to draw attention to the fact that Republicans not only want to try to defund something they aren’t currently funding (abortion services at Planned Parenthood), but all the care needed by woman who chose to carry to term. Oh, and he’s making fun of the fact that Bachmannn is, once again, lite on the facts and heavy on the innuendo.

“Most of us?” You’ve taken a poll have you?

Ginger – Unless Planned Prenthood is the only place in society where a woman can get prenatal care, child care, or early childhood programs then it’s Stewart who is “lite on the facts.”

We’re talking about taxpayer money. Let Planned Parenthood and their “customers” get the money elsewhere.

This country makes me sick.

Monkeys like Bachman are bottom feeders. She says things that are so stupid that the stupid parrot it back — regardless of how stupid it is.

Idiots.

a) It’s not an abortion clinic.
b) The point of the clip was not even about abortion, but pointing out how stupid her comment was that people would somehow, “stop off for an abortion” — particularly at a place that DOES NOT OFFER ABORTIONS.

If you want to get into an abortion / pro-life debate, realize again that it is a legal procedure being done in a democratic society. If any of your morons ever were faced with making that decision, you’d know that having an abortion is an INCREDIBLY hard and painful decision. Sadly, sometimes abortion would be a better thing for society. Just imagine how much better the world would be if Michele Bachman’s mother had decided to have an abortion. See! I’m showing how much better abortion is.

I’m sorry, the extreme right has become so stupid that it’s impossible to even have a conversation with them without vomiting in my mouth.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/19/philadelphia-abortion-doctor-charged-counts-murder/

The ironic thing is that by defunding Planned Parenthood instances like this will skyrocket due to women having less resources.

I’d like to defund Xe (blackwater) who murdered people in Iraq

I’d like to defund KBR, who electrocuted soldiers to death because they were so incompetent they grounded their buildings to the shower pipes.

I’d like to defund halibruton who ripped us off for billions with unfinished projects in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I guess ripping off America, killing soldiers, and murdering civilians is all good. As long as you make billions.

it is strange indeed that right-wing pseudo-Christians expend extraordinary amounts of time and energy to ensure the forbidding of an act not explicitly forbidden in the Bible, yet they spend comparably little time fostering the actions that again and again they are explicitly commanded to undertake: to save the hungry, naked, thirsty, and sick as Matthew 25:31-46 enjoins us, as well as to more generally ensure that the poor are not oppressed, economic justice is established, and immigrants are welcomed and treated well, as the Old Testament repeatedly commands us. This is so even though the Matthew 25 injunctions are matters of life and death to millions, if not tens of millions of already-born, unquestionably human beings every year.

Right-wing pseudo-Christians don’t seem to apply to Matthew 25 the same absolutist black/white analysis that they employ in their broad interpretation of “Thou shalt not kill,” even though Matthew 25 is explicitly stated in black-and-white terms: the hungry, naked, sick, thirsty, etc – no exceptions — must be helped, with the gravest of all possible consequences if you do not do so.

pro life in only the thought of forcing the way you get pregnant, to stay pregnant and forget about all else, including the health of the mother, and life there after. And if we don’t like what you do in that life, we will force laws that will kill you for it.

very pro life not.

Marie, aren’t you glad your mother was pro-life?

My Mother made the choice to have me.

She made the choice when it was right with her, and her life. NOT YOURS

and you can be one liner Dennis all you want but you don’t answer the questions ever.

You can go and kill civilians and be ok with that, but to be responsible and support family planning you don’t have the moral strength to do.

Dennis,

Typical troll, when the facts and arguments are against you, go for a stupid statement.

The “pro-life” movement in this country has shown that it more about controlling female sexuality, than it is for caring about children and families. A vast majority of the “pro-life” organizations in this country have no policy stands on sex education beyond the moronic “abstinence only” and no stands on contraception. If their goal is truly a reduction of abortions, it would make sense to stop them prior to conception.

Scott,

Your right, the more young people understand the devastating consequences of unwed sex the more they will realize it’s not about controlling female sexuality but about improving society, decreasing the poverty rate and saving millions of babies from Abortion. This is the fruit of ‘abstinence’ education.

Tim, don’t you think it is silly to talk in terms of “devastating consequences of unwed sex” and “fruit of ‘abstinence’ education” considering that over half of those who do get married and have kids end up getting divorced? Those kids will still be around along with those that result from “unwed sex.”

It is far more realistic to empower young people by offering scientfically-based sex education including an emphasis on personal responsibility, birth control and STDs/STIs, and trusting that they will make the right choices as they explore their own sexualities. Heck, I don’t know that many young people that are fully cognizant of such weighty matters such as “controlling female sexuality … improving society, decreasing the poverty rate and saving millions of babies from Abortion.” Sheesh.

Abstinence is a fine and beautiful sentiment, but woefully naive considering human nature. Sex, wed or unwed, is not what “devistates” a society, willful ignorance does.

Lane,

Abstinence education does just that – it empowers young people by offering scientifically-based sex education including an emphasis on personal responsibility.

And yes, it also improves society to decrease the divorce rate by increase the education of the many benefits of marriage.

Alie,

If we know that human nature is flawed (Jeremiah 17:9) and in need of help, it makes no sense to give our children over to its devastating path that results in poverty and a reduced life expectancy.

Why not fight against human natures flawed ways and tell people the truth about the dangers of sex so they can be empowered with the education to control their natural desires to the betterment of themselves and their future babies? This is what abstinence education is all about.

Ignorance is to not even try and hope for something that does not exist, that human nature will make better decisions with less education.

“Abstinence education does just that – it empowers young people by offering scientifically-based sex education including an emphasis on personal responsibility.”

Lane, do you have a rebuttal to the fact that every credible study regarding abstinence education has shown that it doesn’t work?

Tim,
You try to speak authoritatively, but do so anonymously and without citation, rendering your points mere opinion. If you’re an expert, go on record. If you’re not… well, just keep on flapping your gums, if that’s what gets you off.

Peter -

My authority comes from the truth that I have been blessed with and is clearly evident by the hope that is in me. Thank you for recognizing it.

That’s right Tim and Dennis…bark for your masters!! BARK BARK BARK!! They have ordered you to speak!! If you please them they may throw you some scraps!!

The defunding of Planned Parenthood is wealth discrimination. Bachmann wants to hurt as many people as she can while she is in office. Show me one bill she has sponsored that would help the economy or bring jobs to her district.

Dan -

I would love to see a study showing how many lives are saved each year by how many Abortions never happen because of abstinence education.

Judging by the increase in abstinence education programs and the national decrease in abortion for many years now, a very case good could be made that abstinence education is scientifically a life saver – unless you don’t like the science.

Tim & Dennis

You furiously type & type & type…instead of facts, all we see is [anger] blah [hate] blah [idiocy] blah…

John –

Bachmann is not hurting anyone by stopping the PP taxpayer funding. There are many alternatives for the same services, without support for the illegal underage sex traffic industry that PP is part of.
http://www.liveaction.org/traffick

But feel free to donate all the money to want to continue funding PP.

Real jobs don’t come from government debt; they come from the creation of wealth, which comes from lower taxes, savings and higher productivity. By understand the truth source of jobs, you would realize that Bachmann is creating jobs and restoring the economy.

If Bachmann was wrong, Obama’s policies and trillions in debt would have already created millions of jobs. Look at reality and stop drinking the cool aid.

“Ignorance is to not even try and hope for something that does not exist, that human nature will make better decisions with less education.”

No. Willful ignorance is withholding all valuable information from people regarding sex education in the hopes that they will just blindly follow your directive.

“Bachmann is not hurting anyone by stopping the PP taxpayer funding. There are many alternatives for the same services, without support for the illegal underage sex traffic industry that PP is part of.”

This is patently false. PP notified the FBI about this person. PP also provides life-saving services such as STD screenings, cancer screenings, and pre-natal care to low income women…many who live in rural areas that are underserved. Stop spreading lies, please.

Also, if Bachmann were so concerned about reducing government spending and saving lives, hows about cutting some of that military budget that’s responsible for bombing brown people?

It would seem to me, Tim and Dennis, that the only people who refer to abortions as “free and easy” are the conservatives who are trying so hard to stop them. The people who are trying to PREVENT them do not think they are free nor easy…and certainly the people who have had to make these decisions don’t.

So easy to preach your morals…until it happens to your daughter.

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Tim,

Abortion rates have declined every year since Roe V Wade was legalized – yet they have, for the most part, flatlined for the last 10 years, which has been the hey-day of abstinence only education. Given the logic you’re using, doesn’t it seem that abstinence education is actually causing more abortions? There are a host of other issues at play (Poverty, lack of education, lack of health care), but the end result seems to be that the abortion rate is flatlining when as before it was dropping.

(Source: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html)

You asked how many lives are saved by people not having abortions. I’m assuming you’re referring to the fetuses that were not terminated. I wonder how many lives were saved by people having abortions – meaning that adults did not have to ruin their (and the child’s) lives by having an unwanted baby that they might not be able to afford, care for, etc. I know several women and couples who have had abortions, and none of them regret it. Their lives are all the better for the decisions they made.

Dan,

Perhaps you should consider another source,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/16/AR2008011603624.html

“The number of abortions performed in the United States dropped to 1.2 million in 2005 — the lowest level since 1976, according to a new report.

The number of abortions fell at least in part because the proportion of women ending their pregnancies with an abortion dropped 9 percent between 2000 and 2005″

As you can see, abstinence education has saved countless lives.

Tim

How can you say she is not hurting anyone by reducing social spending??? Tell that to the women that have been laid off and have no money for prenatal care! When will the cuts end?? After a veteran with PTSD walks into a crowded area and opens fire injuring many Americans because he/she couldn’t get the help they needed because of cuts to the VA???

What is the color of the kool-aid in your world??? Crack colored??

Keep on barking, your masters have ordered you to do so!!!

Tim,

I’m talking about overall trends and the big picture.

http://www.guttmacher.org/graphics/factsheets/2011/01/10/IB-induced-abortion-c1.gif

I would not dispute that abortions are at an all time low. But if you look at the study, abortions have flatlined since 2000/2001 (Your article even says so!). Why, after so many years of abortions dropping at a steady rate, did they suddenly flatline right at the time when abstinence only education received such a huge push in America? Why aren’t abortions dropping at a bigger rate if abstinence only education works?

Re: Dan’s 2:26 pm post, I think he is addressing Tim – not me.

Re: Tim’s 4:39 pm post, I do not see a direct correlation between abstinence education and the dropping number of abortions. I suspect there are other factors at play.

George Carlin hit it right on the head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kCyqBKewr4

Why do we not put any money into our nation, our people? We spend billions on overseas operations, not to mention the military. Exactly the point made by Mr. Carlin.
The problem lies in the difficulty to raise a child on a poverty line budget. But no, I understand, we should waste money protecting out interests in other countries. We need to protect them so we can send a factory there so things can be made cheap and toxic. And screw the poor sap that has a kid on the way that just lost his job. And finally what about his benefits that have been taken and forget his unemployment benies.

Maybe I am being extreme but this country seems to care less about trying to make itself better and more about the world. Good example of the BS of pro-life. We know better than you!

Dan
Comment posted February 24, 2011 @ 4:52 pm

The reason is there has been a greater awareness and access to services such as condoms, birth control, and the Plan B emergency contraceptive. Those all play a huge factor. Also the internet has helped many of us to understand our options.

That whole thing about bearing false witness has a lot if provisos and caveats, apparently. In cases like those above, it’s called “Lying for Jesus.”

Way to go, Tim! Keep it up!

FACTS are an inconvenient thing for Bachmann — she made up another whopper last year when she wrongfully claimed that Obama’s trip to India was costing taxpayers $250 million /day.

And of course there was the whopper about who freed the slaves too!

Michele has learned that you can persuade the ignorant if you just keep on telling the same lies over and over again. It works well on the types with tinfoil hats trimmed with tea bags.

“emergency contraception” i.e. “the morning after pill” is abortion. Facts are facts. Jon can’t have his own facts.

nospam – nope, try again. The morning after pill either delays ovulation or prevents an egg from implanting, thus preventing conception. It works exactly the way a birth control pill does, because that is exactly what it is. It is not an aborificant like RU486.

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can’t be found

Every sperm is wanted
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

-Monte Python

rmath, it’s not Bachmann’s supporters who elected an alcoholic, clinically-depressed mental defective to be their governor. You did.

I have it on good authority that at least she isn’t prescribed daily doses of psychotropics to get through the day.

to say mental defective would be dishonest given the utter lack of evidence.

..and yet to some Trolls, an alcoholic mental defective is okay if he’s a Rethuglican (do i really have to identify the exact one to be clear?).

Phony hypocrites, try ag.

…try again.

What does this article have to do with Dayton’s depression diagnosis?

Yes, we should be commenting on people that are genuinely mentally defective, as the Daily Show has.

Sorry, I fell for the obfuscation.

Alie,

Preventing implantation of a fertilized egg is abortion. Plan B, and others do just that.

“Emergency contraception is also thought to thin the lining of the uterus, or endometrium. The thickened endometrium is where a fertilized egg would normally implant and grow.”

Abortion is termination of a pregnancy. Prevention of the implantation of a fertilized egg is not an abortion because it has not implanted to the wall of a uterus to become a zygote, which, had the egg implanted, is the clinical term of pregnancy. Thus…not an abortion.

Alie, you win the definition contest ( I will not bring up the arguments between the clinical , physical, and chemical beginnings or pregnancy). However,let us not forget that in either case a living human organism was killed (not allowed to implant and shoved out of the uterus) . But again, you win.

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