Bachmann: Wisconsin Republicans are like Lincoln, Reagan

Until they are recalled. WI is gonna be as blue as the sky.

FWIW.

http://vodpod.com/watch/5648514-ronald-reagan-says-being-in-a-union-is-a-basic-right

Egad! Bachmann redefines the meaning of dumb. In fact, calling her stupid is a denigration of truly stupid people. We need to find a new category of clueless. Maybe XTUPID?

I know, how about “Pickwick?” That sounds pretty stupid.

Ronald Reagan was actually referring to trade unions, you know, people who are actually engaged in productive work, not government employees, whose only function seems to be to cost the taxpayers money.

Agreed – Michele Bachmann is out of touch with reality and history – but us calling her stupid is not going to change the fact that she keeps getting elected and that she gives a voice to people who whole-heartedly agree with her and fund her campaigns. I appreciate all reporting that calls her out on the facts – so thank you MNIndy for that. I’d like to see more people take her seriously – because the money backing her is very serious regardless of how accurate she might be. Does anyone in her district know who might be willing to run against her next time around?

@Dennis – could you please clarify your definition of “government employees”?

People who work in government who also are union members.

In fact, some southern republican congressmen still refer to the Civil War and ‘the war of northern aggression.’ So can someone tell me, which historical side the tea party supports, the north or south?

I think Abe Lincoln would find Michele’s use of his good name despicable in this situation. And Reagan would increase our budget deficit with a side order of increased government spending. Apparently facts aren’t central to an Oral Roberts University education.

Fiction still trumps facts for the mystics and fundamentalists. Nothing new.

Praise Jebus, God hates the Truth, Amen.

This woman is off her rocker. Comparing workers fighting to preserve their collective bargaining rights to “Lincoln fought the Confederacy” is downright ludicrous. For one, Lincoln never fought the “Confederacy.” He never acknowledged it as a legitimate government in any way, manner or form; he fought “rebels” engaged in insurrection. Second, our Wisconsin brethren are not armed rebels; they are peaceful protesters.

It’s obvious that by invoking the names of Lincoln and Reagan while praising Scott Walker she’s saying that they all courageously fought against the forces of evil.

@ Dennis the only force of evil is the oppression and backarsed way of thinking that is going on right now on the Right side.

Lets take away all bargaining abilities from the people who do the work.

Lets not pay people equally for equal work done.

Lets for people to support a faith they don’t believe in

Lets not care for the sick and poor

The moral decay of the religious tea party zealot right is what got us into our financial decay and will be doom of our country that was based on the opposite of all that I have stated above and more.

Dennis – What kind of work do you do? What does it do for the good of the country and the economy?

“I’m just observing our neighbors to the east over there and having a laugh,” Bachmann said.

Sure, it’s a real laugh riot when people who have done their jobs are forced to eat an 11% pay cut plus loss of basic rights as American workers to negotiate with their employer over conditions of work. Michele’s delight, no doubt.

Will she accept an 11% cut in her public-source income – farm subsidies, health clinic subsidies, foster care subsidies, congressional compensation and perquisites? How funny will that be? Will Michele still be laughing?

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Didn’t Lincoln jump out of a window to break quorum in the Illinois legislature once? Get your facts straight, lady.

Dennis – What kind of work do you do?

His life’s work began when this website was born. It is making idiotic comments here.

I’ve been asking my rightwing friends where they would like to see the US in 10, 20 or 30 years? Where do they see the elderly, should the all be working at Wal-Mart? Take thier final breath as they push a shopping cart toward an arriving shopper? What wage do they see as “fair” $5, $10 maybe $15? What about health care? At 5 bucks an hour what can we afford? Shall we have the our children out on the street begging. That would keep them out of the schools that they don’t want to fund, but really, seriously where do they want to take this country?

Right wing stupidity will be the end of us all. For the record, Ronald Reagan was Satan. If there was any justice the last four republican Presidents would have been impeached, and Reagan and Bush II hung for treason.

Good question.What Do you do for a living Dennis?

Now there’s an idiotic comment.

If Bachmann said it was sunny and clear, I’d grab an umbrella.

There she goes, talking out of heranus again.

Maybe Ms. Bachman could take a 8% pay cut, freeze her wage, make her pay 50% of her health benefits and do away with her pension! Then she could volunteer to be a teacher in Wisconsin, she could save Gov. Brown a lot of Money!

Plan B would be to have the woman in Minneapolis put her in a box and mail her to Mexico!

From the two-faced files of Republican principles:

“They [the Soviet Polish government] have made it clear that they never had any intention of restoring one of the most elemental human rights—the right to belong to a free trade union.”
Ronald Reagan October 9, 1982

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=43110

Lincoln and Reagan would be considered socialists by today’s GOP standards.

“One month before signing the Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln sent a long message to Congress which was largely routine, but also proposed controversial measures such as voluntary colonization of slaves and compensated emancipation.

Lincoln devoted so much attention to preparing the message that his friend David Davis said, “Mr. Lincoln’s whole soul is absorbed in his plan of remunerative emancipation.” The concluding paragraphs shown below demonstrate Lincoln’s passion for this plan and contain some of the most famous statements he ever wrote. Composer Aaron Copeland used excerpts in his evocative “Lincoln Portrait.”

I do not forget the gravity which should characterize a paper addressed to the Congress of the nation by the Chief Magistrate of the nation. Nor do I forget that some of you are my seniors, nor that many of you have more experience than I, in the conduct of public affairs. Yet I trust that in view of the great responsibility resting upon me, you will perceive no want of respect yourselves, in any undue earnestness I may seem to display.

Is it doubted, then, that the plan I propose, if adopted, would shorten the war, and thus lessen its expenditure of money and of blood? Is it doubted that it would restore the national authority and national prosperity, and perpetuate both indefinitely? Is it doubted that we here–Congress and Executive–can secure its adoption? Will not the good people respond to a united, and earnest appeal from us? Can we, can they, by any other means, so certainly, or so speedily, assure these vital objects? We can succeed only by concert. It is not “can any of us imagine better?” but, “can we all do better?” The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise — with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.

Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation. We say we are for the Union. The world will not forget that we say this. We know how to save the Union. The world knows we do know how to save it. We — even we here — hold the power, and bear the responsibility. In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free — honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just — a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.”

Annual Message to Congress — Concluding Remarks

What a big-spending liberal he was.

The GOP needs it’s saints to worship and rally the faithful around. It is more effective than the scholarship, statesmanship, and patriotism of their distant predecessors.

Sorry for the length, but I thought it bore repeating in it’s entirety. We seem to be facing another Civil War. One again fought, at least initially, in the political theater.

Once again, it is the Union (aka “nanny state”) and it’s desire for a strong economy vs the Confederacy (aka “Dominionist Corporatocracy”) and it’s desire for anarchy, cheap labor, and pollution.

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